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[Malintex_Terek]

Studying abroad tends to be more expensive than even attending the college, and can be a danger as well if you take the wrong classes. A relative of mine studied for a year over in The Netherlands, but he didn't get credited for that year because none of the classes he took were accepted by his major adviser (the whole trip was apparently a waste, due to some kind of miscommunication).

Japan or other countries with a language barrier is not as intimidating as you'd imagine, depending on where you go. Me, I'd love to go to Sweden, but none of my concentrations have any real use there.

Now if I majored in CS...

[Palochka]

UCs are pretty fudged up atm, better to hang out at a CSU or CCC.

We may have our share of problems, but I'm taking more units than all my friends at CSUs currently and they're on the semester system. There are no classes, especially at SJSU, CSU, and SFSU. I never have problems getting into classes at my UC and yeah, we're getting a price hike, but at least we're getting proper education and not on the five-year plan for any major, like San Jose State is now (though there's the problem of them trying to convert to a UC mixed in there).

I got into every school I applied to which isn't saying much and now I'm at a high-ranked UC and loving every second of it. I'm an English major so I just dick around a lot, have a light workload, and enjoy the hell out of all my classes. I hope to go to grad school later so I can be a professor or something along those lines.

[sanji499]

The fees will increase for any universities in the US. Thanks to the government giving tax payers money to corrupt corporation leaders.

I have a friend who has to work 10 hours a days for 6 days a week. 60 hours of work mandatory and unpaid additional hours because he has to pay for useless government programs and reforms, paying the mortgages of people who should have never got them in the first places and the bonuses to corrupt corporation leaders and so on.

I am afraid the situation will get even worse with the US debt. A second house buble is coming.

Hold on to your butts everyone.

Good advice: Save money and use it wisely. Do not listen to main stream media economic show. They give very bad advices. Invest in commodities if you have enough money to invest.

[Akumu]

The fees will increase for any universities in the US. Thanks to the government giving tax payers money to corrupt corporation leaders.

I have a friend who has to work 10 hours a days for 6 days a week. 60 hours of work mandatory and unpaid additional hours because he has to pay for useless government programs and reforms, paying the mortgages of people who should have never got them in the first places and the bonuses to corrupt corporation leaders and so on.

I am afraid the situation will get even worse with the US debt. A second house buble is coming.

Hold on to your butts everyone.

Good advice: Save money and use it wisely. Do not listen to main stream media economic show. They give very bad advices. Invest in commodities if you have enough money to invest.

When did this become an economics discussion.
But any way, you're wrong.
Through expansionary fiscal policy (tax cuts and increase in government spending) total output will increase which will lead into aggregate demand increasing, which in the long run will increase RealGDP.
This works because the tax cuts leave the Average American family with more money, thus making them feel wealthier. As a whole, this leads Americans to go out and buy more, thus stimulating the economy and increasing the overall aggreagate demand. This shift in production will lead to a higher RGDP.
This is what the government is doing, and is all they can do, we Americans have to do the rest.
If you want to continue this, we'll move it to a more appropriate thread.

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ON TOPIC:
@Malintex_Terek: While it is more expensive, I think it would be an awesome experience. I for one would love to go to JApan for a couple of months. Maybe start learning the language while I'm there. Who knows, maybe I will, maybe I won't.

[wolfwoof]

The concept of paying for College education just blows my mind.

Really makes me realize just how lucky i am.

[Wagomu]

I only applied for two colleges, but it was all very early. I applied for early decision at RPI and rolling at Drexel. Got into both and was presented a scholarship for Drexel if I were to attend, but Drexel was only a backup (and I had a better scholarship for RPI, anyways). I am very excited to study mechanical engineering there

[Animesoccer]

I only applied for two colleges, but it was all very early. I applied for early decision at RPI and rolling at Drexel. Got into both and was presented a scholarship for Drexel if I were to attend, but Drexel was only a backup (and I had a better scholarship for RPI, anyways). I am very excited to study mechanical engineering there

Congrats on the acceptance and the scholarship

[Akumu]

The concept of paying for College education just blows my mind.

Really makes me realize just how lucky i am.

