Next Crew Member Speculation (Ver 3.0)

[grunk]

I'm still banking if there's a new character soon it'll be someone fuckwin from ID..

There is going to be a plethora of awesome new characters introduced in the next few months so it's hard to look to the past for one with so many coming soon.. with that said what kind of character would fit into the crew now? And what of the old question of which kind of positions could be filled now? I think they need a hardcore anti-government dissident guy myself.

[onemoment]

The next SH will either be an old lady, a young woman similar to Nami or Vivi in age, or a young man similar to Sanji or Zoro or Luffy in age. The true pattern in SHs joining has been filling family roles. It's part of this long theory I have about how the SHs are a family system and how it effects who has joined and even their characters. Robin covers the role of "mother," and Franky covers the role of "father" even though Luffy is the leader of the ship. Brooke's the gramps, and everyone else is either a brother or sister. It'll take too long to go over how every SH fills this role, so I'll just cover Franky and Robin and hope everyone can figure how the rest fits. First, he's the oldest next to Brooke. As the shipwright he in a way owns the ship (or home) similar to the breadwinner of a family, despite not being captain. He's as strong as any of the other men in the crew, but due to their (zoro luffy etc) age, youth, and agility (or rather their fluid and versatile fighting styles) Franky is just out of their league similar to a father being overtaken by his older sons. And of course, Franky's flashback heavily features the theme of fatherhood. Similarly, Robin's flashback covers motherhood through its heavy focus on Robin's abandonment by her mother Olivia. I also dare say her personality is motherly. Look at her whenever the boys are doing something stupid. She laughs, similar to a mother enjoying watching her children play. She is also a constant source of advice thanks to her knowledge of the world, and I believe it's a cliche for children to ask their mother questions as opposed to the father. And I could go on, but I'll quickly point out Sanji and Zoro's rivalry. They are the two oldest brothers in the group, and as such are in constant competition for the role of top brother (Luffy meanwhile, is the middle child, which according to the cliche means he's a weird one right?). It's also a reason why they're the "strong trio," as in any family the oldest brothers tend to be the strongest.

So, that's my big theory. I would have liked to go over every aspect of how each SH fits into their family role, but this post is already too long as it is. But that's how I view any potential new crew mates. It has to been an old lady (grandma), or another brother or sister. Come to think of it, wasn't there something about the SHs as a family in an SBS?

And that is actually my major problem with Hancock joining. She seems to be about Robin's age, so it would break the family theme. We can't have two mothers now. I guess she could be an "aunt" but aunt's are technically members of a new family. So I don't think she'll join, unless we discover she's over 40 or something. In that case I'm all for it. But, the next time we see a cool old lady befriend the SHs, THAT'S who I'm banking will be the new member.

And to anyone who mentions Sanji's perversions towards Nami, or Hancocks perversions towards Luffy, remember, they aren't literally related.

[brennen.exe]

Originally Posted by grunk

I think when they said Jinbei and Arlong were on the same level they meant politically amongst the Fishmen. Sengoku was pining about not having him to help.

I suggested as much before, and used quotes around the word for the same reason. I don't doubt that Jinbei is strong, which is why I made the comparison to Kaidou/Moria in my last post and my suggestion that he is equal to Moria/Hancock/Crocodile in terms of standing amongst the Shichibukai. What irks me is the over-glorified image Jinbei has since his name has existed for years and he has not yet been revealed in full. My point is that, while he very well might be ridiculously powerful, we have no idea whether or not he is. ALL we know is that he was on equal standing with Arlong, which was used as a way to instill fear into Sanji and Luffy, so at the least he shouldn't be leagues above Arlong. This is similar to Moria/Kaidou. They were once "equal", but we all know he will be stronger than Moria. But leagues? The once-comparison wouldn't make sense. As for Sengoku, he just wants all the help he can get. Surely Jinbei is more powerful than Arlong, no doubt. Like I said though, we do not know how much. He could very well be the weakest Shichibukai. Either way, he was taken down by the Marines and tossed in prison for now; it isn't a wonder that Sengoku would like the extra help he could give, but the fact that he was caught should speak for itself that he isn't godlike.

Originally Posted by Zik

Damn this thread went downhill after my request in my last post.

It happens in all threads. This one has more potential though, which is why I "regretfully" opened it back up. It is meant for valid speculation with something of support behind the theory, so hopefully we get more of it. If not, locked it will become.

