History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

Wow, this week's chapter reminded me why I like this series so much. We get an epic Yomi battle in just two chapters yet the sequences leading up to it weren't rushed or pulled out the ass or anything but were logically sound with a great plot twist. Epic.

don`t overdo it dude
this guy hermit is fighting is pulled out the ass for example.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

No, he looked like some weak dunce that just needed to make way for Tanimoto. But after seeing his resolution as a martial artist as well as Sougetsu commenting on how he's a little above Tanimoto in everything, it looks like we've got ourselves a bonafide awesome battle. The fact that Ma Sougetsu was one of the fists who was on vacation and was replaced temporarily makes sense given his character and strength. The fact that the replacement's student Chou Enshin wouldn't give his position easily and that's he's really strong also makes sense. Everything's logically sound.

[Kent]

No, he looked like some weak dunce that just needed to make way for Tanimoto. But after seeing his resolution as a martial artist as well as Sougetsu commenting on how he's a little above Tanimoto in everything, it looks like we've got ourselves a bonafide awesome battle. The fact that Ma Sougetsu was one of the fists who was on vacation and was replaced temporarily makes sense given his character and strength. The fact that the replacement's student Chou Enshin wouldn't give his position easily and that's he's really strong also makes sense. Everything's logically sound.

wow thanks for spoiling it

[hanyanghfy]

It is a funny serie but the style of figure is not fit for my taste.
Anyway it is still worth watching.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Str...enichi/355/01/

New Chapter and end of fight. Pretty good fight given that it was merely a prelude to Tanimoto replacing Chou. Liked the "hitting himself in the face" bit a lot:P

Also the way the fight ended was badass.

[Ringleader]

i started reading the manga again from where i left off (atm around 190) it seems at chapter 355 they are still fighting yomi :O

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

No, he looked like some weak dunce that just needed to make way for Tanimoto. But after seeing his resolution as a martial artist as well as Sougetsu commenting on how he's a little above Tanimoto in everything, it looks like we've got ourselves a bonafide awesome battle.

to build up tension you have to give some chararcters you know a line about a new chara...
and what else should sougetsu say here about this "new super fighter"..
he has a strong trainer(we never heared that he exists before) and now this new disciple is a little stronger than hermit...uhuuuu
yeah here iam rly curious who will win when this other guy is introduced in 1 fucking chapter and than directly begins to fight for a yomi position against hermit, a well-known and loved chara...
it`s the same as with the other guy hermit fighted...(also a littel stronger but hermit has to improve)
just that this new guy has also a strong trainer and hermit has again to improve...

don`t get me wrong it`s everything fine for me and it sure fitts the story...
but this guy is out of nowhere and now we should expect a fight for life or death against some unknown hyped guy, cause of some lines sougetsu said.

[choperman]

http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Str...enichi/365/01/

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i know no one's really been discussing this but in this chapter there starting to get more and more like dragonball like with the after images and now there showing nipples to

[onemoment]

http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Str...enichi/365/01/

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i know no one's really been discussing this but in this chapter there starting to get more and more like dragonball like with the after images and now there showing nipples to

Well...while it's not a real noteworthy arc, am I disturbed by the manga's increase of ecchiness. It really cheapens this series, especially any scene with Shigure. They keep dipping past the point where its fun fanservice and instead hurt the character's dignity.

And again, no one is talking about this series is because this current arc...is pretty pointless. I mean...suddenly Yomi gives a fuck about weapons? Then there's a weapon squad? Why are these no name characters fighting the masters, and why is this taking more then one chapter? There's no way they can win, they're nameless! I'm just glad the arcs in this series are so short, when they suck it means we can move onto the next one.

Now the last arc where Kenichi fought that Russian disciple, that was a good one.

[Panekai]

oh wow, a kenichi thread, glad I didn't make one yet. And yeah, sure is a lot of ecchi lately. And for some reason I'm starting to miss Miu, kinda hope this arc would end already.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

Well...while it's not a real noteworthy arc, am I disturbed by the manga's increase of ecchiness. It really cheapens this series, especially any scene with Shigure. They keep dipping past the point where its fun fanservice and instead hurt the character's dignity.

Never cared about the ecchiness but for what it's worth, the level is about the same. It's something you're used to at this point of the series if you're a fan. No amount of fan-service will ever hurt my bad-ass image of Shigure though. At least not the amount of fan-service permissible in a shonen comic.

And again, no one is talking about this series is because this current arc...is pretty pointless.

Nope, it's probably because of the same reason as Negima and that the pointless fan-service repels any potential discussion which is a shame because this series rocks.By that logic, this thread would have been more active like a month ago.The only reason it had any posts at all the last few months is because of me.

Anyway this arc is far from pointless. Not only does it expand a little upon the Yomi organisation, it builds up Kushinada as a damn scary future enemy, furthers Kenichi's relationship with Chikage so it doesn't seem bullshit when she inevitably joins the good guys and even potentially gives us a new ally in the form of Kagerou.