Yeah it's funny how hypocritical our education is. They tell us that we have to have a higher education so that we can better our country, but then they make it near impossible for some people. When you leave school with tens of thousands of dollars in debt (some people even reach into the hundreds of thousands) it's really hard to do anything proactive for your country.

Fixing the education system is one of the reasons I considered politics. However I decided that I was over qualified for the job because I actually know what I'm talking about.

"Politics: from the Latin Poly (meaning many) and Tics (bloodsucking creatures)"
--Robin Williams

[Wagomu]

Congrats on the acceptance and the scholarship

Thank you. I can't wait to pursue education that I care about for a change, haha.

[wolfwoof]

When you leave school with tens of thousands of dollars in debt (some people even reach into the hundreds of thousands) it's really hard to do anything proactive for your country.

Damn, how can anyone afford that. After 5 years fulltime studies my loans for housing, books, clothing and food would amount to just about 40K with interest included. And i think that's a shitload of money.

[Akumu]

Damn, how can anyone afford that. After 5 years fulltime studies my loans for housing, books, clothing and food would amount to just below 40K with interest included. And i think that's a shitload of money.

^^That's what my fees are going to be after 3 years, and I'm going to a really cheap school.

I guess people can afford it because they have a lifetime to pay it back, and if they die before it's paid off, they have next of kin who will be forced by law to pay it off for them.

[sanji499]

When did this become an economics discussion.
But any way, you're wrong.
Through expansionary fiscal policy (tax cuts and increase in government spending) total output will increase which will lead into aggregate demand increasing, which in the long run will increase RealGDP.
This works because the tax cuts leave the Average American family with more money, thus making them feel wealthier. As a whole, this leads Americans to go out and buy more, thus stimulating the economy and increasing the overall aggreagate demand. This shift in production will lead to a higher RGDP.
This is what the government is doing, and is all they can do, we Americans have to do the rest.
If you want to continue this, we'll move it to a more appropriate thread.

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ON TOPIC:
@Malintex_Terek: While it is more expensive, I think it would be an awesome experience. I for one would love to go to JApan for a couple of months. Maybe start learning the language while I'm there. Who knows, maybe I will, maybe I won't.

I have seen in the news students going wild in the UC's or even the CSU's.
Personally with 700 billion dollars flowing, you are bound to see a lot of corruption. I have seen people in NYC that were protesting and questioning to know where the money is. I mean Tim Geithner had big tax payment problems to pay 34 000 bucks and he is treasury secretary ? You are not gonna name a psychopath the chief of the FBI.

Moreover, chaiman fed bernanke refuses to say what he does with the taxpayers money like 1 trillion. I f I said this kind of stuff in an accounting firm. I would be fired immediately.

My point is that I am not against a bail out if at least they used the money for that purpose. By seeing how corrupted the officials are, I am worried. A lot of of friends have lost their jobs and cannot find another one and their money was used to give big bonuses to corrupt bank leaders who did not earn this money. A lot of students cannot their afford fees anymore and their loans. I have a friend who has to work 10 hours a week to pay her fees ? Technically, our money is not our money anymore.

Since the Enron scandal, it is not that hard to lie on a piece of paper about your profits, to corrupt accounting firms, politicians, law firms, brokers companies. They are all driven by greed. We are repeating history. Enron was stuck in a Moral muteness that they could make profits while having gigantic losses. Currently, the Us thinks they are the richest country with unsolvable debts.

You have a point that gorvernment stimulus can help. I have seen some that work. The health care system is really unbalanced But when I see who is in charge of our money. I am scared. We have a president who promised us to go away frim Afghanistan and Iraq and he has sent more troops. Something funny is going on.

From an accounting perspective, unsolvable debts is the enemy of a company which leads to Bankruptcy. it a fundamental in life as well.

Main topic: Studying abroad sounds cool but learning a language can be tough. It takes more than years to master one. Japan sounds nice because they have the biggest arcades in the world with levles filled with them. Tokyo is very beautiful at night.
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[The Iceman]

ahh i fucked up my senior year of highschool. so i lost a few chances to go to some better colleges than were I'm going now. I still got a scholarship n all but I really should have gone someplace else.

let this be a warning to you younger ones, go somewhere where you'll be happy, oh and don't get a serve case of senioritis.