Originally Posted by Moria

Considering this thread is just a fucking dumpster for aborted predictions, I'll just spew out a few characters I would have liked to join.

Just because a few people like to throw out their opinion like wildfire doesn't mean you have to join in and throw things off topic even more. If that's what you want, read the bottom of the first post and "learn from mistakes". A hint: Here is what you were looking for.

Originally Posted by RobinotX

*see Kokoro*

No thanks. *pukes*

[.access timeco.]

Yeah, there was. Oda already stated long ago that everyone in the crew fits a family spot.
To complete the crew, I was hoping for an uncle (Buggy) and a grandmother (an old fishwoman... not mermaid, sry Kokoro). I am kinda sure an old woman will come at some point, I just hope she will actually look old.

[Crossword]

If you do the math based on the figures we got involving Hancock and her sisters being captured by slavers, her age comes out to 27.

[Zik]

^^^^Ummm I'm not sure about the reasons for why you put who as what in that family system theory but it sounds a lot like an answer Oda gave in an SBS where I think the question was something like "If the SHs were a family who would be what?" or something like that. This was asked before Brook joined I think so he wasn't included and basically Robin and Franky were the parents and everyone else were siblings in order of age.

I don't really see how it tells us who will be next nakama tho lol. I mean the current SHs "as a family" don't fit any other family model I've seen so I wouldn't know what else it needs. Unless you're saying Brook is the grandfather and they would need an old lady as grandmother. If anything I'd guess a little sister and since there's two more expected nakama add in another brother either in his 20s or Nami's age.

[grunk]

I'd rather they didn't get an old lady..that would kinda slow them down.. a 'grandpa' is enough.
They might be needing someone from the new world soon too. Someone that can help with new threats. Maybe even a level 6er.

[nicotorrent]

NO to the Old Lady. Who they need now is someone SUPER STRONG.

They're going to have to take on Yonkou's and more admirals when they reach the New World. Right now? They really only have Zoro & Luffy who can battle one-on-one. We need one/two more fighters like that who can take on someone super strong one-on-one. In that case, I can kind of see Hancock joining as the strong but "selfish" younger sister. The person who has a mean exterior but a real sensitive shell on the inside, you know? Jinbei can also serve as the "selfish" brother, who is mean to the younger brothers, but is generally a sweetheart, but it's less likely, I think. The main reasons why I think they are a plausible (not not necessarily likely) addition:

1) The SH need some STRONG strong fighters. Except Luffy and Zoro, the other members aren't really fighters. Sanji and Nico are strong, but they can't taken down an admiral/anything. We need a strong, famed character that can assist Luffy and Zoro in taking a major fighter. Jinbei/Hancock can take this role. But also, any fighters in Level 5/6. I think someone from Level 6 will play a key role in the stroy, but I think this person will be too old to join the SHs.

2) We need characters with substance/something anti-government. Someone who is politically charged. Hancock, for instance, has a history as being a slave and her goal can be making the world a slave-free place. Her goal doesn't have to deal with Luffy, but in fixing her tragic past. She wants to create a world safe for all people--and she can join the SH and achieve it. Same with Jinbei; his history isn't known, but there's probably reason why he's in jail.

However, some plots/questions that Oda's going to have to fix before allowing anybody, esp Hancock/Jinbei to join:
1) The fact that their loyalty will probably ONLY lie with Luffy--not the other SHs. All the SH are willing to risk their lives for Luffy and also, FOR EACH OTHER. Something's going to have to happen if Hancock joins that makes her trust/be willing to die with and for the other crew members. Same goes for Jinbei.
2) Also, people who are used be being ridiculously strong...are they going to take orders? Hancock loves Luffy so that can overcome her pride, but Jinbei's used to be being a LEADER himself. Is he going to follow orders?
3) And another thing if Hancock joins. If Hancock stops working with the Gov, Amazon Lily will be open to attacks. I think her sisters will be able to handle it, but something's going to have to happen that makes Hancock choose to travel with the SH instead of her family/island. Maybe a tearful scene where her sisters/people tell her she'll die otherwise, or that she needs to follow her dream of making the world a slave free place or something.

