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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman View Post
    The theory seems legit. Kaidou means church or holy place. Holy places are pure, and shadows are released when they're purified. Hmmm..
    I'm calling it first.
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    Well its easy:

    North: Whitebeard (Barbarian north europe style)
    South: Big Mom (african, tribal women style)
    West: Shanks (american, hawaian surf style)
    East: Kaidou (japanese, chinese SHOGUN style)

    You will see.

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    that would be cool and sounds plausible to me. great discussion btw, one of the more interesting topics lately :)
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    Kaidou is the name of one the main characters in Prince of Tennis (finished, former Shonen Jump series) and Shin Prince of Tennis (the second part, currently running in Jump SQ)
    http://princeoftennis.wikia.com/wiki/Kaoru_Kaido
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    Quote Originally Posted by BingBang View Post
    Well its easy:

    North: Whitebeard (Barbarian north europe style)
    South: Big Mom (african, tribal women style)
    West: Shanks (american, hawaian surf style)
    East: Kaidou (japanese, chinese SHOGUN style)

    You will see.
    I like that, especially Kaidou.

    It may be a clue as to who the guy in the armour with the weird japanese haircut is.

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    And Big Mom would be based on Big Momma :L

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkaiser View Post
    I'm calling it first.
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    Why paramecia? Salt is actually a good Logia.

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    ohhhh shit we may have another Mozgus


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    Quote Originally Posted by NuFiasco View Post
    ohhhh shit we may have another Mozgus
    I think Kuma is Mozgus since he always carries around a Bible. He has the same hulking body too.

    Just look at the similarities
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    I never noticed the "color" think with the Four Emperors. That explains Blackbeard...and we could have figured that out a long time ago if we really thought about it.

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    I find the second meaning interesting, considering Moria looks similar to a devil or demon, and his name comes from morgue

    "Moria" may come from 蠑螈 which can be read as "imori", meaning "newt". And the bolded letters of Gecko Moria, which makes Komori, means "bat" in Japanese. And Gecko pronouced in Japanese as Gekko, means "moonlight" in Japanese, which suits his horror theme as well.

    Source:Once Piece Wikia, Trivia section. And while the trivia doesn't have any other source I find it very trustful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach Logan View Post
    I never noticed the "color" thing with the Four Emperors. That explains Blackbeard...and we could have figured that out a long time ago if we really thought about it.
    Well, talk for yourself
    Some people did figure it out long, long ago~

    I like the idea about nourth, south, west and east, I would love Big Mom to have a southern theme in looks ^^









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    Quote Originally Posted by skarlath View Post
    how 'bout copying and pasting?

    "We all know that Oda likes using Myths, Legends and Fables (fable backwards = Elbaf btw) and converting them, and as i was reading some old chinese myths when somthing hit me.

    There are said to be 4 seas in chinese mythology North, South, East and West....(hmmm that sounds familure)

    They in turn are represented by four colors Yellow, Blue, White and Red....(hmmmm those colors are familure too..)

    They have also been represented by different animals over time including a Monkey, a Bird, a Dragon, and a Dog....(that was when something pinged)

    A north sea with a yellow monkey =Admiral Kizaru??
    A south sea with a blue bird = Admiral Aokiji??
    A west sea with a red dog = Admiral Akainu??

    Which just leaves the East sea with a white dragon

    This is all speculation but it would explaine why Dragon is the most wanted man alive. After all if one of the World Goverments top people defected and turned against them they would probably want him dead no matter what...

    Also considering how much Garp was trying to train Luffy into becoming a Marine its a safe bet to say he did the same with his own son.

    EDIT 1

    Plus another titbit of info i'v found is that the 4 seas are also assiciated with the 4 seasons. Unfortunatly i havent been able to find out which ones they are associated with, but we do know that Aokiji has the Akuma no Mi power of Ice = Winter?, and maybe, just maybe, Dragon has some sort of Kaze Kaze no Mi power, we saw a huge Typhoon hit Louge Town when he appeared, and Typhoon season is in the Autumn....

    EDIT 2

    A little bit more info on my theory...

    Japan also has mythology around 4 seas they are all represented by different color dragons, 3 colors are the same as in china red, yellow, and blue, but the 4th one is BLACK and not white...