I mean...suddenly Yomi gives a fuck about weapons?

Yomi's a large organization. I'm sure they have a lot of different agendas. This time it was weapons, another time it was assassinating government officials.

Then there's a weapon squad?

The weapon's squad was mentioned ages ago when Shigure first fought Kagerou.

Why are these no name characters fighting the masters, and why is this taking more then one chapter?

It's pretty interesting actually. It goes to show that Yomi doesn't only have the nine fists to their name and everyone else is weak sauce.

There's no way they can win, they're nameless!

They wouldn't win even if they had a name. Plot dictated it. It still gives an interesting exposition on Yomi and the competence of its members. Like that one guy who managed to get away from elder while dragging his friend. That's an incredible feat initself.

Now the last arc where Kenichi fought that Russian disciple, that was a good one.

He wasn't Russian. Don't confuse Ethan with Boris.

[onemoment]

Never cared about the ecchiness but for what it's worth, the level is about the same. It's something you're used to at this point of the series if you're a fan. No amount of fan-service will ever hurt my bad-ass image of Shigure though. At least not the amount of fan-service permissible in a shonen comic.

Nope, it's probably because of the same reason as Negima and that the pointless fan-service repels any potential discussion which is a shame because this series rocks.By that logic, this thread would have been more active like a month ago.The only reason it had any posts at all the last few months is because of me.

Oh, I don't have a problem with fanservice, but there's a time and place for everything. Here's the real page that bothers me.

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The other fighters wreck there opponents, but Shigure gets the short end of the stick here. Look in the background, the silhouettes of Shigure are all of her legs with her ass in the air! There's no excuse for that, not where pretty literally ever shot of her up to this point has had some level of fanservice in it already. Why couldn't we get a cool sword slash during this action scene, and save the fanservice for the comedy scenes which are supposed to be more laid back. It's what I hate about Shigure's character, too many sacrifices are made for the sake of sex appeal. I really wish there were more scenes of her kicking ass like the other masters.

And fanservice isn't all bad. I remember a scene where her and the headmaster Hyato were wearing thongs by a public pool. Now, THAT scene was funny because of it's absurdity. Here, well the naked girl in the panel is enough, what was the artist thinking those silhouettes would do? They aren't drawn well enough to be sexy and like I said, they can't be taken seriously. It adds nothing and sucks tension out of the scene.

Anyway this arc is far from pointless. Not only does it expand a little upon the Yomi organisation, it builds up Kushinada as a damn scary future enemy, furthers Kenichi's relationship with Chikage so it doesn't seem bullshit when she inevitably joins the good guys and even potentially gives us a new ally in the form of Kagerou.

Yeah...that all happened in one chapter though, the Kushinada parts and Chikage parts at least. That doesn't make out for the other wasted chapters.

Yomi's a large organization. I'm sure they have a lot of different agendas. This time it was weapons, another time it was assassinating government officials.

The weapon's squad was mentioned ages ago when Shigure first fought Kagerou.

Yeah...that's all pretty bland though. It seems pretty pointless for a group for lethal martial artists need weapons for anyway. I

It's pretty interesting actually. It goes to show that Yomi doesn't only have the nine fists to their name and everyone else is weak sauce.

They wouldn't win even if they had a name. Plot dictated it. It still gives an interesting exposition on Yomi and the competence of its members. Like that one guy who managed to get away from elder while dragging his friend. That's an incredible feat initself.

That's be more true if these other guys were more interesting. They were completing unmemorable characters. That's the real weakness of this arc, it just came out of nowhere and threw the characters into these actions scenes, which I'm guessing what the author's intention anyway. He wanted sex and action, and here it was.

But despite this I guess it's to be expected. This series is pretty much a middle road shonen manga anyway. It's not really bad...but never gets that good either. Personally, I'm just reading it as long as I can find it on onemanga. I've only gotten more into this series now that the anime's airing on tv.

[leapyear29]

what i know is that the current running series of this was the remake of the original? correct me if i'm wrong.. anyway this manga is good it reminds me og karate kid movie hehe..

[Thousand Lion-chan]

Oh, I don't have a problem with fanservice, but there's a time and place for everything. Here's the real page that bothers me.

Spoiler:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/...1985/14-15.jpg

The other fighters wreck there opponents, but Shigure gets the short end of the stick here. Look in the background, the silhouettes of Shigure are all of her legs with her ass in the air! There's no excuse for that, not where pretty literally ever shot of her up to this point has had some level of fanservice in it already. Why couldn't we get a cool sword slash during this action scene, and save the fanservice for the comedy scenes which are supposed to be more laid back. It's what I hate about Shigure's character, too many sacrifices are made for the sake of sex appeal. I really wish there were more scenes of her kicking ass like the other masters.

