is Robin invisible or something?

[onemoment]

Y'knwo, people keep talking about Robin like she's this frail little woman, but have we all frogotten how her copy arms have been able to restrain hordes of large men in the past? She completely grappled Pell into submission, and the only time someone broke free was that zombie with Zoro's shadow.

Don't forget the ability to endure being punched through stone, from the unpopular Yami fight. She's surprisingly strong, certainly above average.

Christ, without her DF she could easily overpower Nami.

[Captain Shmeckie]

Ah, yes, you have a point. Totally frogot about that.

[Pipio]

um i believe that translation is wrong, moria wanted all there shadows but only captured sanji, zoro and luffy first which is what he was talking about when speaking to luffy.

[Herackles]

ah really? That's cool then. I just found it wierd that Oda himself would confirm the fan speculation that Robin is a brick wall. It's all good now.

[Yonkou#3]

Y'knwo, people keep talking about Robin like she's this frail little woman, but have we all frogotten how her copy arms have been able to restrain hordes of large men in the past? She completely grappled Pell into submission, and the only time someone broke free was that zombie with Zoro's shadow.

Entire arabasta army=Fodder
Pell= slightly above fodder
Marines=Fodder
Yama=/ Fodder
Dogpen/Jigorph=/Fodder

Now looking at the non fodder ones, who's robin beaten?

[Angel emfrbl]

Robin was being spurred on during her fight with the big guy in Skypiea bcause he was destroying history. When it comes to that, Usopp, Nami, chopper... Three weakest members... Even they can take being thrown through walls.

Again. No Proof. If not for her DF, she'd be in class with those three. Sh is in the middle Tier of the SHs.

Edit:

response to earlier note: Luffy is strong even without his DF. I can't remember where it was stated maybe in a SBS... With 510 chapters to read through it would take a while to find it. Off the top of my head... Garp revealed why Luffy is strong during his visit at Water 7. His srength was raised then. Therefore if you take away Robin's DF and Luffy's DF and told the two to fight (forget he act they are crew + friends), Luffy would win.

[Mad Wanze]

Robin vs Straw Hats.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/12/

Look at that.

[Herackles]

She is in the middle Tier of the SHs.

you just said "no proof" exactly two sentences before this.

[Captain Brooke]

Don't forget the ability to endure being punched through stone, from the unpopular Yami fight. She's surprisingly strong, certainly above average.

Christ, without her DF she could easily overpower Nami.

You have no proof how strong Robin really is, soooooooo unless you prove it, that's a false statement!

um i believe that translation is wrong, moria wanted all there shadows but only captured sanji, zoro and luffy first which is what he was talking about when speaking to luffy.

Ahh, hope your right about this!

Plus, Robin is a strong character, sometimes, IMO (In my opinion) she can slip into the top trio!

Uh, that scanlation is a bit wrong on the text.

From Stephen's scripts:



Moria was not "after just three of the Strawhats". He said he had caught three Strarhats. He was not after just a few members of the crew. He did not even know who Sanji was! (And that's why he put Sanji's shadow in Dogpen, and not some stronger zombie).

Ah, that clears up a lot!

[pyromonki]

Robin vs Straw Hats.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/12/

Look at that.

That wasn't a fight, if you think Robin would've of won, you're fucking crazy.

She'd beat everyone, except for Zoro and Luffy.

And Luffy pushed 2 buildings apart, with no momentum, what the HELL do you mean he needs his DF?

Robin's only top tier when fighting normal people with average strength. Other wise, she's middle and lower, EVERYONE's like that in the One Piece world. >_>

Sanji's far more dangerous though, he has his anger and dreams that fuel his battle strength, Robin has survival....

[SeriusReader]

That wasn't a fight, if you think Robin would've of won, you're fucking crazy.

She'd beat everyone, except for Zoro and Luffy.

And Luffy pushed 2 buildings apart, with no momentum, what the HELL do you mean he needs his DF?

Robin's only top tier when fighting normal people with average strength. Other wise, she's middle and lower, EVERYONE's like that in the One Piece world. >_>

Sanji's far more dangerous though, he has his anger and dreams that fuel his battle strength, Robin has survival....

