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    Ok, i've started this thread because i think its time to talk about the weekly ratings.

    The most of you, who read Bakuman should know how this works.

    Important notes:

    The ranked chapters are from 8 weeks ago.


    • italic names mean that mangas are set by the editors
    • the first real ranking for new mangas is chapter 8
    • PTF Jaguar is nearly always last
    • Full TOC usually appears on wednesday
    • Bottom 5 usually appears on sunday
    Last issue:
    WSJ #30/10 - Full ToC:
    01. Bleach 409 (CP)
    02. One Piece 589
    03. Katekyou Himan REBORN! 295
    04. Bakuman 91 (Cover)
    05. Medaka Box 56 (CP)
    06. Kochikame
    07. Nurarihyon no Mago 112
    08. Sket Dance 143
    09. Beelzebub 66
    10. Metallica Metalluca 7
    11. Toriko 101
    12. Shounen Shikku 6
    Kiba & Kiba von Riichiro Inagaki & Ponjea [OS] (CP)
    13. Kuroko no Baske 74
    14. Hokenshitsu no Shinigami 40
    15. Inumaru dashi 90
    16. Gintama 314 (CP)
    17. Psyren 124
    18. Kiben Gakuha, Yotsuya-senpai no Kaidan 17
    19. LOCK ON! 18 (End)
    20. PTF! Jaguar 428

    No Naruto


    Next issue bottom 5:

    WSJ #31/10 - Bottom 5
    Shounen Shikku 7
    Metallica Metalluca 8
    Psyren 125
    Medaka Box 57
    Kiben Gakuha, Yotsuya-senpai no Kaidan 18 (End)
    PTF! Jaguar 429

    No TORIKO

    Issue #32/10:
    Cover & Color for Oumagadoki Doubutsuen (New Manga)
    CPs for: Bleach, Kochikame and SWOT


    First thoughts:
    Metallica Metalluca deserves this first ranking for this obviously plagiarism.
    Kiben Gakuha got killed, yet another new manga that failed. Its time that the editors at WSJ should come up with some good ideas.


    edit: these are the last few mangas that ended/got cancelled

    Ane Doki 26 ch
    Neko Wappa 13 ch
    Waji-mania 17 ch
    Akaboshi 23 ch
    Kagi-jin 16 ch
    Rilienthal 32 ch
    Lock On 18 ch
    Kiben Gakuha 18 ch
    PTF Jaguar 435 ch (ended)
    Shounen Shikku 15 ch
    Metallica Metalluca 17 ch
    SWOT 20 ch
    Psyren 145 ch
    Light Wing 21 ch
    Oumagadoki 37 ch
    Dois Sol 17 ch
    Shinigami 87 ch
    Ouji Grimm 18 ch
    Sengoku Armors 17 ch
    Ikkyuu 15 ch
    Enigma 55 ch
    Kagami 29 ch
    Stars 39 ch
    Bakuman 176 ch (ended)
    Packy 23
    Inumaru Dashi 181 ch
    Mago 207 ch
    Magico 65 ch
    Pyjama na kanojo 26
    Sensei no Bulge 16
    Takamagahara 18
    Katekyō Hitman REBORN! 409 (ended)
    Koisome Momiji 28
    Kurogane 68
    Retsu!!! Date-senpai 20
    Last edited by Jacko; January 30th, 2013 at 01:30 PM.

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    Hahahaha, Jaguar's always last .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairouseki View Post
    Hahahaha, Jaguar's always last .
    Jaguar has sort of an exemption to tell the truth. The mangaka likes being there or they just trust in him so that's why it remains there.

    I've been following this stuff for years, I think we may have had a thread once but it really didn't go anywhere. As for this week...not much to say so far: Psyren and Medaka are always in trouble, Shikku and Metalluca were doomed from the start, and bye-bye to Yotsuya. (shame really considering I TL the one shot for it) Oh and...meh, more Bleach colors, like it needs it.
    Y'know, Negima WAS awesome...
    For the first 18 volumes.

