Before arguing whether they have Haki or not. Let's define Haki: abilities that come from spiritual sources as opposed to physical strength, weapons, or Devil Fruits. By that definition, Zoro and Sanji have Haki.
If your definition of Haki is: abilities specifically demonstrated by Silvers Rayleigh while introducing the concepts to Luffy, then Zoro and Sanji would not have Haki.
I think Oda would follow my definition, because making Haki a specific art form like Rokushiki doesn't match Rayleigh's explanation. Rayleigh said Haki is an ability "no different" from the senses of fighting spirit, perception, and intimidation, which everyone has to varying degrees.
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I still don't really like the idea that the Daz Bones fight was a Haki thing...But ehh. I think Sanji was definitely using Haki when he uses Dijamble or howerver it's spelled because that's just too strange not to be Haki. Although Leg on fire still makes more sense than limb illusion.
It's like saying Shirahoshi's ability is CoC, but it's not, because she doesn't intimidate Sea Kings.
I think "nice" abilities like befriending and communicating are like the opposite side of the Haki "coin", so to speak.
Haki is used for fighting, and this other "ki" is used for making peace and friends.
The cerebus was "tamed" only so far as it understood that it couldn't fight them and win. It wasn't feeling friendly towards them, and it's arguable that the animals on the island where Luffy trained were more intimidated than friendly as well, lol. The looks on theor faces certainly looked more scared than anything else to me, at least--though I'm happy to see links or pics showing otherwise. I thought that was part of the joke. The only one that got friendly was Surume.
http://i27.mangareader.net/one-piece...ce-2423591.jpg well they look very sad when luffy says good bye to them (with a tear in their eye and all).
Oh yeah, I recall that page. I guess I misinterpretted it. I won't even post more of what I thought it was when I first saw it, LOL. D'oh! Silly me. Thanks for the correction!
I'd assume that Usopp has the colour of observation haki and perhaps he's developed it over the past two years. It would be incredibly useful for a sniper to have and would perhaps account for his uncanny ability to reach unattainable targets that should be impossible with a sling shot. Also, it'd make him less of a weakling compared to the monster trio, though I may miss his cowardly weeping :)
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Well, according to the wiki, every living being has haki. It's just that some are unable to notice it or awaken it.
Usopp would still be considered a normal human, even if he was able to use a little haki.
Usopp gaining some use of Haki would be pretty natural, especially when people can focus it into projectiles. Nothing different than all humans containing Chi in the real world.
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Sovereign Haki... If we go by the logic only the strong willed holds this power. I want Zoro to have it too. And maybe surpass Luffy at that haki line.
I mean, why not? We all know the things Zoro have done and withstand. I actually think Zoro's will power surpasses Luffy's. But he is lacking that Haki DNA anyways so it goes kind of to waste.
It should have been some kind of DNA. By DNA, i don't mean in users' cells literally. But as a some kind of gift that you can't achieve it even if you are more strong willed than CoC users.
Lol yeah Zoro surpassing Luffy is pretty out there, to say the least.
I've said for a long time that I expect Zoro to have kingbition, though, and this chapter encourages me.
Zoro was the perect candidate for CoC and now he most likely has it. But lol at him surpassing Luffy with it. He still will lean towards CoO most I think
Well I definitely wouldn't argue against Zoro having more willpower than Luffy, its just who he is. He is the only member of the crew who consistently trains at every opportunity as well as the one whose gone through the most life threatening battles(besides maybe Usopp). I always get the feeling that with luffy its his carefree attitude that everything will turn out okay that makes him push through rather than 'I won't die because I have a dream.' (Oops I rambled off topic)
Anyways I do not think Zoro would ever be able to surpass Luffy with CoC because i feel that CoC depends more one Luffy's carefree strength of not doubting than pure willpower. I say this because of the other characters who use it, namely Hancock who never doubts herself because she firmly believes herself better than all men.
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After Luffy's feats of willpower through Impel Down and the war I don't see how anyone would think that Zoro has MORE than Luffy. Just... no. Equal, possibly, Zoro at Thriller Bark is not to be taken lightly, but there is no way that he surpasses his captain. I feel that Luffy in moments like this:
Is pretty much at the highest level of pure determination and resolve as we'll ever like to see in OP. And I think that's Oda's intention.
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