Why must you post that picture? What's the point of it?Originally Posted by Cap'n Carter
Why must you post that picture? What's the point of it?Originally Posted by Cap'n Carter
Don Krieg is the main villain of the series. Take a look at these:
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...to&PhotoID=978
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...to&PhotoID=979
Here, Oda shows that no matter who it is, Luffy will not back down from a challenge to his reaching the One Piece. This has never happened before and it never happens later (with the exception of Buggy). But Luffy doesn't see Buggy as his greatest adversary. In Roguetown, he says "Oh, it's you Buggy" and totally brushes him off:
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1940
He doesn't take Buggy seriously at all. And here are some interesting scenes, including Luffy calling Krieg his RIVAL:
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...to&PhotoID=980
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...to&PhotoID=987
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1202
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1203
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1209
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1210
And of course, there is the fact he refuses to back down, and look at that face...!
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1264
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1265
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1267
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1270
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1305
This, above all else, is the absolute, solid proof. Krieg and Luffy became ZOMBIES just to make sure they killed the other:
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1309
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1324
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1325
^Here Gin has to shut Krieg up and says "Lets start over". In other words, someone beat their high-score and they will try again. Yes, this is a big stretch, but shut-up.
I've always thought the main villian is the WG. It doesn't really hafta be 1 person dudes~
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I really hope the WG are not final bosses of the story, I'll like a religion battle and a evil compeny battle
"Encyclipedia Luffy and the case of the missing Bibles". Lol...Originally Posted by joekido the Second
I am literally willing to bet money on Buggy. No lie.
There isn't one.
Thank god...
They just become Naraku's after awhile...
There are 4 different types of conflict, if I recall correctly:
Man VS Man
Man VS Nature
Man VS Society
Man VS Himself
If I had to guess, One Piece is mostly the third one as the overarching plot - after all, the World Government blocked out 100 years of history for a reason, and judging by their methods of keeping the information hidden it wasn't a very morally sound one (although we don't know yet). Besides, with the latest arc showing the declare of war upon the World Government, we'll probably get more and more of this Man VS Society deal as the overreaching plot, with Man VS Man for pirate crews and battles and other such things.
Buggy learns to take his DF to the next level (such as luffy recently has), chopping himself into pieces so small he cannot be attacked, and this is luffy's ultimate battle on Raftel.
Seriously, how amazing would that be? And how's that for coming full circle?
Carter every damn time you post that Popey picture I friggin laugh myself to death.
Its definatly the WG. After all Luffy did declare war on them. That has to mean something.
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The classic comic book ideal where Batman has his Joker, Superman has his Lex Luthor or He-Man has his Skeletor doesn´t apply to One Piece. As already stated in here the antagonists come arc wise. And even when Luffy defeats the worlds strongest person (Whitebeard) or his idol Shanks to keep his promise then they won´t count as the main villains because in 421 chapters they have done nothing so far to move antagonistic to the protagonists.
If there´s anything that can be considered main antagonistical then it is the World Government which makes sense because this is a pirate story. Being a pirate itself indicates that you defy the government rules. And many of the adversaries we´ve met so far be it all the Marines, be it a Shichibukai or CP9 are all executive organs that work for the WG (though they have their own plans like Crocodile). So if anything the WG itself is the real main antagonist in One Piece because they definitely go against everything Luffy and his ideal of being a pirate stands. The other adversaries are just in the way compared to the WG.
When it comes right down to is. Luffy.
Pirates are supposely the "bad guys" and Luffy has rained surpreme.
However Luffy isn't the villian to us, but because he does plow through everyone, there isn't one. Plain and simple.
Personally, The fact that the villains are constantly changing are one of my favourite things about OP. Because,
You know when other series do that thing where theres' this really evil badass overlord, and theres' a hell of a lot of buildup to the climax, and the heroes take him and his cronies down in a fantastic explosion of fights and emotions, before the entire Saga beautifully wraps up?
OP does that over and over again.
And it keeps an overall background plot, interconnectivity, and above all, quality. After all, OP is far from Ranma ½.
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Me too, me too! Besides even after 40 volumes Buggy is still my favourite. WG... yeah well, ok. It's a fine choice too but if you're looking for a good ol' main villain, Buggy that is.Originally Posted by UPRC
Why the NAVY of course. They're always out to get pirates, which are on our side.
But there's also bounty hunters, out to get Luffy. And those with bounties on their heads aswell.....well I don't know.
Yes, I actually think it's buggy aswell. But it seems doubtful that a clown is Luffy's biggest threat.
Actually, besides Johnny, Yosaku, and Zoro...we haven't really seen any bounty hunters (outside of Whiskey Peak).
SO maybe in a future arc we'll see a mercenary after Luffy's bounty.
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I think you may need to read more of One Piece until you get the bigger picture.Originally Posted by Zolo Samurai
I'm gonna just agree with Cowmakaze.
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Now that you mention that, I can see him coming back (I already could due to what Gin said), but I have to go with what most of the others are saying: there really isn't one. The closest is the WG itself, but I don't see them as the "final" villains.Don Krieg is the main villain of the series.
there in't one / it constantly changes, which in this case really helps the series IMO
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