SO. Like I said before, Luffy needs a strong fighter if he wants to survive in the New World. As of right now, they don't have nearly enough fighters. I think they're going to get A STRONG fighter next who is on par with Zoro or Luffy (ie from Level 5 or 6, with a 80+ mil bounty). I think it'd be a girl, because Sanji and Zoro are the strongest male fighters, and they have alot of competition between them. An addition of a female fighter who ate a Gum Gum (like Hancock) would balance the gender dynamic and get rid of the idea that the girls are weak. But then again, another guy...who's just good at martial arts or something with another Devil Fruit..that sounds good too.

So in that respect, NO old people and NO BUGGY. Buggy's WEAK and would serve no purpose by being in the SH's. He'd be a weak addition, and would only cause drama. He'd be funny, but....I don't like weaklings.

[onemoment]

The SHs don't "need" a strong person. Whoever it is, whether Ace or Hancock, will job to enemies all the same. And Luffy will fight the boss.

Now Brooke, HE was a great addition to the crew and not for his relatively low strength. He's an experienced pirate who dedicated to the create, and it willing to give everything he has at a moments notice. Brooke's great, right? And in the future, it's guys like him that will make the difference. After all, hasn't it been speculated that the crew will get stronger? Perona, now despite her strength she'd sell out the crew when times get tough (yes, I hate Perona for nakama theories).

Anyway, my point is that character is important. With a strong character, strength will come. So no, the SHs don't need to recruit the strongest guy in the area. That's dumb.


Also, I think people are underestimating how cool and old lady can be. Has everyone forgotten Dr. Kureha? Oda can surely make someone as cool as that again.

Edit: Oh yeah nicotorrent, and Hancock can't be a "younger" sister when she's older then Robin, much less Nami.

[nicotorrent]

Originally Posted by onemoment

With a strong character, strength will come. So no, the SHs don't need to recruit the strongest guy in the area. That's dumb.

Right, I'm not saying that the SH's are going to intentionally recruit the strongest person, but that the next nakama they recruit will probably be one of the strongest, in terms of power/story line, as it's likely to be someone from the prision/the deeper levels.

Right now, the crew is strong in the terms of their relationship and in their respective positions, but they could really use a hand to make sure their asses aren't kicked in the New World with stronger pirates. :) Just my two cents.

(PS. Yes, the Perona for Nakama theories are kind of ridiculous.)

[Zik]

Also, I think people are underestimating how cool and old lady can be. Has everyone forgotten Dr. Kureha? Oda can surely make someone as cool as that again.

She wasn't cool lol, more like experienced and I wouldn't want anyone like her for nakama. I really don't get the whole old lady for nakama thing other than it fitting your theory. Even if Oda did give us an old lady for nakama it'd only be in age and she'd probably look younger than Shakky did.

Anyway, my point is that character is important. With a strong character, strength will come.

This is one of the main things I've been trying to stress when it comes to the next nakama. Although a person Luffy level wouldn't hurt when it comes to the crew going forward in strength.

[Zkaiser]

At first Perona is going to try and impel Zoro into subservience with her negative hollows. After a while Zoro is going to start being able to resist negativation. Perona will be shocked that someone is able to resist her negative hollow with sheer willpower alone, let alone someone from the same crew as the first to do so. She then has a change of heart/character when she sees Zoro struggle through his pain and emotions to get back to his crew to protect them. After letting Zoro go, she finds that he has the worst sense of direction ever when he ends up at the castle door two hours later. Perona is then able to find a way off the island and decides to accompany him back to the Sabaody Archipelago.

[onemoment]

Originally Posted by Zik

She wasn't cool lol, more like experienced and I wouldn't want anyone like her for nakama. I really don't get the whole old lady for nakama thing other than it fitting your theory. Even if Oda did give us an old lady for nakama it'd only be in age and she'd probably look younger Shakky did.

This is one of the main things I've been trying to stress when it comes to the next nakama. Although a person Luffy level wouldn't hurt when it comes to the crew going forward in strength.

Well, I actually feel the same way. Let me clarify! I think an old lady will join the crew, BUT to appease fickle male fans it will probably be a hot old lady. A gilf if you will.

About Kureha, I meant her kick butt attitude and ability to kick ass. That was cool. But, no, I wouldn't want someone exactly like that. Kureha's just the best example of what a cool old lady might be like.

*Meanwhile, I shake my fist at Zkaiser*

[Zkaiser]

Is good, right?

