Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread

[TheSonofBattles]

So yea, title should be enough to explain the basic premise of this here thread. I have a few theories I wanted to put out there, discuss and whatnot, and I didn't want to make a new thread for each or clutter up an existing one or anything.

By the way, I picked this subforum for two reasons. (1) I'm lazy, and this is the only subforum I really visit on an any way regular basis and to a lesser extent (2) because this thread could involve some theories that discuss events the anime hasn't touched on yet and I don't want to spoiler people unnessecairily. Maybe it should be moved to General, which if this is the case the mods know what to do I'm sure.

Anyways, to the point:

1.) Coby and Helmeppo will face off against Luffy and Zoro respectively at some point near the end of the series, if not the end.

The Luffy/Coby one has been suggested loads of times before, so isn't to interesting in and of itself, but I also reckon Helmeppo will face down Zoro. I'm not exactly sure why I do reckon it, its basically a gut feeling, and I was gonna put in some stuff here about how they'd be good opponents due to such and such, but it'd be a lie. I reckon they'll face off simply because I do. No real concrete reason beyond them being introduced at roughly the same time.

2.) Zoro will defeat Mihawk several arcs prior to the end of the series, and claim the title of Worlds Greatest. Having done this he will in the next arc need to defend his title against one of a few possible contenders. Tashigi would be most obvious in this regard, but I have another theory that could invalide it that I'll discuss below.

3.) This one is tough to explain, but basically I think that for some crew members after they've achieved their dream, they'll also have a duty to their dream as it were that they'll perform.

For example, I think once Zoro has become worlds greatest swordsman, he'll go through another arc where he defends his title against someone, then like Mihawk, he'll inspire said person to surpass him, to become the greatest even after suffering defeat at Zoro's hands.

Now I believe this will be Tashigi, and that both this and theory 2 will occur at the same time, but I'm writing this in a seperate theory becuase I also believe Luffy will have a duty in this regard, and that duty will be to pass on the dream to become Pirate King. Not nessecarily to anyone in particular, though this could of course happen, but to pass it on as a dream to the world at large by some action of his. The most obvious action would be one some people have espoused before - to copy Roger and smile on the execution stand and say something about Raftel.

Now personally I do subscribe to the theory that Luffy dies in the end, but not really for any good reason. Only because I think it'd be cool, and great storytelling. So I don't think he nessecairly has to pass it on by dying.

Other crew members, future and present may have a duty to, but you get the idea so I'll leave it at that.

4.) Shortly after the current arc is over, and the Strawhat crew are in one of their shorter rest arcs someone from the Marines will appear and offer Luffy a place in the Shichibukai. May not happen after this arc, but I am more positive that it'll happen at some point than I am about any other theory to be honest.

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. So...yea, go ahead, add your own or discuss those already here.

[KuMaJeff]

These are actually some very interesting theories but I highly doubt that Zoro will defeat Mihawk a few arcs prior to the end, nor will he get his own arc defending his title. If he were already at that level a few arcs prior to the end, there wouldn't be much point to the last remaining arcs since Zoro is already one of the powers strong enough to strike fear into anyone with just a mere name. Luffy who would be stronger than this World's Greatest Swordsman might as well be up there with the strongest too.

[Spaceman-Spiff]

I actually don't mind if one of the characters get killed off at the end, as long as their dream has been fulfilled, and die an honorable death. I give kudos to authors who dare to kill off main/important characters (appropriately).

Now, to answer your points.
1. Luffy vs Koby might happen one day, but I don't think Koby and Helmeppo will ever catch up with Luffy and Zoro. Probably in the future Koby will have to face a decision whether to catch/arrest Luffy or betray the government and help him out. Maybe this will happen when they finally arrest Luffy and about to execute him.

2. Also don't think Tashigi can ever catch up with Zoro, but there might be a face-off anyway between the two of them.

Note: maybe those characters above can catch up with Luffy/Zoro if they eat some devil fruits.


A question that I've been having in my mind lately ever since I read some entries on Wikipedia is will Zoro ever fight Shanks before/after Mihawk fight. Too bad he lost his arm, maybe we'll never see Shanks doing swordfight anymore...

[Porter]

Originally Posted by TheSonofBattles

1.) Coby and Helmeppo will face off against Luffy and Zoro respectively at some point near the end of the series, if not the end.

