General 'Four Emperors' Discussion

[King Kobra]

Yeah, but the point is that Luffy will not comform with becoming a Yonkou. Hell, I don't even think he would want to be a Yonkou and join the 3POWERS Game of the world...

[skarlath]

Being Pirate King is not necessarily just about the strength of one single man. You gotta have a strong (and probably numerous) crew.

[skarlath]

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uh yeah... this is awesome...

[Kaze no Barako]

Both this and the topic creators theory is most likely invalidated by the existance of Crocodile. He was nowhere near the other warlords and is not likely at all to have gone up against a yonkou imo. He should have been crushed long before that. (Ofc its not totally impossible that he managed to get his face smashed in by a yonkou.)

Yeah, I'm still totally confused as to why the hell Crocodile got into the Shichibukai. I'm pretty sure that his 'suck all the water out of people' technique (whatever the hell it was called; did it have a name anyway?) could probably be pretty tough against even super-awesome-megastrong people, though, so long as they weren't smart enough to figure out his weakness, but... I'd probably think a Yonkou would be able to figure that out... sigh. You do have a point.

The fact is in the end, though, that the WG is looking for strong pirates willing to give up their freedom in exchange for not being wanted anymore, and well, a lot of strong pirates have encountered the Yonkou. It's probably just a coincidence that so many of them have.

[Kaze no Barako]

Wild KAIDOU appeared!
Go, LUFFY!
LUFFY used GOMU GOMU NO SUPER AWESOME SPECIAL ATTACK!
Wild KAIDOU fainted!
BOUNTY raised 300 million points!
You got $100,000,000 for winning!

LUFFY grew to LV 87!
What's this? LUFFY is evolving!
Your LUFFY evolved into YONKOU!

-cough-

...Yeah, sorry, couldn't resist. The 'suddenly run into' phrasing made me do it.

Anyway, it could happen, but I can't really picture Luffy being part of anything that can be categorized like that. Even though 'Yonkou' is just used to talk about all four of the strongest pirates in the New World, I'd kind of like to see Luffy NOT be referred to as a Yonkou, somehow get to One Piece without them noticing, become Pirate King, and then all the Yonkou be like "Oh SNAP."

Either that, or Luffy wipe out all the Yonkou (though I dunno about Shanks) and then be the -only- Emperor.

The title just doesn't seem like it fits Luffy, but I'm sure it's likely to happen anyway.

[skarlath]

LUFFY used GOMU GOMU NO SUPER AWESOME SPECIAL ATTACK!

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[skarlath]

Yeah, I'm still totally confused as to why the hell Crocodile got into the Shichibukai. I'm pretty sure that his 'suck all the water out of people' technique (whatever the hell it was called; did it have a name anyway?) could probably be pretty tough against even super-awesome-megastrong people, though, so long as they weren't smart enough to figure out his weakness, but... I'd probably think a Yonkou would be able to figure that out... sigh. You do have a point.

The fact is in the end, though, that the WG is looking for strong pirates willing to give up their freedom in exchange for not being wanted anymore, and well, a lot of strong pirates have encountered the Yonkou. It's probably just a coincidence that so many of them have.

why does everyone look down on croc? everyone says that water is an easy weakness to figure out... MY ASS

croc was a badass who just never checked to see if he had killed luffy,

so he was dumb, but he was also a shonen villian...

[luffy210]

The first thing that's going to happen in the new world is Luffy's going to get his ass handed to him. Luffy was defeated twice before he was able to rise to the Shichibukai level, so to get to Yonkou, he's got to really get whooped. Remember, even though Aokiji let him go, Luffy would have been dead if Aokiji hadn't taken pity on him. The Yonkou won't be as forgiving. A good ass kicking will give luffy the drive to come up with a better technique than the gears, because the after-effects of them are obviously not working.

[King Kobra]

I want to see Whitebeard surviving a Gigant Jet Shell or a Gigant Jet Pistol.

Yeah, thinking about it, Gigant Jet Pistol would perfectly fit as Luffy's ULTIMATE Technique. He may pull it while fighting Shanks.

[Kaze no Barako]

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[Mantisk]

Actually, I think the theory makes a lot of sense. The four Yonkou basically refer to the four pirates closest to One Piece. If Luffy beats one of them, whether he cares about it or not, he will be closer to One Piece than that Yonkou since to be the Pirate King, don't you have to be the strongest Pirate in the world?

I don't think you have to be the strongest pirate and beat the shit out of everybody to get the One Piece. Sure, it could help you a lot if you would do so, but in the end it just matters if you get the One Piece. And if you'd get it, I think every other pirate - yes, even guys like Whitebeard - would accept you as the new Pirate King.

[AcethePuma]

luffy losing to whitebeard....but still finding the one piece that is something other than gold or something... the trust of his crew, the bonds that grew etc... and after losing he´ll find it the true one piece and everyone will admit it...

on becoming yonkou...may he will be called but i don´t think so...like i get it...they are the emperors of areas so luffy has to pass them in some way, but i don´t think that luffy gives a sh*t about being called any other thing than pirate king.

