Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)

[Lazy Justice]

Just a thought: Why does the fact that Jinbe is banned from FI mean anything if FI will get destroyed (assuming it will).

Also, supporting Bonney for nakama.

And finally, the fact that Jinbe is a helmsman makes him a possible candidate, but it doesn't make him a good one unless someone can point to an example where they needed a better helmsman (maybe on the way to FI island, I'll need to reread it...)

[speedyg]

Just a thought: Why does the fact that Jinbe is banned from FI mean anything if FI will get destroyed (assuming it will).

Also, supporting Bonney for nakama.

And finally, the fact that Jinbe is a helmsman makes him a possible candidate, but it doesn't make him a good one unless someone can point to an example where they needed a better helmsman (maybe on the way to FI island, I'll need to reread it...)

Where's the evidence for this? Hasn't she still got a crew (Presuming not all was killed by BB) or recruited somehow? How would she possibly be a Shicibukai? :/

[Lazy Justice]

Did I say she was a shichibukai?

There's no evidence for Bonney being a future nakama (besides the fact she's a strong, interesting girl), but I would like to see her as a nakama, and I could 'see it' working. That's my support. Not much at all.

[YoiYoi]

Did I say she was a shichibukai?

There's no evidence for Bonney being a future nakama (besides the fact she's a strong, interesting girl), but I would like to see her as a nakama, and I could 'see it' working. That's my support. Not much at all.

So what would her role in the crew be? food disposal?

[Superbear 22]

Her being a warlord wouldn't really add up. She could restore the years Luffy lost back to him, however that might mess with the story. She really seems to like the color brown for some reason.

[Shift]

Just a thought: Why does the fact that Jinbe is banned from FI mean anything if FI will get destroyed (assuming it will).

It's more the fact he can't be seen openly associating with the people, and especially the royalty, of FI wherever they might end up. That's the reason why the SHs couldn't respond verbally to Vivi's goodbye, because the Marines overhearing could have labeled her a criminal. The same thing could happen to Neptune's family if they tried to keep Jinbe on, and would ruin their standing in the Reverie.

And finally, the fact that Jinbe is a helmsman makes him a possible candidate, but it doesn't make him a good one unless someone can point to an example where they needed a better helmsman (maybe on the way to FI island, I'll need to reread it...)

Again, he hasn't been confirmed to have been anything other than an acting captain. Whatever role he turns out to have, it's possible he may have just the skill or item they need since, according to the catfish minister, the Log Pose isn't enough to traverse the New World.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

Where's the evidence for this? Hasn't she still got a crew (Presuming not all was killed by BB) or recruited somehow?

Well i don`t think her crew is with her now.
After she got captured i don`t think her crew was able to free her from the WG.
Don`t know what happened to them, but i think Akainu arrested them instead of letting them laying around on that island.

[RomanceDawn]

Where's the evidence for this? Hasn't she still got a crew (Presuming not all was killed by BB) or recruited somehow? How would she possibly be a Shicibukai? :/

Say's the guy who insisted that Jinbe was labeled as helmsman.

[speedyg]

Did I say she was a shichibukai?

There's no evidence for Bonney being a future nakama (besides the fact she's a strong, interesting girl), but I would like to see her as a nakama, and I could 'see it' working. That's my support. Not much at all.

Sorry, didn't say you said it, but someone mentioned it earlier. Although thinking it would work due to just personal preference is hardly helpful. :P

Superbear, didn't she say she hated Zoro and ultimately the strawhats for what Luffy did to the Celestial Dragon, making life difficult for her?

Doesn't sound the type to forgive grudges easily. :P

[DarthAsthma]

If I see it in a chapter I'll send it in. Calm down, it's not the greatest mistake in the World if I'm wrong. :P

I can't remember when it's mentioned, but I'll have a look.

Just a thought: Why does the fact that Jinbe is banned from FI mean anything if FI will get destroyed (assuming it will).

Also, supporting Bonney for nakama.

And finally, the fact that Jinbe is a helmsman makes him a possible candidate, but it doesn't make him a good one unless someone can point to an example where they needed a better helmsman (maybe on the way to FI island, I'll need to reread it...)

See what you've done? You are spreading false information which is just a major pain in the ass when other people want to discuss the true base materiel instead of throwing their fan fiction around.

Don't misunderstand me it's nothing bad to be wrong but one should mend their ways if their corrected.

