General Blackbeard Thread

[Gliblord]

There is no vice-captain in the strawhat crew. If people listen to Zoro, it's because he is right or because they didn't think about anything else to do, and not because he is the freaking vice-captain.

Quoted for great truth.

[AppleSauce]

If Oda intended Zoro to be viewed as the first mate, then why is Zoro never called that in the introduction pages of the tankobon? It always says "Luffy - Captain", "Zoro - COMBATANT". If Oda wants Zoro to be first mate why doesn't it say "Zoro - First Mate"?

If Oda didn't Write this in his manga than i don't know who did.


Stephen's Script

Urouge: A second-in-command worth 120 million.
He doesn't look like the type to follow another man...
That tells you something about his captain...

http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen...chapter499.txt

[Mr. Sandman]

If Oda intended Zoro to be viewed as the first mate, then why is Zoro never called that in the introduction pages of the tankobon? It always says "Luffy - Captain", "Zoro - COMBATANT". If Oda wants Zoro to be first mate why doesn't it say "Zoro - First Mate"?

Quoted for great truth.

Quoted for greater ignorance.

See ApplSauce's post.

I swear, if Oda doesn't write it on the wall then some people will feel the need to claim it as false....

[SuperSonic-Strawhat]

Well... If we can agree on anything... it's that Urouge was born with the perfect smile.

[triforcebih]

Well... If we can agree on anything... it's that Urouge was born with the perfect smile.

And Bonney is hot. And yeah, she got boob(all)s since she kicked BB.

[Mr. Sandman]

Well... If we can agree on anything... it's that Urouge was born with the perfect smile.

And Bonney is hot. And yeah, she got boob(all)s since she kicked BB.

Don't forget Hawkins' wicked eyebrows. But I digress.

I think we can put the debate to rest since Urouge is never wrong. (the Urouge in OP, not the mod).

[SuperSonic-Strawhat]

Don't forget Hawkins' wicked eyebrows. But I digress.

I think we can put the debate to rest since Urouge is never wrong. (the Urouge in OP, not the mod).

We can but I doubt anyone actually will.

Despite that, Apoo for president.

[Gamabounta]

If Oda intended Zoro to be viewed as the first mate, then why is Zoro never called that in the introduction pages of the tankobon? It always says "Luffy - Captain", "Zoro - COMBATANT". If Oda wants Zoro to be first mate why doesn't it say "Zoro - First Mate"?

Simply because you do not become first mate by joining first. It's a relation of trust, being reliable, and other things.

Back when Luffy fougth against Ussop at W7, if any other character would have said Zoro line to Luffy it wouldn't have the same impact on me.


EDIT

That, and stephen's quote from AppleSauce xD.

[Zkaiser]

[Sonic Youth]

This debate is over, Zoro is first mate.

[Mr. Sandman]

This debate is over, Zoro is first mate.

Awww, but I really wanted to read their rebuttals....

[looking_at_you]

We need a new question when making a new account
is Zoro the first mate of the crew?
people who type no can't make a account lol.

[Monkey D]

This debate is over, Zoro is first mate.

Why because someone, who knows nothing about the crew, said he was the second in power just because of his bounty ? If we go this way, Zorro is not the first mate, but the captain :

[No Maam]

God the early scans are awkward.

[AppleSauce]

Why because someone, who knows nothing about the crew, said he was the second in power just because of his bounty ? If we go this way, Zorro is not the first mate, but the captain :

http://i20.mangareader.net/one-piece...iece-57384.jpg

Oh and There's more



And another



Ok than now Zoro is the Captain of the Mugiwara pirate crew....


Edit:

Seriously though am done Talking about zoro in the BlackBeard Thread any further disagreements about Zoro's Second in command position and i will consider it trolling and you will not hear from me unless its in the proper thread.

[Bulletproof]

Oh and There's more

http://i17.mangareader.net/one-piece...ce-1692791.jpg

And another

http://i6.mangareader.net/one-piece/...ce-1694175.jpg

Ok than now Zoro is the Captain of the Mugiwara pirate crew....

In none of those imagens they did in fact stated that he was the captain. Also we could believe that Oda can use other people speechs as indication, of course it's not a hundred percent sure, but we can.
It's worth to mention that Luffy's being the captain is something we know FER SURE and it wasn't never stated he wasn't so we could believe Zoro is indeed the first mate as long as someone on the crew clearly states he isn't. We can speculate because it wasn't denied yet.
Anyway, if we were to pick one of them to be first mate who would you think that'd act more like that? Zoro.

[AppleSauce]

In none of those imagens they did in fact stated that he was the captain. Also we could believe that Oda can use other people speechs as indication, of course it's not a hundred percent sure, but we can.
It's worth to mention that Luffy's being the captain is something we know FER SURE and it wasn't never stated he wasn't so we could believe Zoro is indeed the first mate as long as someone on the crew clearly states he isn't. We can speculate because it wasn't denied yet.
Anyway, if we were to pick one of them to be first mate who would you think that'd act more like that? Zoro.

You should really read what Urouge Said

Urouge: A second-in-command worth 120 million.
He doesn't look like the type to follow another man...
That tells you something about his captain...

So far Everyone who has Seen Zoro For the First time Know and get the impression that he's a man Who will follow no one, And Can be a captain.

We have been watching him since chapter 3.... if people in the OP world who have gotten only a few panels worth of screen time know Zoro's Rank why don't you.

Why in the world would Oda have one of his characters say something like Zoro' is the Second in command when he isn't.


Imagine Sanji or any other Strawhat being in the Situation Zoro was in at The moment Urouge Said that, it wouldnt make sense...

Oda has clearly Established Zoro's positon as Second in command by having one of his Character state that Fact for us...

[Bulletproof]

And that's pretty much what I said... I just also pointed out that it isn't set in stone yet.

[Gladiator777]

Zoro is the VC, but its not official within the Crew.

[Mr. Sandman]

No more of this you guys. The traits are clearly present. We don't need confirmation from Oda. Zoro=first mate and now we are moving on. Hear me?

Moving. On.