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    That eel thing would've been so awesome.
    Like watching an evil elephant run after having a barrel full of mouses dumped on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taboo View Post
    although, dreamworks also has the unfortunate reputation of creating crap movies, so the other side of the spectrum, the animation fans and the more mature audiences, are more likely to write off any movie they come up with
    I don't agree with Ubiq's logic, and I don't agree with this, but I do agree on the marketing thing. People aren't attracted to bad movies because they think they're bad, or because they think they're "so bad, they're good" - they actually think those movies are good because they're not sensitive to higher forms of entertainment. Dreamworks bad rep also didn't stop people from seeing its bad movies, and especially not people from seeing its good ones like KFP.

    There's really only so much Dreamworks can do to promote this film beyond the picture's natural magnetism. The article I read that originally interested me in this film all but cautioned that it'll probably be under-noticed because dragons are badly stereotyped as generic fantasy fanfare in mainstream cinema, all because of poor depictions in prior films.

    These days, with the novelty of 3D animation having worn off films run the risk of appearing generic, and generic is bad when it comes to trying to market to an audience that responds strongly to franchise or celebrity recognition but not much else.
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    After reading many good things about this movie from this thread, I decided to give it a shot. It was surprisingly enjoyable. I liked most of it with only a few things I wanted to see but didn't.
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    More types of Dragon since they mentioned a dozen or so, Better end fight where the dragons/Hiccup used more tactics(not that it didn't have any but I was really thinking the two headed dragon was going to at least use it's gas breath or the eels would be used),more info on little things
    Still, I had a good time. Thanks for the recommendation.




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    More types of Dragon since they mentioned a dozen or so
    oh yeah, definitely

    when he was going through that hand book and got to the creepier species, i was just praying we'd get to see some of them

    People aren't attracted to bad movies because they think they're bad, or because they think they're "so bad, they're good" - they actually think those movies are good because they're not sensitive to higher forms of entertainment. Dreamworks bad rep also didn't stop people from seeing its bad movies, and especially not people from seeing its good ones like KFP.
    What I meant by that, was that a lot of people that I know, online especially, have been to see Madagascar or Monsters Vs Aliens, and were disappointed because they were not fans of that particular brand of "humor", and have since decided not to waste their money on seeing a Dreamworks film in theaters. Frankly, I felt the same way about Kung Fu Panda based on how it was marketed: obnoxious celebrity voice, slow motion, EVERYBODEH WAS KUNG FU FAIGHTIIIING, etc

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    I understand some of the things they left out since it is a movie focused on kids and you can't make those too long, if it was a movie made focusing on older audiences I would be a bit more upset about the things you mentioned.

    One thing I was a bit eh on though.
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    When Astrid found him while he was trying to run away, he had no reason to go after her, he was running away, by the time she got back to the village and they had rounded up the warriors and came back he would of been long gone, and him talking to her is what made him want to stay, so I wish it just would of given him more of a reason to chase her instead of just leaving like he planned.
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    It makes me glad that they would try to deliberately steer away from marketing solely on celebrity voice talent. Not that it's a bad thing to have, Pixar does it too, but never do I go into any Pixar movie for the actors behind the characters, they're just "there" and usually well chosen for their role rather than built entirely around it.

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    Hey, I was at work, and I noticed the two-headed dragon was called a Zippleback (couldn't remember it before).
    Considering that that dragon uses gas and sparks to ignite things, do you think it was called Zippleback because 'Zippoback' would've been copyright infringement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles the Dark View Post
    Hey, I was at work, and I noticed the two-headed dragon was called a Zippleback (couldn't remember it before).
    Considering that that dragon uses gas and sparks to ignite things, do you think it was called Zippleback because 'Zippoback' would've been copyright infringement?
    Here's a quote from pg 44 of the artbook (happened to just read it a couple minutes ago!):

    "This dragon [the Hideous Zippleback] does not breathe fire, technically. Instead, one head emits a flammable gas while the other strikes a spark to ignite it into a flame. Perhaps a more appropriate name would have been the Zippo-back?"


    And @Sesshy:

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    Perhaps it was because Hiccup planned to leave in secrecy. Without Astrid reporting him, he would have simply been written off as "disappeared for unknown reasons". That doesn't sound nearly as treacherous as "eloping with dragon friend", which might have provoked some hostile reactions.

    And as for why he abandoned the decision to run away after being caught by Astrid-- Even she, the most determined of his peers, was able to accept and even admire a dragon. As a result Hiccup might have realized that there were more possibilities than simply running away, and so decided to stay "one more day" and weigh his options.

    Just my 2 cents!

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    I'll admit it... reading the title and seeing it was from Dreamworks (plus the trailers don't show much of the good stuff) I walked in thinking it was going to be crap.

    I'm glad I was wrong.

    This was the first time I've seen a Dreamworks picture "for kids" that didn't insult the parents intelligence with fart jokes and pop culture references galore.

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    The story well paced, the Toothless/Hiccup scenes were amazing and the ending along with the repercussions of the battle (zomg Hiccup ACTUALLY lost his fucking leg?!) were all top notch. The 3-D was decent... nothing to write home about imo.

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    I came here cause I thought that someone will show me how can I train my own dragon :(


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    awesome movie was awesome. Chris Sanders deserves his spot on my list of "creatives to see in the theatre whenever possible." ''Pretty much every single damn scene with Toothless was good, or cute or endearing or funny or badass or... stuff. Very well done.