    IF Dragon was an admiral he would have worn white, but everytime we've seen him he was wearing black....(i think)

    Maybe a Yin Yang type thing.....?good? White dragon becomes ?evil? black dragon...

    White = good = World Government???
    Black = evil = Revolutionarys???
    (in WG opinion)

    please remember that this is all speculation and theory.....

    EDIT 3

    I forgot to mention that the Black Dragon in Japanese mythology can also summon Typhoons.

    EDIT 4

    Hmmmm.... this ain't to do with dragon... sort of... but i'v noticed that the two Yonkou that we know the names of have colors in there names as well. RED hair Shanks and WHITEbeard....i wonder if the other two have colors as well i.e. yellow and blue to go with the 4 seas myth also....maybe.......
    "
    great stuff. really complete theory. also the 4th black/white dragon could be the allusion Oda was going for when Blackbeard eclipsed Whitebeard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishLuigi View Post
    I like that, especially Kaidou.

    It may be a clue as to who the guy in the armour with the weird japanese haircut is.



    And Big Mom would be based on Big Momma :L
    Aside from Hancock, I don't recognize any of the other 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skarlath View Post
    how 'bout copying and pasting?

    "We all know that Oda likes using Myths, Legends and Fables (fable backwards = Elbaf btw) and converting them, and as i was reading some old chinese myths when somthing hit me.

    There are said to be 4 seas in chinese mythology North, South, East and West....(hmmm that sounds familure)

    They in turn are represented by four colors Yellow, Blue, White and Red....(hmmmm those colors are familure too..)

    They have also been represented by different animals over time including a Monkey, a Bird, a Dragon, and a Dog....(that was when something pinged)

    A north sea with a yellow monkey =Admiral Kizaru??
    A south sea with a blue bird = Admiral Aokiji??
    A west sea with a red dog = Admiral Akainu??

    Which just leaves the East sea with a white dragon
    I don't know how you missed this.

    White = Smoker.

    Looks like he's bound for great things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman View Post
    Why paramecia? Salt is actually a good Logia.
    A salt Logia would be too much like Croc with the whole tiny granules and dehydration. A Mr. 3 like paramecia would be just as awesome but with out intangibility. Salt weapons just sounds awesome. Maybe even Salt Soldiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by semil View Post
    Aside from Hancock, I don't recognize any of the other 3.
    that isn't hancock, could have been an early sketch of her though..
    but hancock has black hair and the girl on the back of the cover has
    purple hair. also, the snake is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakajaro View Post
    that isn't hancock, could have been an early sketch of her though..
    but hancock has black hair and the girl on the back of the cover has
    purple hair. also, the snake is different.
    That' her early design. Oda confirmed it.
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    Wow. Can't believe I never read this thread. That was a great trivia.

    Though I have always thought that Oda is using the Momotarou story for the admirals. Momotarou recruited a dog, a monkey and a bird.

    But if Oda is also using the seas and its colors as a sign, then Smoker becoming an admiral sounds plausible. Just a random thought though, would he still be Aokiji, or Shiroryu (Shiro is white and Ryu is Dragon right? pls correct me if I'm wrong).

    Anyways the mythology about the seas can also be used for the Yonkous, I agree that the black/white difference might reference to Whitebeard replaced by Blackbeard (after all, he did steal the Gura Gura no Mi).

    I've seen the design somewhere before, a long time ago when Hancock was first introduced. The fourth guy seemed an awful lot like BrownBeard. Only the 2nd and 3rd guy is a mystery, or they have been used and I just missed it?

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    I am expecting a very long arc with Kaidu.

    I am pretty sure he will be an incredible strategist, very cheap and cruel. I am expecting him to be the most cruel of the Yonkus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishLuigi View Post
    I don't know how you missed this.

    White = Smoker.

    Looks like he's bound for great things.
    Oh shiiiiiiit *_____*

    I never believed that Smoker would be an admiral right after the timeskip, until now.

    If he's been training sufficiently, it's theoretically possible...?!

    I want it to happen now >.< But even if Oda originally intended it that way, I still don't think that he has set it up sufficiently that it's a believable step in the story.

    So probably not yet :/
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