Marc Webb's Spiderman Reboot

[Thousand Lion-chan]

Dafoe hammed up his performance too much. Though you can't blame him given how stupid his costume was. Albert Molina was fine.

[Satsuki]

Dafoe was perfect as Norman Osborn. PERFECT.

And then he put on the power ranger's mask and all credibility went right out.

Do you blame him for that, though, or the costume department?

[Angelus Dominus]

Dafoe was perfect as Norman Osborn. PERFECT.

And then he put on the power ranger's mask and all credibility went right out.

I agree and disagree. Dafoe was perfect HELL YES. But I don't knock the power ranger helmet. Comic book movies aren't going to look like the comic books bro. I'm sorry but they just aren't. I was glad they didn't fuck up the Spidey costume. (Oh and look at what they did now.) Anyway, William Dafoe as the GG was so epic that even with that humiliating costume he sold it. You have to give the devil his due.

Molina as Doc Oc on the other hand..., my god that was just terrible.

[Kaiolino]

Dafoe hammed up his performance too much. Though you can't blame him given how stupid his costume was. Albert Molina was fine.

Norman Osborn is a pretty hammy villain though.

[RobbyBevard]

Do you blame him for that, though, or the costume department?

The costume department, obviously.

But he could have looked at it and gone "...Really?"

[Riddler]

Did you like Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin and Albert Molina as Doc Oc?

Dafoe hammed up his performance too much. Though you can't blame him given how stupid his costume was. Albert Molina was fine.

His name is Alfred Molina And I thought they were both ok. I actually liked Dafoe more, he just seemd nicely threatening, while Molina was a little too far off from the comics. Thats more the writers fault, I guess. I loved how Doc Ocks mechanical arms were done though.

Regarding the Spider-Man TAS debate, I actually preferred it to Batman TAS, which I only watched occasionally, when i was a kid. But hey, can you blame me, on the one side you have this flashy, colorful cartoon filled with action, on the other one you have this kinda dark and gloomy show thats all mature and adult and I was, like, seven. Of course, now I know which was the better show and have to agree about some of the faults of Spider-Man TAS.
There is one thing about the show that already pissed me off as a kid though, Mary Jane seems to be thrown into another dimension by the Green Goblin, but then she somehow comes back to life but then we find out she is just a clone of the real Mary Jane and it`s never, ever resolved because shortly after, the show ends. What the hell? Can anyone here tell me if the show was abruptly canceled or something because that ending just pissed me off. It also kinda freaked me out, because I was so worried that the real MJ was dead or something.

[Captain Katsura]

The costume department, obviously.

But he could have looked at it and gone "...Really?"

Then he looked at his check and played a power rangers villian.

[Nex]

Dafoe was perfect as Norman Osborn. PERFECT.

And then he put on the power ranger's mask and all credibility went right out.

My thoughts exactly.

I loved him as the character, thought he did a fantastic job capturing the crazy, but that costume was horrendous.

I still don't understand why they couldn't just go with the costume from the comics. It might be strange, but that's one of my favorite villain designs of any series.

[Insider2000]

Did you like Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin and Albert Molina as Doc Oc?

William Defoe was hilariously awesome. I liked him as the Green Goblin. He was just the right amount of insane, and he actually managed to be pretty freaking scary. As everyone else said, his costume was god awful. He was hammy, yes, but all three movies were hammy. Now, I like hammy, but I kind of felt betrayed by that fact with these movies. I'm not asking for Spider-Man movies to be dark, but I kind of felt like they could have been taken more seriously. I never felt like there were any risks in the movies, namely since I didn't care what happened to Mary Jane (and I love Mary Jane).

I thought Alfred Molina as Doc Oc was...okay. He LOOKED like Doc Oc, almost DEAD ON. That's what was awesome. However, he was bizarrely hammy at unneeded times. Plus, I find the whole..."the tentacles talk to him" thing to be ridiculous.

[Captain Katsura]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjDvH...ature=youtu.be

[Kaboom]

There's a new publicity shot of the Lizard out:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...ing-spider-man

Spoiler:

[RobbyBevard]

I still don't understand why they couldn't just go with the costume from the comics. It might be strange, but that's one of my favorite villain designs of any series.

To their credit, they tried it first and thought it looked stupid.



And I agree that's all wrong, because they didn't try very hard and that take looks terrible. (Wrong shade for one thing, and it doesn't need the bug eyes or giant ears at al, and the cap not being pulled down makes the forehead look huge. The V is important.)

Which is why you then do this instead.



Or this.


Red Skull in the Cap movie suffered a similar problem. The red was too bright, too smooth. It looked like a weird mask instead of a textured, red skull. How they could do that amazing skeletor makeup in the 80's and not match it with modern effects, I just dunno.

There's a new publicity shot of the Lizard out:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...ing-spider-man

Spoiler:

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/lizardew1.jpg

Yeah, that just looks silly. I don't want to say "needs snout to look right!" but the middle they've gone with a bigger than usual mouth just looks goofy. Makes him look like a monkey or something.

[Conekiller]

I honestly think, if they'd just added a tattered dark-purple tunic to the existing (power rangers) Goblin, it would have looked fine. But I can understand them not wanting to have to do flowing cloth physics in CGI back then.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

To their credit, they tried it first and thought it looked stupid.

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/01/0...creen-test.jpg

And I agree that's all wrong, because they didn't try very hard and that take looks terrible. (Wrong shade for one thing, and it doesn't need the bug eyes or giant ears at al, and the cap not being pulled down makes the forehead look huge. The V is important.)

Which is why you then do this instead.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsall...1324070792.jpg


Or this.
http://www.jumpedtheshark.co.uk/wp-c...image/2864.jpg

Red Skull in the Cap movie suffered a similar problem. The red was too bright, too smooth. It looked like a weird mask instead of a textured, red skull. How they could do that amazing skeletor makeup in the 80's and not match it with modern effects, I just dunno.



Yeah, that just looks silly. I don't want to say "needs snout to look right!" but the middle they've gone with a bigger than usual mouth just looks goofy. Makes him look like a monkey or something.

Really emoting the face with the dorky grin aren't we, Marc Webb?

[Satsuki]

Eh, it's not so bad. It looks creepy, which is what counts, I guess.

But I'm always expecting him to be wearing a tattered lab coat.

[Riddler]

Didn´t he wear one in one of the trailers or was that my mind playing tricks on me?

[Sniper King]

Well, there's this...

Spoiler:

[RobbyBevard]

Well, there's this...

Spoiler:

http://cdn.whatculture.com/wp-conten...the-lizard.jpg

Consensus is that, since its not on any of the merchandising, they added a brief bit where he's wearing a coat after all the fan backlash so they could leak that screenshot. But since he's not wearing it in any of the other footage or promo material, it seems like a brief and minor concession. (Plus that shot is from the back so as to not show the face and imply more snout...)

[Sniper King]

Consensus is that, since its not on any of the merchandising, they added a brief bit where he's wearing a coat after all the fan backlash so they could leak that screenshot. But since he's not wearing it in any of the other footage or promo material, it seems like a brief and minor concession. (Plus that shot is from the back so as to not show the face and imply more snout...)

I see! Thank you!

[Nobodyman]

It could be that that's the scene right after he turns into the Lizard, and he ditches the lab coat for the remainder of the movie.