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    I just saw this film and frigging fell in love. ;A; Absolutely the best movie from Dreamworks for me. <3 Toothless was absolutely adorable and all the dragons were amazing! *huge dragonfan since... I don't even remember when :I* Usually I don't like main characters but now I really did! c:

    Very good stuff indeed! Can't wait for the DVD~
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    Hello again!
    Since you all know I love the movie...I'd seriously check out the soundtrack. It's a great track and I love it when a movie actually USES its music to its fullest potential besides just background music.

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    Definitely one of the best 3d animation movies I've ever seen, if not the best.

    For anyone who has read the book : Is there any story behind the giant dragon? why did it live inside a volcano and how could he be much bigger than the other dragons in the first place?
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    I really enjoyed this film! The animation was crisp and the storyline was really cute! I loved Toothless. Yes some aspects of the film were predictable but overall I liked the storyline and the music! I can't wait to get the film on blu-ray and the soundtrack!

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    Whee! What a fun movie! I do truly love dragons, so it's awesome to see a movie that got them RIGHT, rather than just have them as the "Big Scary Monster Du'Jour." Now I want to read The Enchanted Forest Chronicles and The Dragonriders of Pern all in one sitting. If only I could find them . . . .

    I will say this about the movie though: Aside from the awesome flying/battle scenes, the 3D was really lackluster. A lot of times I thought, "This is a 3D movie?" I've yet to see a 3D movie surpass Coraline for sheer integration of 3D into the look and feel of the film. Flying/battle scenes were awesome though. I dunno, maybe I need to see it again and sit right in the middle this time.

    On to the good stuff though:

    The story itself is pretty much every underdog story out there, but it was executed so well that you don't give a flying crap. The underdog story is timeless if told right, and they told it right. Mostly by, as people here have said, having Hiccup be a not-idiot. Clumsy, misunderstood, definitely. But not an idiot.

    Toothless is the star of this movie. Hiccup was awesome too, but Toothless steals every scene he's in, just by existing. Dreamworks has definitely been doing a lot of Pixar study, because they way they had Toothless move and react was very natural-feeling and very engaging. They obviously did a lot of cat research when designing Toothless and all the dragons. I'm watching my cat walk around right now and all I see is Toothless.

    Nice soundtrack! I normally don't think Dreamworks when I think "Nice soundtrack!" (Prince of Egypt notwithstanding), but this was a really nice soundtrack! It won't rank up there with anything John Williams/Joe Hisaishi, but it was a beautiful soundtrack that was perfectly integrated into the film, every piece fitting the scene like a glove. And very Celtic-sounding too.

    As for the things I noticed that I can't say out loud:
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    The fat kid (forgot his name) who would constantly mutter about each dragon's stats like a true D&D nerd had me rolling. My mom didn't get it, and I don't know if the kids did, but this movie would not have been complete without a D&D reference.

    I wish the side characters had been developed a bit more, but I can see that they didn't want to take any time away from Hiccup and Toothless, who are the heart of the movie. I loved the twins. The dumb jock character didn't do anything for me though. Astrid was an awesome kick-butt girl.

    I thought it was a very nice touch at the end to have Hiccup lose his leg. It brought the weight of the danger of that fight home a bit more, and it made him a true human counterpart to Toothless, they're both deformed now. And what's a Viking without a battle wound, eh?


    I'd definitely see it again. Hopefully in a less crowded theater. Yes, the theater was CROWDED, at a 4:30 showing. I can only hope that means good things for the ticket sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashura_KingFisher View Post
    Definitely one of the best 3d animation movies I've ever seen, if not the best.

    For anyone who has read the book : Is there any story behind the giant dragon? why did it live inside a volcano and how could he be much bigger than the other dragons in the first place?
    The movie reeeeeeally delineated from the book. For example, Hiccup and Co. in the book actually had to catch and train their first dragons as a part of an initiation process in their Viking village. And Toothless was actually a puny green dragon with no teeth. The giant dragon is supposed to be the Green Death, but checking my sources, it was renamed the Red Death (prolly cause he nows live in a volcano). The Green Death was originally one of the two sea dragons that washed up on Hiccup's island and ate the other dragon and tried to eat the rest of Hiccup's village.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teez View Post
    Here's a quote from pg 44 of the artbook (happened to just read it a couple minutes ago!):

    "This dragon [the Hideous Zippleback] does not breathe fire, technically. Instead, one head emits a flammable gas while the other strikes a spark to ignite it into a flame. Perhaps a more appropriate name would have been the Zippo-back?"

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    Also, at the beginning, you see one Zippleback put the 2 necks together and the spines going up the back of both necks (and I assume the tails as well)join up like a big zipper.
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    I loved it, while not genius like Wall-e, it was pure fun, I really really enjoyed it as a pure adventure, I hope they can somehow work in a sequel.

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    Default How to train your dragon Japanese merchandise?

    Has anyone watched "How to train your dragon" yet?

    anyways, that's not the main subject, does anyone
    know of the Japanese merchandise that japan has
    of how to train your dragon? like this for instance



    It's a Toothless keychain, a cute one at that.
    I was wondering If anyone knows what the above
    picture says.

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