Just yesterday I had another theory about Corby:
The Buster Call is approaching, and as we know a Buster Call needs 5 vice admirals. Now Corby is under the command of a vice admiral, I think Garp is his name (but that might be just the case in the german manga...). So I think they might meet again during this arc. So Corby could see how strong Ruffy has become by now.
Well, the next few chapters will show if I'm right or wrong.
That what I like about this theory: I don't have to wait to long, to see it proved or declined.

[hampr03]

lots of questions cocern me

what will happen when sanji finds all blue?
is he going to cook all the fish he finds?

what will Nami do after she draws a complete map?
will she sell the maps?

will usopp ever encounter his own father?

what will robin do after she finds the true history?

[captain sogeking]

I like your zoro idea because it could open up a whole lot of possiblities like a swordsman who was in the same situation as zoro who trained his whole life to defeat mihawk only to see that he was defeated already by some unknown (zoro) and now tries to defeat zoro

[Kakaliaha]

Originally Posted by captain sogeking

I like your zoro idea because it could open up a whole lot of possiblities like a swordsman who was in the same situation as zoro who trained his whole life to defeat mihawk only to see that he was defeated already by some unknown (zoro) and now tries to defeat zoro

By the time Zoro gains enough skill to defeat Mihawk, he will be far from unknown, I mean he already has a 60,000,000 beri bounty on his head.

[Caracal]

Personally I like the idea of Luffy and Zoro fighting Koby and Helmeppo. I also liek the idea of Zoro getting the title of world's strongest swordsman and having to defend it for an arc to two. On a simular note I'd also like to see Luffy meet up with Shanks before the end of the series, say at the half way point. Luffy offers to give him the hat back, but Shanks refuses it saying Luffy hasn't quite fullfilled his promise yet, and leaves saying next time they meet he'll take it back.

[Random Marine]

Seeing Coby, Helmeppo & Garp among the crew of the buster call would be an interesting situation, depending on if the mini arcs actually will link together in some way. On one hand, we would be able to see the result of all the training that they've been doing since their fight with the vice admiral, plus we could see if they've actually been promoted from being choreboys yet. However, I think all that will happen is that Coby and Luffy would just get a passing glance at each other while the SH/FF/Galley-La are escaping, or at least that's a possibility.

Personally, I think that Morgan will somehow eventually come back into the picture, and that he and, ironically, Helmeppo will square off. Luffy vs. Coby has a strong chance of occurring, but Zoro vs. Helmeppo just doesn't sound like it even has a remote possibility of happening to me. If anything, Zoro Vs. Tashigi needs to happen before he fights Mihawk. Sort of a last test to see if Zoro is mentally ready to attempt to not only face, but surpass Mihawk. What better way to do so then to fight someone who's inadvertantly haunting your past and present?

[TheSonofBattles]

Originally Posted by Random Marine

Personally, I think that Morgan will somehow eventually come back into the picture, and that he and, ironically, Helmeppo will square off.

I like the sound of this one actually. Though Morgan never seemed that strong a guy really at the end of the day. Now this isn't to say he can't become a much stronger opponent, but he also didn't seem like the type who was willing to push himself much further than he already had since it had already gotten him so far.

Originally Posted by Random Marine

Luffy vs. Coby has a strong chance of occurring, but Zoro vs. Helmeppo just doesn't sound like it even has a remote possibility of happening to me. If anything, Zoro Vs. Tashigi needs to happen before he fights Mihawk. Sort of a last test to see if Zoro is mentally ready to attempt to not only face, but surpass Mihawk. What better way to do so then to fight someone who's inadvertantly haunting your past and present?

I honestly don't see how this would help prepare him in any way. I mean he's already shown he's willing to fight her, and can best her. Easily at that. He didn't defeat her as badly as Mihawk did him, but it wasn't far off it either.

Originally Posted by KuMaJeff

I highly doubt that Zoro will defeat Mihawk a few arcs prior to the end, nor will he get his own arc defending his title. If he were already at that level a few arcs prior to the end, there wouldn't be much point to the last remaining arcs since Zoro is already one of the powers strong enough to strike fear into anyone with just a mere name.

Why not? I mean the whole crew will be known and feared at this point. And its not like I said he'd get a whole arc to himself, only that the enemy he'd face that arc would be someone challenging him for the title of Worlds Greatest. Probably Tashigi, while Luffy fights Smoker, and Robin fights Hina etc.

Though the opponents won't nessecairily be them of course.