[Gorlom]

I don't think you have to be the strongest pirate and beat the shit out of everybody to get the One Piece. Sure, it could help you a lot if you would do so, but in the end it just matters if you get the One Piece. And if you'd get it, I think every other pirate - yes, even guys like Whitebeard - would accept you as the new Pirate King.

You would kinda need to be the strongest because if you aren't the strongest pirate will just take OP away from you after you find it. Gol D Roger had it all wealth, POWER and fame. I really doubt someone like WB will just bow down to you just because you found something. I mean he still battled with GDR when he was active even though GDR had the title of PK.

[Lobolover]

Yeah, but the point is that Luffy will not comform with becoming a Yonkou. Hell, I don't even think he would want to be a Yonkou and join the 3POWERS Game of the world...

I dont think any of the Yonkou are voluntarily a part of that.

[Kingoffans]

Like Gorlom said, besides when you find One Piece, you become the
Pirate KING. You think other pirates will be ruled by someone inferior to them? (I know you don't really become a king but do you think Luffy will be acknowledged unless he is NOT the strongest pirate in the world?) Also do you think these four Yonkou are just gonna let Luffy waltz in and take One Piece? No matter what, getting One Piece isn't as simple as just finding it. There are other people who want it including the Yonkou and they will have to fight it out to see who can get their hands on it. Also, I always thought Yonkou was always an unofficial term given by the WG. A form of a nickname if you will to refer to the four pirates closest to One Piece. I never thought any of the four Yonkou even acknowledged that title like Luffy wouldn't unless they're total ego heads about it like Crocodile was being a Shickibukai. If Luffy beats one of them, he will have surpassed a Yonkou meaning he'll be closer to One Piece than that Yonkou since he is stronger than him. Since Luffy is closer to One Piece than one of the Yonkou, then Luffy will have to become a Yonkou since the Yonku are SUPPOSED to be the four closest pirates to One Piece.

[luffy_versus_lucci]

If Luff trashes a Yonkou, I would assume that his bounty would skyrocket like crazy and the government would do everything in their power to take them down. Not only has he already taken down 2 shichibukai, but he's trashed CP9 as well. If he takes down a Yonkou, the whole world might be after him.

[skarlath]

Like Gorlom said, besides when you find One Piece, you become the
Pirate KING. You think other pirates will be ruled by someone inferior to them? (I know you don't really become a king but do you think Luffy will be acknowledged unless he is NOT the strongest pirate in the world?) Also do you think these four Yonkou are just gonna let Luffy waltz in and take One Piece? No matter what, getting One Piece isn't as simple as just finding it. There are other people who want it including the Yonkou and they will have to fight it out to see who can get their hands on it. Also, I always thought Yonkou was always an unofficial term given by the WG. A form of a nickname if you will to refer to the four pirates closest to One Piece. I never thought any of the four Yonkou even acknowledged that title like Luffy wouldn't unless they're total ego heads about it like Crocodile was being a Shickibukai. If Luffy beats one of them, he will have surpassed a Yonkou meaning he'll be closer to One Piece than that Yonkou since he is stronger than him. Since Luffy is closer to One Piece than one of the Yonkou, then Luffy will have to become a Yonkou since the Yonku are SUPPOSED to be the four closest pirates to One Piece.

technically the Yonkou are the closest to being Pirate King. Seriously, Luffy dream is to be Pirate King by way of finding One Piece. I suspect that a few of the Yonkou, who do want to be Pirate King, aren't looking for One Piece. Becuase, wouldn't they of found it?

Shanks and Whitebeard can just laze around, then they are clearly not looking for it. And they're not looking for it because no one has found it. Because if no one has found it yet, its gotta be lost somewhere, not just sitting on some island that no one has found the time to go too.

The only thing that Luffy's got that others don't is Nico Robin. She's clearly the key. She can read the writing or whatever. So while the Yonkou are trying to be PIRATE KING, I don't think they're trying to claim One Piece. So even if Luffy does beat 'em up, he's gonna keep sailing. So the loser, or someone else, will just reclaim the territory.

Sorry for the jumble, very jumbled ideas...

[Kingoffans]

Erm dude, sorry for saying this but that kinda sounds erm dumb. To be the Pirate King, you HAVE TO find One Piece. It's kinda like the whole point of trying to become Pirate King. If it were just about strength, then that would make White Beard Pirate King, but no one calls him that. Anyway, i'm sure there is something big keeping all the other Yonkou from getting to One Piece, whatever it is, I can't wait to find out^^

[phyrros]

luffy losing to whitebeard....but still finding the one piece that is something other than gold or something... the trust of his crew, the bonds that grew etc... and after losing he´ll find it the true one piece and everyone will admit it...

Like finding freedom thru knowledge about the true nature of the worlds history engraved in some (rio)porneglyph?

never ever. as much as i admire oda for his work, i would not expect to find any komplex solution at the end of the series...

[Impel Down]

Crocodile didn't make the Shichibukai because of one move, he got in because they recognized his rising power and influence. They stopped him before he doubled his bounty, remember, so it's clear that he was movin' on up to the East Side before they recruited him.