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    One Science Cabarat show later (I played the swedish chef, yay!) , I returns to the forums in full

    I can sort of see where you're coming from with Hogfather, but I loved it for being a character showcase; Susan and Death were the mains obviously, but it always felt like a real Ankh Morpork story to me, even more than the Watch books. It made a halfway decent adaptation too, and the damn Wooden Horse scene melts my heart something fierce. But yeah, it was ony upon the second reread that I understood the plot of the Auditors-first time, I thought they were literally stopping the sun from rising. That'd certainly have raised the stakes, but the real way has the thematic weight of Imagination, as you said.
    Which Death book is your favourite then?
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    Happy Birthday ?
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    I guess you could put it like that, yeah. Still good, but when you can still remember the raw emotion fom the series finest moments, you want it to remain at that exact peak forever. Makes it harder to appreciate the books for what they are.

    For non Discworld, I'd honestly suggest you skipping "Dark side of the sun". Makes sure you get the rewrite of Carpet People (a joint project between Terry Pratchett and Terry Pratchett, Aged 18 and 48 lol). Strata is a cute curiosity, the Bromeliad is good fun, Nation is great, the first Johnny Maxwell is really poignant, its sequel just okay, haven't read the third. Good Omens is an absolute blast.
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    As for pratchetts newer stuff; my to-do list still includes I shall Wear Midnight, Snuff, the last two Moist von Lipvig books, and Science of Discworld IV within the discworld universe, so I'm hardly up to date. Outside of it, I have yet to read the Long Earth series.

    I found Nation great, and Unseen Acedemicals enjoyable, and not like I dislike Thud, Postal or Wintersmith, they're all fine books...but in terms of personal preference I just feel the stories are sligthly inferior to their predecessors, because eventually some character beats and themes do get repeated. I think I've judged the later books more harshly based on the accumulated weight of past Discworld stories; but of course, reading them "out of order" you wouldn't have had that problem.

    As for badass moments...have you read the Fifth Elephant? Monstrous Regiment also has a character of Vimes-levels of badassery.
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    Maskerade is more a Phantom of an Opera than an "Opera in general" parody if memory serves, so I got a good kick out of it. The villain was pretty weak though, and I always preferred Magrat to Agnes Nitt. I remember it making more use of the "Weatherwax in the big city!" potential for jokes than Equal Rites did.

    Feet of Clay I like. Lots of good stuff with Nobby and Colon, and the whole watch in general. Its not the greatest case Vimes ever solved, but the Golems, as a concept and characters, hit home for me.
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    And the reason I brought up Angua wasn't to infer she was a moutpiece for preaching or anything, just that she represents the first instance I can remember of Pratchetts loooooong pro-womens rights streak. But for that, just you wait until Monstrous regiment. Another standalone, and another complete homerun.

    Are you planning on tackling the Science of Discworld too?
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    I'm currently going through Dodger. Its an enjoyable read to be sure, but you can sadly see the difference from Pratchetts earlier writings. Single sentences that fill 1/3rd of the page, repetions, and massive monologues/inner monologues intercutting the action. Still fun though, but of his "real world" stories, Nation is much superior (also highly recommended).

    Now that you mention it, I remember very little about Interesting Times, apart from the Silver Horde being fun. But its an interesting contrast to the opening discworld duology; Madcap adventure vs a more grounded, focused fantasy.
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    But yeah. West Wing is fantastic the first four seasons, then it drops quite abit after that. There's good stuff within the last 3 seasons that gets it rerun when I do my annual marathon, but... its just not as strong and makes a lot less sense. Josh, Donna, Leo and Jed are the only ones that get really solid stuff the last two seasons, everyone else was just sort of... there.

    Anyway, Toby's last arc is awful, and it ONLY works if he's covering for someone else. And while the showrunners clearly intended it to be CJ at the end of season 6, that just doesn't quite fit.. because she wouldn't have let Toby go to jail for her and her reaction was too wrong. But... if the leak was Bartlett? (Or his order anyway_) That changes a few things about their final conversation and Jed's thinking it over in the last episode. Only way it works for me in any event.... while the campaign stuff was good they really flubbed basically all the Whitehouse stuff in the last season.
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    You might want to try Sorkin's Sports Night, or The Newsroom. They're similar in flavor to West Wing, but not.

    Well, Sports Night is more a comedy.

    Don't bother with Studio 60 unless you're just absolutely in love with Sorkin's style.
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    Soul Music: My first ever Discworld book! And as such, possibly #1 on my list of "most deserving of a reread". Even now though, I can imagine imagine it carrying so much more weight, knowing Deaths backstory. I mean, isn't this the first time ever he had to kill people he knew? His own family no less! No wonder he went on a quest to Forget. And yeah, the idea of "the greatest songs will be the ones he never wrote" going-out-on-top was quite possibly what reeled me in to the series. I mean, its not the most complex thing ever, but as a 13ish year old kid I felt like I read something "deep".
    Really, I blame Pratchett for having so damn high standards concerning fiction, and expecting stuff to actually poke my intellect a little.
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