[speedyg]

Say's the guy who insisted that Jinbe was labeled as helmsman.

Don't you think someone who has shown to know his way around a ship and rode through a tsunami created by Whitebeard looks like someone who knows what he is doing and has been a helmsman before?

[Md-Martin]

Don't you think someone who has shown to know his way around a ship and rode through a tsunami created by Whitebeard?

He didn't "Ride through it". The tsunami CARRIED the ship and then it was frozen. The ship was powerless in that situation, stop making shit up.

[DarthAsthma]

Don't you think someone who has shown to know his way around a ship and rode through a tsunami created by Whitebeard?

It's still an assumption... and representing it as a fact... oh well you're beyond help anyways just don't expect that people will take you seriously

[speedyg]

See what you've done? You are spreading false information which is just a major pain in the ass when other people want to discuss the true base materiel instead of throwing their fan fiction around.

Don't misunderstand me it's nothing bad to be wrong but one should mend their ways if their corrected.

Lol mate, seriously I'm not pissing you and others off on purpose, be patient and bare with me. ;)

I have a friend who knows his stuff who has a good idea where it is in the manga, just been asking him now. His on facebook but not the chattiest, so hold your horses.

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He didn't "Ride through it". The tsunami CARRIED the ship and then it was frozen. The ship was powerless in that situation, stop making shit up.

You don't have ships simply been carried by Tsumnamis. What kind of logic is that? If he didn't steer it properly, it would have got carried under and crushed.

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It's still an assumption... and representing it as a fact... oh well you're beyond help anyways just don't expect that people will take you seriously

I said 'don't you think'. That isn't representing it as fact.

[RomanceDawn]

Lol mate, seriously I'm not pissing you and others off on purpose, be patient and bare with me. ;)

I have a friend who knows his stuff who has a good idea where it is in the manga, just been asking him now. His on facebook but not the chattiest, so hold your horses.

You don't have ships simply been carried by Tsumnamis. What kind of logic is that? If he didn't steer it properly, it would have got carried under and crushed.

I said 'don't you think'. That isn't representing it as fact.

I'm sorry man but your friend is wrong and if he fed you that in the first place then you need to be wary of his speculations on the manga. Chances are almost any random poster on this forum could out debate him on this topic.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

I guess his friend is translating the manga all by himself and so writes it as he wishs it to be. :)

[speedyg]

I'm sorry man but your friend is wrong and if he fed you that in the first place then you need to be wary of his speculations on the manga. Chances are almost any random poster on this forum could out debate him on this topic.

Here's a comment from him btw.

say that i am saying this :guys i know all of you are kids who have never sailed a boat, dont worry i have i know my shit. what happens when you go through a tsunami? you normally die it takes someone of extreme mastery of the helm this job is known as a helmsman for those of you who dont know.
the bigger the ship the harder it is to steer and takes more people and a better helmsman. more knowledge. Jimbei is someone who was steering a battleship something that is hard to stear through one of the worse weathers known at sea which is a tsunami.

He said he'll sign up soon, so you'll have your chance soon enough. :P

[RomanceDawn]

Ha! Tell your friend the same thing we are telling you. So far he is taking speculation and guesses and turning them into facts. Many of us here including me would love for him to have been a helmsmen. But he had an unknown title on Tiger's crew and we never saw him once steer his ship. Tell him to hurry up and get on the forums!

[Zkaiser]

I can't wait for this arc to be done with. It was a nice ride, Oda.

[speedyg]

Ha! Tell your friend the same thing we are telling you. So far he is taking speculation and guesses and turning them into facts. Many of us here including me would love for him to have been a helmsmen. But he had an unknown title on Tiger's crew and we never saw him once steer his ship. Tell him to hurry up and get on the forums!

The email verification isn't going through. >_> Who's the admin to go for this?

Wait, so how is saying sailing a boat, esp. a big marine ship is difficult, speculation? Isn't that common sense? Remember there wasn't someone like Nami in the ship to tell them how to ride a Tsunami surge. Yet Jinbei knew what to do like he had experience before. Don't you think Oda is giving you a clue there?

Poor general helmsman control on the Going Merry eventually cost the ship, despite Nami's and the crews best efforts, Usopp doing his best to fix damage despite not been an experienced shipwright and the spirit of Merry keeping the ship going. It's clear there is great importance in having someone experienced who can steer a ship in extreme conditions. Jinbei showed that on the way to Marineford.