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    Crap like Naruto and Bleach killed WSJ. Anything that's different, and has potential is tossed aside for cliche crap with about the same about of character/story depth as a grain of sand. Shit is sad; profits over art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x20a View Post
    Crap like Naruto and Bleach killed WSJ. Anything that's different, and has potential is tossed aside for cliche crap with about the same about of character/story depth as a grain of sand. Shit is sad; profits over art.
    Not necessarily all the time. Original stuff does still break through, it's just really hard.

    Oh, and I've been waiting for Bleach to finally take a dive for years...still waiting but I think it will take the anime finally ending for that to occur. (sadly that's what's going on with Gintama: the plug was finally pulled being too close to the manga and it hasn't been the same since) Unfortunately...Pierrot just wants to hold on to it like an addict, whether it be by super-stretching or adding in filler arcs.
    Y'know, Negima WAS awesome...
    For the first 18 volumes.

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    I don't think Psyren is really in trouble anymore. It scores low sometimes, and high other times, but it still gets color pages from time to time and is well beyond the 100th chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennen.exe View Post
    I don't think Psyren is really in trouble anymore. It scores low sometimes, and high other times, but it still gets color pages from time to time and is well beyond the 100th chapter.
    Psyren has a weird phenomenon I coined "Psyren-ing", bouncing up and down between the top and bottom of the magazine. If it had an anime, it may find some consistency but that may never come considering it's track record compared to other series of the year like Toriko, Mago and Bakuman.
    Y'know, Negima WAS awesome...
    For the first 18 volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokoro Ataru View Post
    Psyren has a weird phenomenon I coined "Psyren-ing", bouncing up and down between the top and bottom of the magazine. If it had an anime, it may find some consistency but that may never come considering it's track record compared to other series of the year like Toriko, Mago and Bakuman.

    I thought Psyren was going to have an anime? Maybe I missed it up with another series.

    Didn't know Nurarihyon no Mago was so popular though. Guess the fast pace and the fighting scenes pulled in readers. Just what is PTF! Jaguar? i checked google and it's about a guy playing recorder?
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    what's mago about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GEPPETTOSMONSTER View Post
    what's mago about?

    Youkai fighting. But everyone knows it's really a Yakuza manga hiding under the Youkai.
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    lol glad this isn't about american Jump and it's 4 mangas lol

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    Few questions... what do you mean by set by the editors? What does TOC stand for? And what is meant by them being the bottom 5 in next weeks issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keo2309 View Post
    Few questions... what do you mean by set by the editors? What does TOC stand for? And what is meant by them being the bottom 5 in next weeks issue?
    Table of Contents.

    Shueisha apparently rotates the order of the manga weekly in a way that reflects the popularity of the manga, except for a few conditions as stated in the OP. Usually, the manga that gets the cover page is going to come first, followed by the regular ranking.

    This is implicit information, but it's fairly reliable.

    Manga that fall below a 2 week popularity threshold are flagged for removal from the magazine, although even the least popular manga might not get canceled.
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    What a fantastic idea! Thanks Jacko!

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    Ahh, okay, that's for the answers. I pretty much follow now. BTW are you going to be doing this every week?
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    Ah , I wouldn't say anything about Metalluca just yet . It lacks a bit of structure and content , but it's most series were like that at the begining .

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    Good thing this lock on shit ended.

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    So...which series looks like it gets the axe next ? Just so I don't start following it in vain

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    Nice idea overall:

    But where is Hajime No Ippo?? Did it release a chapter when the votes came. Or is Hajime No Ippo is not releasing chapters in the weekly shonen jump?? But in the sunday magazine like History Stongest Disciple Kenichi?

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    Hajime No Ippo is serialized in Weekly Shonen Magazine, the "rival" of Weekly Shonen Jump.

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