But when it comes against women... lol.

[Captain Shmeckie]

Fodder or not, have we all forgotten that she managed to overpower, restrain, and BREAK a massive man with herculean strength? Talkin' 'bout Enel's fat-ass general. The weaker members have pulled through some shit, sure, but nothing like that.

Robin's a beast. As long as she can do that hand guesture, anyway.

[Mad Wanze]

She'd beat everyone, except for Zoro and Luffy.

Only reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiTPVUFfyAo

[Gekko135]

It seems this thread has spun out of control into a "How strong is Robin compared to the rest of the Straw Hats" conversation.

Robin vs Straw Hats.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/12/

Look at that.

When in Rome...

yeah.. caught the straw hats off guard is what it seems to be (good chapter). This was the first time they really saw her power. The element of surprise is an interesting thing. To beat most people she needs to use that. It would be CRUCIAL!

Think she could stop one of Usopp's ammo after it's been fired? (especially if he was fighting with the same fury as when he fought Luffy?). Think she could contain Arm Point? (Chopper could easily shrink and grow to evade a proper grab attack by her). A 100 pound cannon or any sort of sword projectile? (it's already been proven that Zoro seems strong enough to break out of her grip). Sanji doesn't apply. ALL of franky's weapons? I wouldn't really know about brooke. Nami wouldn't really apply either, cause she really needs surprise for many of her strong attacks. And she could never hope to contain Luffy.

I'm not hating on Robin though. She's become INDISPENSABLE to the crew as back-up in a fight (support and add-ons to other's attacks. Or for a quick saving of someone's ass). It's really where she belongs in a fight. Her strength lies in her ability to observe while the front lines are being taken care of (which in turn maximizes the effectiveness of her abilities. This has been shown in the Moria and recent Kuma battles). But i'm referring to the opponents who are really really strong. Against normal Marines in massive groups she is untouchable.

Anyhoo... here's a Robin fan who's hoping she gets a one-on-one duel soon. There are many possibilities.

[Satanstorm]

The point of her having such a high bounty is just becouse she is the last Ohara scientist and coz she can read porneglyphs. If she would have a bounty coz of her strenght it would not be anything near 80 mio, But she is strong. Her strenght is a fact, but she just can"t compare to the monster trio.

[Angel emfrbl]

Robin vs Straw Hats.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/114/12/

Look at that.

1) They were caught off guard (didn't expect a DF user)
2) She still hasn't fought without her DF.

Also... The thing is it has been stated Nami, Usopp and Chopper are overall the weakest three back somewhere in Thriller Bark (and Usopp has been noted to be the weakest or have you forgotten what his problem was in W7 was in the first place). Therefore, Robin with DF is somewhere between the Monster Trio and the weak three. The "middle Tier" (monster trio "top tier", Weak Trio "lower tier").

[Deicide]

Well, I think Robin is a little overrated. She is not weak, yes, but it is her DF that is too strong (and she uses it for maximum eficiency). However, I never forgot that, after she defeated Pell, Pell later returned to fight, and said that "Now that I know what you can do, I'm prepared to face you" or something like that. I think that strong fighters who know what she can do can fight her (I'm not saying Pell would be able to defeat her, specially since he was hurt from his earlier defeat).

[pyromonki]

Only reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiTPVUFfyAo

Actually, it's because Luffy and Zoro are about equal in strength, so though Luffy doesn't have to break out of her grasp, he still freakin' can. He's that beastly.

[brennen.exe]

She could easily overpower Nami.

PLEASE!
Robin. Pfft. Never.

Hidden:

Chopper: Lightning!! That attack...It worked!! He's on his knees!!

Look at that.

PLEASE!
Tripping someone != pwn
Tripping someone = 0mgze yuz knt splee sux0r ide0tz!!

[Deltron 3030]

Y'knwo, people keep talking about Robin like she's this frail little woman, but have we all frogotten how her copy arms have been able to restrain hordes of large men in the past? She completely grappled Pell into submission, and the only time someone broke free was that zombie with Zoro's shadow.

No were talking like she isn't on the combat level of Sanji, Luffy, and Zoro.

Because she isn't.

At all.