[Leaf Cable]

I like the idea of Luffy being offered a place in the Shichibukai. Wasn't that a possibility pointed out in an earlier arc? I can't remember!
And speaking of the Shichibukai, wouldn't it be weird if Captain Kuro filled Sir Crocodile's position? For that matter, is his reputation as fierce as Crocodile's?
And here's a question for you guys: what if there ends up being an Impel Down Arc? As Kokoro said, "Things are getting interesting". With the CP9 out and Enies Lobby destroyed by the Buster Call, I'd say the World Government will have to worry about the world's largest prison break ever!

[Myoti]

I could see some of those happening (definetly the one about offering Luffy a Shichibukai position).

Also, I'm pretty darn sure that Buggy's crew and the Strawhats will face off again (possibly with more past villains joining Buggy).

And I'm really hoping the final battle is against Shanks' crew (not in a malicious way; just that Luffy said he could beat them, so they'll end up proving themselves and such in the end, possibly at Raftel).

[Kokolores]

my opinion:
no to all theories of matchups between the SH and all those weaklings they met before. Coby being reintroduced would be quite good, but not a real fight against him or Helmeppo. There just isn't enough time for them to catch up with the SH. this isn't DB where the story goes on for years. if I remember correctly Luffy hasn't been sailing for two months yet, so how could the likes of Coby have caught up with them. The only way that might happen is if there were some kind of epilogue where years have passed. Tashgi is a different matter she has to meet up with Zoro again and most likely she'll fight him but somehow I've got the feeling her and Smoker's sense of justice is too different from the one of the WG and the marine command.
Another no to Luffy even being offered a place among the Shichibukai, not that he'd ever take it. After all he just destroyed Enies Lobby and burned the flag of the WG and somehow I doubt those are the qualities the WG looks for in prospective members of the Shichibukai.

my theories:
- Smoker and Tashgi will take up the trail of the SH again at the Marine HQ where the next main ark will take place. Also, they'll find their last member the ships musician
-there will be a clean up among the WG and the Marines at the end which will put an end to things like the BC. Most likely Aokiji's faction among which I count Smoker and Hina will start it.

[Eudaemonium]

The cover arcs do link into the main story, Buggy's i a good example as in it he gets his body-parts back and meets up with Alvida, they later appear in Loguetown in the main story.

i think the prospect of Luffy being asked to be a Shichibukai is intriguing, of course he'll say no, but it makes sense. I mena he's clearly going to be known as avery very dangerous pirate (as no-doubt other Shichibukai were). The point is that the Shichibukai are amongst the baddest and well-known pirates in the OP world - this is why they are recruited, as a deterrent. This is also why Blackbeard needs to become famous (defeat a 100,000,000 plus pirate) in order to be considered for the position.

I was reading the early volumes yesterday, and I like that in Zoro's flashback he and Kuina are going to figth each-other for the strongest swordsman title one day. This made me wonder if his final final battle will be against Tashigi. It makes sense to me.

[DarkShinobi]

Some of my One Piece theories...

-Like almost all of Usopp's lies, there really is an Island of Snipers.
-Luffy probably knows Dragon. Why else would Oda not let Luffy see him in chapter 100?
-There's another story to Luffy's past, a much more tragic one. Evidenced by Luffy not caring about people's pasts, Luffy freaking out when Aokiji mentioned his grandfather, Luffy most likely knowing Dragon, and also if we can find out that Luffy has a brother, almost out of nowhere, there's got to be a lot of other things he's keeping from the crew.

[Rixile, Ketchup King]

I can see Coby showing up at the end of Enies Lobby. Makes a lot of sense...

The Shichibukai thing is almost guaranteed, seeing how strong luffy is. We all know he'll turn it down though

Smoker and Tashigi better show up in the next arc, dammit. Especially if the crew winds up going to Impel Down.

[AWB]

Hatchi now resides on Gyojin Island and will appear in the next arc.

He has to have received his own cover arc for a reason.

[ultimateclima]

along with my signature,
i believe that Zoro will fight Mihawk while Luffy and the others fight Blackbeard and his crew. This could happen since it looks like there's no swordmen in Blackbeard's crew

[jlo81]

Originally Posted by ultimateclima

along with my signature,
i believe that Zoro will fight Mihawk while Luffy and the others fight Blackbeard and his crew. This could happen since it looks like there's no swordmen in Blackbeard's crew

that's also my take on it...
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Originally Posted by ultimateclima

along with my signature,
i believe that Zoro will fight Mihawk while Luffy and the others fight Blackbeard and his crew. This could happen since it looks like there's no swordmen in Blackbeard's crew

I think that too...

but I don't think that Mihawk will join BlackBeard...

If BB-crew is really the last opponent... then Zoro should seperate from the crew to dace Mihawk why the others fight the rest