Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)

[Urouge]

he's being polite overall. The mods should stick up for the guy and actually sanction the people who insult him and bully him in defiance of the rules of this forum.
But I guess fairness is asking for too much with the mods around here.

The last time I argued with him, he spent the next month following me around and calling me an idiot who can't read (even though he was the only one who thought he was right).

Now, if you insist on preaching to me without understanding anything about the situation, then why don't you tell me exactly what I've done that's "unfair."

[herr_sebbe]

She was the second in command to the big bad... that's not a bit character and she was mysteriously lending aid to Luffy/trying to thwart Croc in the end.

Details, details, details. She was a bit character with a higher rank and she was aiding Luffy because she never trusted Crocodile.

WHAT HAS PERONA ACTUALLY DONE THAT'S ON PAR WITH ROBIN?Nothing. Hence she is just a recurring bit character.

Did One Piece end? Is there no more room for anything regarding Perona to happen? If so, then sure.

[camel.d]

Hancock !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JERK DISEASE]

Creative Writing 101 for Herr Sebe and AGOG and probably Connard.

1. Reoccuring characters may be little more then cameo roles, walk bys, single liners, or temporary episodic returns. Nothing about re-use or re-appearance is inately significant.

2. Authors, particularly those of pulp action adventure genres, do a great deal of what they do for the purposes of thrill and fun. Indiana Jones shoots a sword wielding arab assassin not because of any particular reason, but because it's funny. This is not "fucking around" or "bad storytelling", it's bit moments like this that make up the bread and butter of why we enjoy these series. Emotional and thematic reasons fulfilly another part of the brain.

[Gekko135]

With the way some people cry.. you'd think

Perona supporters are the jews of AP forums

[herr_sebbe]

Super Connard, welcome to the Perona side of the Nakamates Thread. Here it won't matter what you say. All you're gonna get back is a reply to a wrongly twisted version of your own argument and some sort of comment on how you're supposedly retarded.

[Darkstorm]

Details, details, details. She was a bit character with a higher rank and she was aiding Luffy because she never trusted Crocodile.

Her entrance was mysteriously blowing up a ship and appearing in the midst of the strawhats, announcing she'd let vivi follow her to find out Mr 0's identity. That is not an entrance for a bit character.

[brennen.exe]

Pointless member bashing posts or criticisms that aren't constructive will earn a few day thread ban.; far too many one-liner members are coming out of the woodwork to basically say nothing at all. Take a pointer from certain other members and include an argument or two if you want to point out the... flaws... in another post. Just keep it civil.

[maxterdexter]

2. Authors, particularly those of pulp action adventure genres, do a great deal of what they do for the purposes of thrill and fun. Indiana Jones shoots a sword wielding arab assassin not because of any particular reason, but because it's funny. This is not "fucking around" or "bad storytelling", it's bit moments like this that make up the bread and butter of why we enjoy these series. Emotional and thematic reasons fulfilly another part of the brain.

As a mater of fact he did that because Harrison Ford had diarhea and couldn't perform the stunts needed to fight an assassin. Quite fun none the less.

[Bucephalus]

My theory: Luffy will be the next member of the Strawhat crew

Think about it. All the previous members (Zoro, Sanji, Usopp, Nami, Chopper, Brook, Franky, Robin) have had flashbacks!

Read on from here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/582/16/
It's a flashback about Luffy! Not only that, but Luffy has a goal like all the other Strawhats: to become the Pirate King.

In addition, he's funny and goofy and he even has a Strawhat, which fits in with the theme of the crew. He's pretty strong, and I could easily see him take the position of captain in the crew.

[Airflow]

she was aiding Luffy because she never trusted Crocodile.

Which proved she had more story significance than "generic underling 4". Which is completely different from Perona's situation.

Your only argument is that all her development will happen in the future, an argument which can be applied to anyone from Makino to Law, from Shanks to Aokiji, from Higuma the Bear to Hiruluk's resurrected corpse.

[JERK DISEASE]

Details, details, details. She was a bit character with a higher rank and she was aiding Luffy because she never trusted Crocodile.

She was not a bit character, Oda drew her very distinctly making her stick out like a sore thumb.
And you'd have to be an idiot to assume she was a simple henchwoman after reading Alabasta. Considering the many strange behaviors, her complicity in the newly revealed mystery of poneglyphs, her bounty and history mentioned by the Marines with Tashigi.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/201/15/
She didn't save Luffy to spite Crocodile, complete bullshit. She had genuine interest in him.

The whole fact that she distrusted Crocodile, and he revealed their relationship was more a partnership then a boss and baddie. Is all hint of her deeper furture application.
The fact that she didn't even behave like a fodder, she had no fight with the Strawhats at all.

