If you spoiler me, I will eat you with tater tots.
Ok, I'll bite. I like how hater-haters always assume people dislike Hancock for being weak and female, when it's actually because she has a sucky personality and is insulting to females.
For me it wouldn't matter one jot if she tore a ship in two next chapter.
It's kinda funny that people take her bad qualities so seriously when as of late she has been acting more normal, and before her bad qualities seemed to be quirks done for comedy/parody, I mean come on how could anyone take that crap seriously when she's kicking baby seals?
Maybe I'll backtrack and look through her tourney threads in a minute, there's not too many pages to go through there
Its implying that she's less than other characters of her same rank, that she only got there because of her looks, as some have implied in negative campaigning. I so, SO want that to NOT be the case.
Fleshing out the personality and growing from whats there, and slowly ditching the ice queen facade while ALSO toning down the over the top in love comedy bits... will take longer and have to be done gradually.
I hated Usopp for the longest time, and now he's my favorite due to the growth and change and insights we got into his personality over time that peeked through the facade he put on.
I realize its a shonen manga, but I'm tired of the female characters *always* being sidelined and weaker and more shallow, just because they're female.
But then, along with death, a bit of sexism seems to be creeping in as one of Oda's weakness. Between the Robin bondage, Nami near rape, Cindry servitude... and god, the Nami/Kalipha fight was one of the absolute worst things the series has ever done...
it boils down to, if Boa is going to be in the series for any length of time, she needs to be much better than she is right now, and I hope Oda can deliver on that eventually.
Last edited by RobbyBevard; August 19th, 2009 at 02:15 PM.
I don't really dislike Hancock and I am quite indifferent towards her right now, but I do see where Hancock haters come from. I also can see why Hancock acts like a bitch most of the time (breaking the statue the children made for her was uncalled for though :[) as it's her 'defence' (which was dropped rather easily for Luffy...ahem...we'll blame it on wuv) but we've seen other female characters with tragic pasts and they don't act as bitchy as she does. I am not saying she should be the same as those characters but I would find her much better if she didn't act so arrogant. I am still waiting to see more of her character but I sure as hell ain't impressed from what was shown till now.
Thanks Shmeckie! O:
Hancock is the "icequeen waiting to defrost". I mean, her arrogance has been so over the top, how can you even take it seriously? She looks down on people so much she looks up? She tells everyone repeatedly she can do whatever she wants because she is beautiful? Cute animals keep being placed in front of her feet just for her to kick? Get it..
Eh. I went and backtracked after all. From the Hatchan vs. Hancock thread, pretty early in. Shinpaman and Shmeckie respectivley.
What you don't understand is Hancock is not fanservice in the physical sense alone. Her entire character is fanservice. She could have been one of the strongest and most compelling female characters in One Piece yet but instead she's a fragile little girl hiding behind a bitchy exterior who essentially becomes a teenage boy's love slave. She's not a character, she's a fantasy. That really just stomps all over the female characters in One Piece that are actally worthwhile.Hear-hear! And to add my own slice of wisdom, I may again add that the woman does not belong amongst the Warlords! She has probably the most gimpable power in all of One Piece, with a completely one-note schtick, while the other Warlords are human freakin' gods with versitile uses for their power. She's among the strongest swordsman in the world, an island-crushing cyborg, a master of trickery and an army of shadows and undead minions, a guy that controls gravity and disables all Devil Fruit power, a guy that just straight-up takes control of your body, and up until recently, a frikkin' Logia master!
As I have said before, she's the Raditz of the Shichibukai.
Really, REALLY hope Oda adresses and fixes these glaring flaws in her character. She has a looooot of redeeming to do. Put her on the powerhouse level WITHOUT sexy attacks is the first, easiest step. So far, the only things we've seen from her ARE the sexy attacks, so we can't judge anything else. Having a few abiltiies not tied to her looks will go a long way.
A nice big nasty scar on her cheek or something like ruining her beauty would help her character growth in a hurry. It doesn't help that so far BOTH of her personalities have been opposite ends of the cliche spectrum.
We'll see, I guess.
Last edited by RobbyBevard; August 19th, 2009 at 02:20 PM.
So I agree with Robby that all it'll take is her owning to turn it around.
Now true stereotypical characters to hate are those like Marin from DBZ and at times Orihime from Bleach.
Last edited by HaxeyeMihawk; August 19th, 2009 at 02:16 PM.
Plus she's llikely the strongest currently known female in OP and even though many hate that she fell for Luffy, atleast it was because he was an understanding, nice person, not some stereotypical prince charming. Or worse like Alvida, who fell in love because he hit her... look at that message, yikes!
lots of panties in a twist in here
This is freaking Zoro, no shame in any character losing to him, he excretes epicness. Just the usual Hancock hate and stereotype talk gets annoying when to me she seems more like the dangerous, beautiful sorceresses from Conan rather than your typical fanservice manga ditz.
This better not go down the boobs road of discussion
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