Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

[tony-kun]

Nah, it's never really explained(as far as I've read into part 5 that is)

All we know is that Dio was shot by the arrow, and that every other Joestar developed stand abilities after that.

He's the only one who had both a fast, hard hitting humanoid stand and a thorn based one, so I just assumed it all originated with him.

and I thought at one point that he got two because he was a combination of two different people, but I didn't want to really think about it anymore at that point.

[Impel Down]

I really wish there was more about Johnathan's dad. Being, essentially, the one who made the Jostars fabulous, I'd imagine he'd have some crazy-strong Stand and/or Hamon talent.

[Jay_n_Silentbob]

Just wanted to clear this up;

But Part 6, aside from the first 3 volumes has not be translated and all this info you guys have of Part 6 and beyond is just from RAWS?

And if so, are the RAWS easy to follow?

[Captain Kuro]

See, I figured that the arrow just awakened the latent Stand abilities within a person (and Dio getting shot awakened the Joestar's in a similar way). So, I thought that it didn't actually "give" them their Stands, but just unlocked them.

It's never explained really, but I always took that as meaning their Stands were already sort of "pre-determined" to an extent (and not just based on whatever Dio got).

Or something like that. I mean, I'm basing none of this on anything really except my own line of thinking when I first read those parts.

But it could just be that a Stand isn't determined until the moment that it's actually awakened. In that case, I guess it would make sense if all the Joestar's just got what Dio got.

[tony-kun]

That makes sense. Since no one seems to get a stand that doesn't fit their personality. Pretty sure you're right

The only thing that threw me off was all the stands fitting a specific tarot card(or whatever they were) in part 3.

I think Abdul even was able to tell the abilities of certain stands from name alone, or figure out the stand's name from just seeing the ability. So I thought they were like devil fruits throughout most of part 3 actually.

[Captain Kuro]

Yeah, I'm guessing Araki didn't really have everything quite worked out at that point in the story.


I think I once read (or Araki mentioned it or something, I don't remember) how he didn't anticipate that he would run out of tarot names, but he did, which is why he had to start using Egyptian gods and stuff.

[Impel Down]

That makes sense. Since no one seems to get a stand that doesn't fit their personality. Pretty sure you're right

The only thing that threw me off was all the stands fitting a specific tarot card(or whatever they were) in part 3.

I think Abdul even was able to tell the abilities of certain stands from name alone, or figure out the stand's name from just seeing the ability. So I thought they were like devil fruits throughout most of part 3 actually.

It's not like they had set names, they were just...named. And all the other Stands who's names he just threw out, he said he'd heard of them before as notorious contract killers and thieves, so their Stand names were known withing the Stand-user community.

[Jay_n_Silentbob]

I think I once read (or Araki mentioned it or something, I don't remember) how he didn't anticipate that he would run out of tarot names, but he did, which is why he had to start using Egyptian gods and stuff.

Aren't there like 107 tarot cards, though?

[Captain Kuro]

Aren't there like 107 tarot cards, though?

Well, there are only a few major ones that most people remember (the "Major Arcana"). Or at least they are the only ones I ever see referenced in pretty much anything.

[Tsuchirinhon]

It didn't make a good "series wide" Stand, but it was good for a Final Smash.

It was good for ruining Part V.

Gold Experience is a pile of crap. In the beginning, he was pretty much a better version of Crazy Diamond. Then, he became a better version of Jesus Christ.

Part V, in general, had a lot of terrible spots in it, and a lot of the Stands were just way too good. Metallica and Purple Haze come to mind immediately.

[Jay_n_Silentbob]

I thought Part V was going to be the greatest when I started reading it (love the whole gangster raising through the ranks genre), but then the entire story became escorting Trish while fighting off stand users who magically find out where they are.

Also, Diavolo looked stupid; seriously, why does he have spots in his hair?

[Qualms]

It was good for ruining Part V.

Gold Experience is a pile of crap. In the beginning, he was pretty much a better version of Crazy Diamond. Then, he became a better version of Jesus Christ.

Part V, in general, had a lot of terrible spots in it, and a lot of the Stands were just way too good. Metallica and Purple Haze come to mind immediately.

Purple Haze Requiem will eat your children.

I disagree, I thought some of the stands in Part V were amazing, just not presented very well or put to their finest use. Gold Experience had an awesome concept but Araki didn't build upon it in any consistent way, so it turned out line this:

lol bugs n fruit > lag punch > giorno the messiah > giorno the time rapist

Could've been something cooler and more consistent, like...

lol bugs n fruit > rofl terraform > lmao rapid evolution > roflmao nature hacker

Sounds overpowered, but it can have limits and conditions up the ass.

[Tsuchirinhon]

You know, you can sit here all day and go "THIS COULD HAVE ITS LIMITS," but I'm still not going to give a shit since the canon disagrees with you.

[Taleran]

King Crimson was the root of all the problems in Part V, even though generaly I liked the Stand and most of the time it was on panel, it was too randomly stronger and different and powerful when compared to anything shown since the start of the Arc and yeah.

I enjoyed Part V immensly, all the action was on point and awesome right up to Metallica and Crimson (2 crazyily powered stands fighting, (I also hated Diavolo's split personality), and then everything else up to GER


oh and

[tony-kun]

Does anyone get how the hell King Crimson's ability works?

At first, I essentially thought it was the same thing as the world.(it still kind of is) but I don't get the whole sees the future thing.

What I got was he slows time and he is the only one able to perceive it, so he is able to react to attacks.

Or he moves faster using his ability or something.

But I have no idea really.

[Taleran]

he sees what happens for 10 seconds and then can react to said viewing I belive


there was a whole massive page devoted to it after the original volume with the stand

[tony-kun]

he sees what happens for 10 seconds and then can react to said viewing I belive


there was a whole massive page devoted to it after the original volume with the stand

so he sees into the future and then whatever he sees can't be perceived by anyone else?

and I did read the page long explanation. That's what confused me.

I had got that it was pretty much the same thing as Time Stop from reading

[Jay_n_Silentbob]

The difference between the two is that King Crimson destroys 10 seconds from time.

He makes the next 10 seconds only exist to him, while everyone else just does what they were regularly going to do in those 10 seconds.

He sees the future because he's the only one who can see the time he destroys.

That's what I got from the two explanation pages.

[Tsuchirinhon]

King Crimson works like this:

First, he can look ahead into the future, seeing what happens during a 10-second time frame. Then, what he does is he erases that section of time. He doesn't skip it, speed through it, or stop it -- it is fucking gone.

Basically, he takes the "rin" out of "Cyringohn" so that it becomes "Cygohn." "Cy" and "Gohn" do not change, functioning just as they would, regardless.

Essentially, there really isn't any way to defeat King Crimson, as interval in time that could potentially harm him can simply be erased; you'd have to somehow throw him into a pit of lava or something, where erasing the next 10 seconds still wouldn't save him. Araki wrote himself into a giant dead end with that ability.

[Nurlock]

The only thing I really liked in the end of Part V was Diavolo's fate, though maybe it was just 'cause I saw it in the game before it was translated and it was kind of trippy to watch him die again and again. Yeah, King Crimson and GER were just way too over the top, but I really do like the majority of Part V as a whole. And it was going good for a bit near the end, with Polnareff and the body switching and Narancia.

But yet again, this proves one thing: Kira has been the greatest villain so far, since his power never got too out-of-hand that required a last-minute power-up.

Just a truck.