You're kidding, right? You do realise she was in generic spirit form where everything is cloaked in light? And she's freakin' tiny. You call that fan-service? The reason that scene was drawn as it was because it's much cooler to think the strikes were occurring in parellel different directions rather than the same direction. We got Shigure's back and Kagerou's front. Since we've never gotten a Kagerou badass pose attack before, he ended up getting the front. That was a very, very bad example. And Shigure kicks plenty of ass. In fact, she's one of the etter treated masters on the show (heck, they're all treated great). She got her own flashback, mini-arc not to mention her personality and fighting style is great. Her final opponent was just hyped up and built up to be much stronger than her giving a potential awesome battle in the future. I don't agree that the fan-service detracts her awesomeness in any way. Personally it doesn't bother me at all, I just take it as one of those things that registers for half a second and then you move on.

And fanservice isn't all bad. I remember a scene where her and the headmaster Hyato were wearing thongs by a public pool. Now, THAT scene was funny because of it's absurdity. Here, well the naked girl in the panel is enough, what was the artist thinking those silhouettes would do? They aren't drawn well enough to be sexy and like I said, they can't be taken seriously. It adds nothing and sucks tension out of the scene.

It's probably the aesthethics of the author. I agree that it doesn't seem well drawn but it doesn't look like he's even trying. Probably the same as drawing clothers for Matusena. At any rate, it only sucks out tension if you let it bother you. I just ignore it, it's not a big deal.

Yeah...that all happened in one chapter though, the Kushinada parts and Chikage parts at least. That doesn't make out for the other wasted chapters.

What's wasted? The current plot is the battle of Ryonzopaku vs. Yomi. To just have them fight the nine fists would be boring. Having them fight aginst different parts like the weapons division adds an element of diversty and intrigue. Not to mention the entire weapons theme being a good foundation for Shigure to get some limelight when she fought against Kushinada. It felt more sensible that she did the fighting rather than Sakaki.

Yeah...that's all pretty bland though. It seems pretty pointless for a group for lethal martial artists need weapons for anyway. I

So Shigure is pointless? Martial arts is a diverse art in the real world let alone in the shonenified Kenichi world. There are certain martial artists that revolve their art around using a weapon. The fact that there is a differentiation made between those who use weapons and those who don't is quite sensible because that's a pretty big deal. Also blandness is subjective. I find this diversity interesting.

That's be more true if these other guys were more interesting. They were completing unmemorable characters. That's the real weakness of this arc, it just came out of nowhere and threw the characters into these actions scenes, which I'm guessing what the author's intention anyway. He wanted sex and action, and here it was.

They had good designs and even gave us some interesting fights. Going into detail on their characters would have slowed things down and lowered the excitement of the arc. This fast pacing diving head deep straight into action is actually one of the things that makes this series awesome. And quit exagerrating on the sex part. A nipple shot here and there is nothing.

But despite this I guess it's to be expected. This series is pretty much a middle road shonen manga anyway. It's not really bad...but never gets that good either. Personally, I'm just reading it as long as I can find it on onemanga. I've only gotten more into this series now that the anime's airing on tv.

Again, subjective. This series is definitely one of my top favorites.

what i know is that the current running series of this was the remake of the original? correct me if i'm wrong.. anyway this manga is good it reminds me og karate kid movie hehe..

Yeah, same characters. Different, far better story. And Sougetsu looks like a bona fide badass not a boring old man :D

[RPG KING]

one of the best martial arts series to be made.

current events: ryozanpaku fought against the armed squad of the Yami

[Malintex_Terek]

I'm FAIRLY sure there's a topic already around for this.

That said, I'm not sure why this is popular. I've never actually read it but I'm expecting it's similar to Ippo, which I dislike.

[Kaptain_Kabul]

No it's not like ippo!

It's a standard formula fighting manga, same formula as Ranma 1/2, Tenjou Tenge,Holyland.

Holyland came out later with the exact same idea as History Strongest Diciple,but has somehow more insight and a more realistic setting.

Fanservice of HSDK is a mixture of Ranma and Tenjou Tenge.

Not bad, but nothing special.

The humour is where HSDK is brilliant. I really laughed a lot while reading it.

The Romace thing annoy with time, because the whole story takes to long to achieve anything. But if long going romantic, fighting comedy is your thing, HSDK is the manga you are searching for.

[Malintex_Terek]

Ranma is a classic. But I hated Ten Ten! It's a maddening series with a nonsensical plot and way too much misogyny. I dropped that like a lead brick when it went into the Edo era.

I'm not really a fan of fanservice, hence the エッチなのはいけないと思います！, but I can tolerate if if it's Ranma level. That's not bad.

Ten Ten is like an extreme though.

[Unrequited]

This topic exists. http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=17022

@Malintex

I also enjoyed Ranma, but I abhor HSDK.

The polar opposite of misogny. The main character's akin to Sanji, in the way that he holds a double-standard towards women. However, his chivalry's impractical, nonsensical, and annoying. I was vexed by a few other things too.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

I love it. It was my second favorite manga till I read Negima. Awesome fights, awesome art and fantastic characterization and humour. And it's about the only series I know where the main character is a talentless loser who got to where he is with pure hard work and tons of killer training. Imagine someone like Rock Lee being the main character.