[omy785]

My theory: Luffy will be the next member of the Strawhat crew

Think about it. All the previous members (Zoro, Sanji, Usopp, Nami, Chopper, Brook, Franky, Robin) have had flashbacks!

Read on from here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/582/16/
It's a flashback about Luffy! Not only that, but Luffy has a goal like all the other Strawhats: to become the Pirate King.

In addition, he's funny and goofy and he even has a Strawhat, which fits in with the theme of the crew. He's pretty strong, and I could easily see him take the position of captain in the crew.

Nah, I don't see him joining the SH.

[herr_sebbe]

Creative Writing 101 for Herr Sebe and AGOG and probably Connard.

1. Reoccuring characters may be little more then cameo roles, walk bys, single liners, or temporary episodic returns. Nothing about re-use or re-appearance is inately significant.

2. Authors, particularly those of pulp action adventure genres, do a great deal of what they do for the purposes of thrill and fun. Indiana Jones shoots a sword wielding arab assassin not because of any particular reason, but because it's funny. This is not "fucking around" or "bad storytelling", it's bit moments like this that make up the bread and butter of why we enjoy these series. Emotional and thematic reasons fulfilly another part of the brain.

Creative Writing 102 for JERK DISEASE and the rest of the old-school professors.

1. There are no such things as absolute rules in creative writing. You can choose to go one way or you can choose to go another. Such things as recurring characters can act as cameos or single-liners, but they can also play a bigger role if such feels appropriate. One example would be in the long-running series One Piece, where characters from an older saga were deliberately put in jail for the reason of coming back to the story and extend their role.

2. While authors are allowed to do things for the purpose of entertainment, this doesn't mean they always do.

[Kaze]

No one's joining.

the most plausible one to join would be jenbei but he has to protect fishman island now that WB has passed on.

[Bucephalus]

So, just read the recent chapter... and

Spoiler:

Hancock yelling at Jimbei was actually sort of funny. THAT'S IT. JINBEI CONFIRMED FOR STRAWHAT CREW MEMBER

[The Umbrella Man]

I'm still gunning for Margaret to be honest. She's unique and would fit in with the crew perfectly.

And wouldn't require the ship's rooms to be rebuilt unlike Jinbei lol

Has Marguerite been shown to have any semblance of a personality? Like, at all? What exactly made her unique, and also why is it that you seem to think every remotely attractive female bit character that shows up (Domino, for example) is actually interesting?

Let's not go there again.

But concerning AGOG's reply to your post, flame me all you want, but I don't think you were being reasonable either. Your argument doesn't provide an alternate storyline speculation, it provides an insult to Oda about how he would just think up his plots for the heck of it.

And if you look closer, AGOG actually does make a counter-argument eventually. Your argument is "Perona was paired up with Zoro as a random idea just for entertainment purposes," and AGOG replies by bringing up how Perona was sent away from Thriller Bark to begin with. "If Perona was just added for the heck of it, then why put so much effort into it? Oda is a much better writer than that."

Perona was sent away from thriller bark to tease Kuma's powers. Its likely Zoro was sent to the same island as perona so perona could act as a comedy foil to the serious Zoro (as stated by Zephos) which would be a perfectly acceptable reason to do so. Its not insulting Oda by saying this. Look at say, Full Body and Django. Was there some huge point in bringing them back? Or was it just to have some gags where they swooned over Hina?

Ok, let's throw Robin in there too...

Robin is nothing like perona at all. She was singled out multiple times in Alabasta and was heavily hinted at being important. She was given a real name, (unlike any other BW agents at the time), She saved Luffy, and was hinted at having some greater knoledge of the ponegliffs/ancient wepons/ wold history etc. etc.

Perona has had no such foreshadowing in her initial arc. The only arguments about perona having any type of depth are completely hypothetical speculation. Just read any of AGOG's arguments about her "dream" from that last few pages.

[Halfmetal-lich]

New chapter is out..and I gotta say...we're getting closer and closer to the answer...

[Airflow]

So, just read the recent chapter... and

Spoiler:

Hancock yelling at Jimbei was actually sort of funny. THAT'S IT. JINBEI CONFIRMED FOR STRAWHAT CREW MEMBER

It's a start.

[herr_sebbe]

Having read the last chapter:

Hidden:

I'll put my Perona theories on hold in wait for further information. She should be in chapter 593, I guess.

On the contrary, I will agree for now that Jinbei's chances have been a bit hightened now that he has quirks and a little more in common with Luffy. Hancock is still a bit of a gray zone, but also seems more likely now after what Rayleigh said about the island.