[Wagomu]

Yeah, I'm lucky that I got in before I stopped caring. When my class got Super Smash Bros for our senior lounge, our priorities suddenly shifted.

[TakinawaTonfa]

My senior year at high school was a complete joke.

I had only needed one more year of English to officially start my first school and every other "class" I had was either a Student Aide or Work Experience class (never even found a job for the latter, but that was more or less the school's fault).

On top of that we were on a 4-period day schedule so a good amount of time was allocated to playing Wolfenstien 3D on one of the computers in the storage room.

[Malintex_Terek]

The tuition increases are really a pain, but IMV the only thing UC should do differently from how its running the system now is use its money in smarter ways. A lot of cash goes to really dumb projects up here.

We may have our share of problems, but I'm taking more units than all my friends at CSUs currently and they're on the semester system. There are no classes, especially at SJSU, CSU, and SFSU. I never have problems getting into classes at my UC and yeah, we're getting a price hike, but at least we're getting proper education and not on the five-year plan for any major, like San Jose State is now (though there's the problem of them trying to convert to a UC mixed in there).

I got into every school I applied to which isn't saying much and now I'm at a high-ranked UC and loving every second of it. I'm an English major so I just dick around a lot, have a light workload, and enjoy the hell out of all my classes. I hope to go to grad school later so I can be a professor or something along those lines.

You shouldn't have too much trouble with English, although good look finding a job with just an English A.B. in this economy. Although that's not really fair, it's hard to find ANY work in this economy. =V

What I said really applies more to Law/Medical school prospects. Graduate school is much easier to get in to, because there is no USN&WR ranking that actually means anything to hold the schools accountable for who they let in, and how many people they let in.

[Animesoccer]

I just got into UC santa barbra today! the honors program too. :)

[Akumu]

You have a point that gorvernment stimulus can help. I have seen some that work. The health care system is really unbalanced But when I see who is in charge of our money. I am scared. We have a president who promised us to go away frim Afghanistan and Iraq and he has sent more troops. Something funny is going on.

He promised to get us out of Iraq in a 4 year timeframe, so technically he's still following his plan. He never said anything about Afghanistan.

I understand what you're saying about the corruption, but that's something that is nearly impossible to handle unless it goes full on public, even then...

I just got into UC santa barbra today! the honors program too. :)

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

[Arei]

Was hoping to go to art school but I could get no scholarships, grants, or loans ;_; I've been going to junior college but this place sucks, so I'm gonna go back closer to home and attend another Uni. Nothing really fabulous though.

AND UGH I NEED A JOB >_> I applied to 15, and followed up too and never heard back >_< I don't want to go be in a "college" town anymore while the economy is still in the pits.


And seriously, right now, fuck healthcare. We need our own citizens educated and educated PROPERLY so in the future, EVERYONE has the opprotunity to be educated and get good jobs so they can afford their health care and we won't be in this shit as bad >_>

Also almost all of our best doctors are foreign, we need to be helping the students of today so they can get those jobs.

[sanji499]

Was hoping to go to art school but I could get no scholarships, grants, or loans ;_; I've been going to junior college but this place sucks, so I'm gonna go back closer to home and attend another Uni. Nothing really fabulous though.

AND UGH I NEED A JOB >_> I applied to 15, and followed up too and never heard back >_< I don't want to go be in a "college" town anymore while the economy is still in the pits.


And seriously, right now, fuck healthcare. We need our own citizens educated and educated PROPERLY so in the future, EVERYONE has the opprotunity to be educated and get good jobs so they can afford their health care and we won't be in this shit as bad >_>

Also almost all of our best doctors are foreign, we need to be helping the students of today so they can get those jobs.

You know I agree somehow. How does the government plan to finance a costy health care program when they are broke. They need to focus on productivity and the private sector. The US citizens have to save and invest money instead of relying on their credit cards. The US became rich with by saving and investing.

LOL, there are only asians in the medcine school or science in the UC's.