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[Zik]

Originally Posted by Zkaiser

At first Perona is going to try and impel Zoro into subservience with her negative hollows. After a while Zoro is going to start being able to resist negativation. Perona will be shocked that someone is able to resist her negative hollow with sheer willpower alone, let alone someone from the same crew as the first to do so. She then has a change of heart/character when she sees Zoro struggle through his pain and emotions to get back to his crew to protect them. After letting Zoro go, she finds that he has the worst sense of direction ever when he ends up at the castle door two hours later. Perona is then able to find a way off the island and decides to accompany him back to the Sabaody Archipelago.

LOL, if you added some hint of Perona having a crush on him for resisting her DF powers on will power alone and then have her reveal her (tragic sad) past you'd have a parallel(well a carbon copy) with what happened with Hancock/Luffy and the thing is I wouldn't be surprised if Oda did some variation of it....

[grunk]

Perona might fly Zoro back (hell if he's gonna get there himself).. but I don't think she'll join..

What I'd LOVE to see is a hardcore rebel chick maybe one of Dragon's people.. with like a tank girl attitude.. I think Luffy would get along with someone like that.. who'd have experience in the New World and the dangers there and knows strategics against newer threats and have a bad ass devil fruit or fighting style.

[Squilly]

I'm interested to see what new characters would join the crew, but I really think they need to fill a role. Almost all of the crewmembers joined after the crew said, 'We need a ___'. Then they'd have to convince the person they conveniently found next to join, because they needed that role to be filled. If someone joined with no immediate purpose, they soon show they have the skills to perform a certain role. Zoro's special, 'cause he's the first mate, but Usopp joins just 'cause he and the rest of the crew were close now. Soon after that, he's officially named the sharpshooter after he shows skills in that area. Robin asked to join the crew and said she was an archaeologist and soon after proved she was a reliable source of information. Brook was asked to join just 'cause Luffy thought he was interesting, but then showed he was a musician, whom Luffy had wanted since day one, which makes him determined to get him to join.

What I'm trying to say is mostly crewmembers join when the rest of the crew specifically say that they need a role to be filled. If they don't hold that 'meeting' beforehand, then the crewmember that joined shows some sort of skill so they are assigned a role. I'm trying to think up possible roles to fill if Jinbei or Hancock or whoever joined the crew, but I'm drawing up a blank. We don't even need a specific helmsman anymore because Franky or someone else just use the wheel. This may be a bad example, but Vivi was looking like she would join the crew but stayed behind for her country. (Kinda a relief for me, but anyway...) I sat down and thought about it. If Vivi had joined, how would she be useful? She has no specific skills except for maybe public speaking.... which would not be useful at all. She isn't very good at fighting either. Whenever she had to fight, she would always come off as pathetic, so that's a no-go. She would just be baggage. Now I know, the crew is close to her and they would love to have her on the chip even if she was useless, but they're current mindset would be 'Can we really afford that if we're gonna be going to the New World?' Especially with that huge Wham Episode we just went through, I'm thinking we're gonna need a useful person that can take care of themselves. And since there are no current roles to be filled, I doubt someone's gonna join any time soon.

[Zkaiser]

Originally Posted by Zik

LOL, if you added some hint of Perona having a crush on him for resisting her DF powers on will power alone and then have her reveal her (tragic sad) past you'd have a parallel(well a carbon copy) with what happened with Hancock/Luffy and the thing is I wouldn't be surprised if Oda did some variation of it....

FUCK!
I forgot the tragic past. I was going to throw in the crush but I feared that someone would bring up Hancock. (Thanks a lot)

Tragic Past: Was a poor child in West Blue. Her family abandoned her Hansel-style for economic reasons. From this she gains abandonment issues. She finds the Horo-Horo fruit and uses it to get what she wants. She uses the stuffed animals to replace the family that left her.

[grunk]

Not all of the SH joined after they needed something it's usually one an arc.. though this might be an odd one out like Skypea but with all the folks in ID I'd be surprised if they dont pick someone up.
Boa is kind of a Vivi V2.0 now that I think about it.. I just kinda like her.. Jinbei would make an awesome ally and maybe have their backs in Fishman Island but I dunno about him.
None of em probably have the SH demeanor the rest of em do.

Anyway, Tank Girl-like hardcore rebel locked in ID for F-ing shit up New World Guide for Nakama ^_^

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[Zkaiser]

She's drawn by Jamie Hewlett of The Gorillaz, right?