Shichibukai Discussion Thread

[Impel Down]

Luffy's about to reach Raftel.

Usopp kills him at the last second and sets off bombs all over the ship, killing all other crew members, becoming the Pirate King.


And an era of darkness spreads across the world for hundreds of years.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

What is your point again? In either of theese cases its not clear that the person Luffy did not fight is stronger then someone else.


If Luffy beats Whitebeard (or if BB beats WB first and Luffy then beats BB) thats pretty much it. He just defeated the strongest man in the world and took his title.

Imo there is really no point in proveing his strenght against anyone else, because untill they prove their strenght against the strongest I will allways consider them to be weaker.

But on his way to WB and BB he must kick some asses.or this manga would be pretty lame...just travelling and at the end he will fight the strongest

........my point is that the villain will be more powerful than any other villain before ,when luffy kicks his ass after a development of his fightingstyle\strenght whatever----
so oda shows us that he is ON HIS WAY to beat the strongest and why should luffy fight again BB and after that against kuma...so if we`re right BB is much more the stronger villain...and after beating BB it would be pretty lame if after this luffy will fight kuma ...

new villains must be a new task for the protagonist and often that is the reason why the next villain must be stronger ...


I don`t want to rip your imagination of the storydevelopment or a character in the manga...but so far it was in any manga or also in any adventure-story i read that the latest villains were the more powerful...
maybe kuma is stronger than an admiral but we will never know and our only chance to judge about a powerlevel is how luffy fights against each of that villain....
and cause of luffy`s development his later villains must also be stronger cause he needs a longer time to knock them out than before ,where he had a certain development..(in wapol,foxy-case luffy hadn`t any development and they were anyway funnyarcvillains....so no real match for his way to be the PK)
in that case i doesn`t say he has to fight anyone but the strongest he had to go for..................

[VL7]

So what do you call Bellamy, funnyarcvillian?

[Gorlom]

Look Don, I'm not argueing with that later oponent is stronger theory you have there (even though it needs some revision because of Enel).
I'm saying that the fight with Aokiji is not set in stone. Nor is really the outcome of the battle with Kuma. So even following the rule that an oponent Luffy faces later on will be stronger Aokiji is not "Obviously stronger" unless Luffy acctually faces and beat both of them one on one in the correct order.


Since we do not know for sure this is what will happen I do not belive you can compare them in that way.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

iam fine with that gorlom....

but iam really interested in seeing which power kuma really can show us

i find it amazing to see how each villain is intresting in which abilitys he can show us ....at this time other big villains just kidding around with the first opponents and show later the real power they have when they see that they could lose

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

which are the two types of a shichibukai...
why is mihawk a nemesis..i mean they had a draw as far as i can remember... and kuma won`t be the strongest....

[Kma]

Hey so I was reading the 46 Volume scanlation by NULL and in the introductory pages with the character descriptions of Blackbeard, here is what it says:

Pillager of the Drum Kingdom, plans to rise to the top. Goal is to replace the TOP member of the Shichibukai!?

I thought that was kind of intriguing. I would imagine either the unknown schichibukai or Mihawak to be the strongest, but perhaps this was just a mistranslation? but if its not, does he have a grudge with one of them?

[Kaze no Barako]

which are the two types of a shichibukai...
why is mihawk a nemesis..i mean they had a draw as far as i can remember...

Yeah, and Mihawk even partied with Shanks, you didn't see Luffy and Arlong boozin' it up, lmao. >__>; There's a big difference between 'rival' and 'nemesis'.

[Impel Down]

Just because they're rivals doesn't mean there isn't some friction between them. Mihawk still seems to do his duty as a Shichibukai, somewhat, in killing pirates when he went around destroying Krieg's crew. Sure, he did it because "he was bored", but he seemed to choose to take down a pirate crew at random.

[DesertSpada]

Hmm.....so Kuma's fruit is probably a Paramecia. However, it's so different that it makes me doubt that a little. I know it can't be Zoan or Logia, but this one is really different fora Paramecia.

[Gorlom]

how so? what makes it so different from say mr 5? or perhaps foxy depending on how the power really works.

[Hiro XD]

Hmm.....so Kuma's fruit is probably a Paramecia. However, it's so different that it makes me doubt that a little. I know it can't be Zoan or Logia, but this one is really different fora Paramecia.

How can it be diffrent from a Paramecia? You have body inhancement (the paws on his hands) which is enough to prove its Paramecia- is it not? He belongs in the group that doesn't chance 'form' like Foxy and Mr.5.

[Vanessa]

Mr. 5 himself was a bomb, he just didn't really use his own body that much. Against Ms. Monday Mr. 5 clotheslined her and exploded. Otherwise you've got the right idea.

[DesertSpada]

Foxy and Mr. 5 are a good representation. With that, it solves it for me. I was thinking something else.

[Hiro XD]

Well witht hat solved there is still one thing that bugs me about Tyrant-boy here. I don't know if this have been answered or discussed about already but...

Why does Kuma ask where would one like to go on vacation?

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

Mr. 5 himself was a bomb, he just didn't really use his own body that much. Against Ms. Monday Mr. 5 clotheslined her and exploded. Otherwise you've got the right idea.

Mr. 5 made his shoe explode when he was fighting Vivi, to make her flip upside down. And he also did it when he kicked Luffy in the face.

I hope he returns though. I would really like to see the full extent of that ability.

[silverson]

kuma is basically a guy who mastered his DF (a paramecia DF). just imagine how luffy would look to us if we had no idea that he was a rubber man and exactly what he can do.... moving super fast and becoming semi-giant...as long as oda didnt illustrate him stretching i doubt anyone would guess what his power was....this is whats happening with kuma now.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

kuma is basically a guy who mastered his DF (a paramecia DF). just imagine how luffy would look to us if we had no idea that he was a rubber man and exactly what he can do.... moving super fast and becoming semi-giant...as long as oda didnt illustrate him stretching i doubt anyone would guess what his power was....this is whats happening with kuma now.

good example we must rly see this in that way before we don`t have an explanation (also his DF is in my opinion just "called" the paw-fruit cause of his cuteness and for the reason that we could so first imagine how he could block every attack(like a cute comic-cat who couldn`t be hurt....that`s why paw`s...) how will oda gives this DF a freaking normal OP explanation??!! can`t wait hehe

[Impel Down]

Considering he was in the public eye multiple times, like at Enies, Alabasta, and AP, Marines, CP agents, and whatnot have seen his power, so yeah, they know that's he's rubber.

[akakami]

Why does Kuma ask where would one like to go on vacation?

and where did Kuma put the Bible when he started fighting the strawhats-i didn´t see him putting it anywhere?
And considering that when Kuma had the bible in his hand he didn´t have these paws(though i´m not so sure about that),couldn´t you state that his bible(howsoever this is made possible by means of DF) somehow turned into these paws???