Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)

[TiT]

I can't imagine Perona joining, because there is no way that Luffy can help her achieve her dream of... what was it? Owning a country composed of cute people who have become adorable animal zombies under her command?

That would be part of her character development.

She doesn't know any better. Ever since she was little she only had animal zombies as trustful companions. As her relationship with Moria, Absalon and Hogback was pure business.

For the next two years she get to interact with Zoro, treat his wounds, watch him work his ass off getting stronger for the sake of his nakama. Flag1982 just wrote an essay about this subject. Would be silly to completely repeat it.

Eventually as she learn the meaning of real nakama, (while interacting with Zoro, maybe also the other Straw Hats) her dream would evolve to something better.
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@ vorlianis and Deicide

My point is:

Perona was SHOWN holding the paper, figuring out Luffy's message. The same was as the rest of the crew.

Reilight, Hanmock, Fullbody, Jimbei, Pandaman, Enel NOT.

[Md-Martin]

My point is:

Perona was SHOWN holding the paper, figuring out Luffy's message. The same was as the rest of the crew.

Reilight, Hanmock, Fullbody, Jimbei, Pandaman, Enel NOT.

Great, she can hold a newspaper and read 4 characters while Zoro explains what the message means. Real proof right there.

[Tsukishima]

Fun indeed.
Kuma asked her where she would like to go for a pleasure trip. A pleasure trip not where she would like to spend the rest of her life.
And that's where Kuma sent her. That's a fact whether you like it or not.

That doesn't change anything. Her dream was to have "cute" creature to obey her. If the Humandrills becomes her slave, she will have basically fulfilled her dream. And we would get rid of her and some bad theories.

Oh sure. Their children, if they haven ay, will magically appear and worship Perona out of the blue.
Well , that's your opinion and you're entitled to it as I am to mine.

Even if you don't believe they will have children, nothing said they can't change in this 2 years.

Perona is as big a coward as Robin was when she was running away and betraying people to save her own skin. Nami ran from danger before as well. Notice a theme there.

Perona never didn't leave Moria because she thought he was a bad guy. When Robin finally met good guy (the Strawhat), she didn't betray them, on the contrary, she was even ready to go to ID for them. You can't compare Robin's betrayal to Perona's, Robin would never abandon her crew only because she is scared.

Where has Zoro shown his 'hatred' for Perona exactly ? They seem to be getting along pretty well all things considering. In the next 2 years they''re going to grow to loathe each other instead of becoming more friendly ?
That's what you want to happen. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it as I am to mine.

It is more likely their relationship won't change a lot during these 2 years.

o now just because it's a comedic element it's untrue ?
Oda was just playing with us. Zoro has no problems with his sense of direction actually. Thanks for opening my eyes.

Zoro never admitted he had a bad sense of direction. I don't think he will ask anyone to accompagny him. It is more likely he will go by himself, get lost and by chance find another SH.

Already explained the normal thing. Nobody ever said Perona was treated badly. Perona was happy but it was a fake life. Zombies provided by a mad and evil psychopath.

Perona symbolically severed her ties with Moria's crew when she decided to leave. Oda had her leave TB. She was ""saved"" by Oda from this fake happy life that would have led her nowhere and Oda gave this teenage girl a chance at redemption by sending her to a place that's the antithesis of her previous life.
That's basic story telling and it's happened to plenty of characters in this manga, mostly by way of coverstories. But Perona was brought back into the main story.
Although I'm sure you'll feign not getting the symbolism involved there of course and just insult me instead.

Nothing in her behaviour indicates that she became aware she lived a fake life in Thriller Bark.

[Redspear]

fro some reason i hope vivi will be a part of the story again soon :)

[Md-Martin]

fro some reason i hope vivi will be a part of the story again soon :)

So Magmafist can come back to the story too?

[TiT]

Great, she can hold a newspaper and read 4 characters while Zoro explains what the message means. Real proof right there.

When did i call it "Real proof"?

[brennen.exe]

Can someone please show me an example in the manga where Zoro's terrible sense of direction worked against his favor*? Last I checked the gag played a large part in conveniently allowing him to end up in the right place at the right time by the wrong means. Urouge and I have been saying this for months, but I think it's worth repeating that Zoro has absolutely no reason to get lost this time around because he has the Vivricard... which means he will more than likely accidentally end up on Amazon Lily after the flashback.

[Zik]

I think he's talking about Robin's actions before joining the crew.

That doesn't make him any less dumb, though.

Robin was being persecuted by the entire world, and everyone was hunting her down. She was running away since she was 8 years old and had to take any means to survive.

Meanwhile, Perona's been treated like a princess with endless servants for over ten years, with no one hunting her down.

So, I guess Perona abandoning those that nurtured and gave her fun for ten years is the same as young Robin betraying her associates in order to survive. Not.

LOL if he's talking about the Robin that had no friends, had good reason to never trust anyone cuz they would betray her, and never committed to being loyal to anyone group due to the aforementioned.

It's not comparable to Perona in anyway unless you're making up baseless speculation.

[TiT]

Perona was SHOWN holding the paper, figuring out Luffy's message. The same was as the rest of the crew.

Reilight, Hanmock, Fullbody, Jimbei, Pandaman, Enel NOT.

For slow members who don't get it. Perona got treated as if she's already one of Luffy's crew members.

[Tsukishima]

For slow members who don't get it. Perona got treated as if she's already one of Luffy's crew members.

No, the other crew members understand by themselves what the message was, which isn't the case for Perona. And she isn't in those pages.

http://manga.bleachexile.com/one-pie...97-page-7.html
http://manga.bleachexile.com/one-pie...97-page-8.html

So, no, she isn't treated as a SH, and she will never be.

[Cyan D. Funk]

For slow members who don't get it. Perona got treated as if she's already one of Luffy's crew members.

opinion not fact

[loledinmypants]

For slow members who don't get it. Perona got treated as if she's already one of Luffy's crew members.

The irony is strong with this post.

[Deicide]

For slow members who don't get it. Perona got treated as if she's already one of Luffy's crew members.

You're either mad, delusional, reading some mock One Piece series or trying to be a prick.

Being treated like a crewmate? Perona was just a bystander so that Zoro could explain to us, the readers, what Luffy's message was.

[Cyan D. Funk]

You're either mad, delusional, reading some mock One Piece series or trying to be a prick.

I pick e) all of the above.

[Tsukishima]

TiT is probably the worst poster among the Perona fans.

[Redspear]

TiT is probably the worst poster among the Perona fans.

well its obviously because his name is "tit"

[Md-Martin]

For slow members who don't get it. Perona got treated as if she's already one of Luffy's crew members.

So did Heracles

[loledinmypants]

So did Heracles

Fuck yeah, Heraclesn! Way better than Perona and we've barely seen him by comparisonn. In the end, he's still a bit charactern, nowhere near Luffy for approvaln, and won't joinn.

[TiT]

Oh, the denial.

You're either mad, delusional, reading some mock One Piece series or trying to be a prick.

Being treated like a crewmate? Perona was just a bystander so that Zoro could explain to us, the readers, what Luffy's message was.

There are about infinite other ways to tell us, the readers, what Luffy's message was..

But the way it happened, Perona got treated as a crew member.

[Airflow]

LOL

guess any random bypasser who worked out the message has crew mate potential.