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    Gintama reached its peak with the Farewell Shinsengumi arc. and began its downfall with the Shouyou/Utsuro revelation. Poor thing has been in a walking dead state for years now, like it used to be my number one and now I can't remember last time I read a chapter. Anyway, it's time.

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    I can understand that. I think the Shouyou/Utsoro revelation was fine. It could've been handled poorly but it wasn't. My issue is this epilogue feels really unneededed. The battle against Utsuro felt complete and ended in a great way. Yet it just keeps going.

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    Disagree on how "needed" the epilogue was. These characters deserve more than the "Final Fantasy" aproach that was mocked when this exercise started. While Utsuro and Takatsugi could have just died back then and this is just a reunion arc (and without a serious coure this epilogue would have ended already), this is completelly in the spirit of Gintama, of mocking your expectations, and going one notch over the top again.

    Besides, Sorachi is less than 7 chapters away to have more chapters than Naruto and Bleach, with that goal in sight it would be anti-shonen jump not to go the extra mile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxterdexter View Post
    Disagree on how "needed" the epilogue was. These characters deserve more than the "Final Fantasy" aproach that was mocked when this exercise started. While Utsuro and Takatsugi could have just died back then and this is just a reunion arc (and without a serious coure this epilogue would have ended already), this is completelly in the spirit of Gintama, of mocking your expectations, and going one notch over the top again.

    Besides, Sorachi is less than 7 chapters away to have more chapters than Naruto and Bleach, with that goal in sight it would be anti-shonen jump not to go the extra mile.
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    Haha, at this point I think they're just surpassing Naruto and Bleach in length and will then end it not long after. It will be weird to see it gone from the WSJ roster. The oldest thing after, of course, OP and HxH will be Haikyuu!! from 2012. 2012! So many series have finished in the last 3-4 years, it's kind of sad. Kochikame, Naruto, Bleach, Toriko, Beelzebub, Ansatsu Kyoshitsu, and so on. Most of them ended quite badly, unfortunately...
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    Toriko at least had its two great final chapter, the weeding and the space gun touched upon everything that was good about the series.

    Assclass wasn't perfect but it was the series with the least mistakes

    Bleach got screwed by Kubo trying to screw over the editorial department

    Naruto, besides the post war orgy caused marriages, was fine, a little less good for the need of launching Boruto instead of ending, but as an ending it was OK.

    I am sad that I can't remember Beelzebub ending. There was something about human generals and the demon world and furukishi and demon powered tissues and a wall of demon seals.. But nothing concrete...
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    Sorry, Naruto's ending was... fine? Not on my book. Everything about the war and after was utter crap that didn't make any sense anymore. But to each his own. Toriko may have had one or 2 good final chapters, but for a long time before those, the series degenerated to such a sorry point that it wasn't even funny anymore. Kind of like what's happened to Soma as of late. AssassClass was as close to a perfect shonen Jump series as I remember. Short, sweet, to the point. Did not deviate a bit from its original concept, kept faithful to its themes and goals... Great. I compare it to Neverland and Dr. Stone now, but still hold it in a higher regard than the latter 2.
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    It looks like Gintama possibly going to end within 5 chapters.

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    Is this like last time that climax got misstranslated as conclusion or we got a proper countdown this time?
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    Caught up after a 100~ chapter hiatus.

    Not sure how I felt about the main action arc. On one hand, we got a lot of cool and funny moments (I fucking lost my mind at Elizabeth's origins). On the other hand, I think it ran into the same pacing problems Bleach's final arc did in that it tried to give every character a moment, which just ended up slowing things to a crawl. Also I HATED Enshou. One of my least favorite manga villains in a while, although him being so bad just made it even sweeter when Takasugi finally cut him up.

    I love this current arc though. Nearly every major joke lands, the story is more interesting, good closure for a lot of characters. Just a great, classic Gintama arc. I'm not sure how Sorachi's going to wrap this up in 3 chapters, but I can't wait.
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    So, it's two chapters to go? It is kind of short. It's technically 3 chapters as the last one is very likelly going to be extra lenght.

    We needed this Madao chapter, and the Shinsengumi clousure, besides the Shojo resolution, Takasugi's final fight and the yorozuya reunion, I'd like to see a conclusion to Tama's and Sadaharu's plots at the very least.
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    Spoiler:
    This weekís chapter is the final chapter of Gintama..... in Weekly Shonen Jump. The series will continue to itís conclusion in Jump Giga.

    Iím really glad this happened. Classic Sorachi trolling. Thereís also going to be one last character popularity poll
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    No bloody way. That is indeed quite the troll It shouldn't take that much longer either way, I wonder who came up with this idea...
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    So Sorachi thought he could end this arc till August and that's what he told Jump so they made arrangements for that but as the arc went on he realized he needed more chapters to properly end Gintama which is why rest of it will continue in Giga.
    Looks like Sorachi wanted to end the series sooner.

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    That's why I wanted the exact wording five weeks ago.

    Excelent.
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    The final Jump Page.

    See you in december space gorilla.

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    Ahahahah I don't even read Gintama but that grandpa stubbornly not wanting to die analogy is perhaps one of the greatest explanations I've ever seen written anywhere. It's beautiful. So he's moving to a carehome now, called Jump GIGA, and is finally leaving the house. But those pesky kids that don't come visit him aren't gonna get any inheriance! Ahh such a troll, I love it.
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    Yup, gotta love Sorachi's humour! So, can anyone explain to me what Jump GIGA's schedule is?
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    It is awful, that is what it is.

    Aparently the next issue is in december.

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    I have to write them something pretty for the effort and quality that they have brought Gintama to the world. Kwel used to come here more often.
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    Just started rereading this series I never really got super far into it but I saw a video on top 10 anime arcs, and they had the shogun assassination arc pretty high up there, so I decided I'd read the whole thing this time

    but all I want to know is, is it really that good, like one of the best shonen arcs?

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