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    What a great season finale.
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    Minus the whole Mako thing... He did alot this episode and kicked a whole lot of ass, and his partnership during the attack on Amon was admirable. Which was kind of my problem with him before. He was all talk an mope and did very little to prove himeself a few episodes back. Now I don't mind as much, if only the confession and acception thing didn't feel so fast and forced. It was honestly sort of disgusting to look at.

    Iroh... everytime this guy talked I could not take him seriously. They really should have chose a better actor for this guy, as much I love him when he's playing Zuko. Aside from that, he's a compelling character. His intro made it seem like we were already supposed to know him, and that's pretty much what I didn't like about his presence. I guess this is what the season gets for being cut in half in terms of the amount of episodes. There's little buildup, and there's little care or admiration for characters that are seemingly great on the surface.

    The backstories with Amon are Tarlock were the real highlights of these episodes. Not only there was buildup, it actual makes a ton of sense and in place of show's context. I was kind of predicting that he may have been a spirit of some sorts, but it feels a whole lot satisfying with the way the revealed the more predictable theory of all. And with that, it actually felt really good to see Amon's plan crumble to his inevitable defeat. Shame to see how he and Tarlock went down though. It was tragic tale indeed.

    As for Korra regaining her connections with the spirits... I was eh... what? Maybe this happened all too quickly... but then agian. It's a quick season. I guess I can let this slide, but at the same time.... Korra is just powerful now. In one season too. I don't necessarily see this is a bad thing. I mean, look at how far bending has grown since the original series. Aside from Airbending not being prominent, there's other takes the story can go as far as elements. There's the concept of unique benders and they themselves are clearly more powerful than basic bending. So the question is... What's the plan now? Does the world really need an Avatar? What's the deal with the rest of the world? And are there unique bending or use of bending we have not really seen yet?

    I'm honestly anticipating the following season, and despite what has been said here, I was not disspointed in this season at all. Aside from episode 10 and the overall pacing, I think it has told its story and I'm faithful it can only get better.



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    I really enjoyed the tone this ending had. Much more mature than things I normally expect to appear on Nick. I guess this series already had shades of that from the beginning, but Amon and Tarlock's past and death were pretty heavy. Not to mention the war climate of despair that the finale begun with was pretty well done, too. The line of benders being cleansed is the closest thing Nick will have to a holocaust. The fights really carried that gravity throughout, while also being ridiculous in their own regards. I really enjoyed this finale a lot. The only complaint I have is that the ending felt a bit direct. I was hoping that the second season would be Korra discovering her spiritual link and relearning her bending. But either way, I'm excited for what comes next.

    As for copouts, whatever. They didn't feel that major to me (besides maybe the automatically having the power to restore energy thing). I thought Korra's airbending fell in with the logic of the series. The Avatar learning an element is a pretty rulebreaking thing for the world (she actually has to develop a link to the element) and the offensive nature of her attacks comes from her personality and probably the fact that she trained her airbending in the pro bending tournament. Amon's character stayed pretty consistent until his life was actually threatened. He was full of malice that overtook his humanity. He was cold, cruel and calculating, but got caught off guard when his ability turned out to be imperfect against the target of his hatred. That loss of control is what set him off.

    I want next season to be the age of Bolin. He's taken a real backseat this season and I think it's about high time he got some growth. He's a pretty average bender,and his background is just the same as Mako's, so he hasn't stood out much in the story. I want to see him become a powerhouse by the end. I guess Sokka sort of did the same thing, but Bolin's more at the core of the gang. He's taken up both Sokka and Aang's roles as the lighthearted, levelheaded and neutral character that no one else is and he was pretty undervalued as that. That's what I think, anyways.

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    ok, korra's air bending made sense to me. when she was young, did she know the forms for water, fire, and earth bending. no. she was able to manipulate the elements some what, but not control them. the air bending didn't come out of nowhere. she's been working on it all season. she was slowly making progress. she had learned how to meditate and calm down and think instead of fists flying with bending, rage first, questions later. she also didn't have the other elements to hinder her. all she had was air, so maybe it was easier to "find" without the other ones there. As for it looking like fire bending. well ya. she didn't know how to make it come out before, so the whole series, tenzin was just trying to teach her how to make it come out. she doesn't know how to use it. making strong blasts with it, like firebending made perfect sense to me.

    as for the whole spiritual cop out. no. she was learning to meditate and become calm and rational by the end or the series. It was coming. Then her bending was taken away. You can see some time passed from republic city to the north pole. she had time to be sad. to ponder, to think. She's never done that before. it was always pow pow with the elements. having them taken away was a good time to sit and reflect on everything. and kinda dumb ya, but her whole tear drop there, the moment she dug deep down and realized something and was able to reach inside herself, THAT was when she made her spiritual connection. Call her a turtle lion for figuring out the reinstating bending. that, I can understand at least. but her spiritual connection didn't come out of nowhere.
    also, korra isn't aang. gotta quit expecting things to happen the exact same way

    oh ya, and i did notice distant fire avatar's hat.

    and taboo. hey, dun you owe me or something. i still haven't seen toph minus flash backs. *somes out and teases*

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    Well, right after season 3 ending, in a convention room with an attentive huge fanbase audience that waited hours to get in and see you, with a "book 4" subtitle is pretty mean. Just taking fanart without asking (granted it is fanart of the show, but...) "You're all doomed to failed relationships" "Don't doubt the will of Mike and Bryan!" "Yeah we love all the fanart! well no, just some of it, the rest of you are idiots." Plus the over-sarcastic interpretation of "this is what we think all your fanfiction sounds like. Look, Aang and Azula is pretty stupid! And we clearly think Zuko and Katara is dumb, so us putting Sokka and Toph together here means...?"

    The schooltime shipping short was lighthearted ribbing at themselves. That was just very self aggrandizing while poking directly at the audience.

    Which, given how they handled Mako, they apparently never understood to begin with even though they managed Sokka as a multiple ladies' man so casually.

    This is what rubs you the wrong way? Shoulda added a rape joke.

    Edit: that sounded mean, I just didn't think they're was as bad as you made it sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain usopp View Post
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    ok, korra's air bending made sense to me. when she was young, did she know the forms for water, fire, and earth bending. no. she was able to manipulate the elements some what, but not control them.
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    Go back and watch the clip of her bending as a toddler. She is actually changing forms as a toddler, even if it was minuscule. It's ingrained in her as the avatar. And it's ingrained in benders alike. That's why Katara with no formal training was able to do so well. It's a natural form for the movement of the bending.


    the air bending didn't come out of nowhere. she's been working on it all season. she was slowly making progress. she had learned how to meditate and calm down and think instead of fists flying with bending, rage first, questions later.
    That's why so many of those elements came into play when she finally did airbend, right? She was calm, right? No, she was panicking and angry. That's why she was using the firebending style to airbend.

    she also didn't have the other elements to hinder her. all she had was air, so maybe it was easier to "find" without the other ones there.
    This is what really doesn't make sense about the whole thing. We know for a fact that Amon wasn't taking blending away, he was just hindering it, blocking the path. So why wouldn't airbending be affected? It doesn't matter if she's never used it before, because it still runs the same path that all the other elements do. That are blocked. By Amon.

    It's an ass pull.

    As for it looking like fire bending. well ya. she didn't know how to make it come out before, so the whole series, tenzin was just trying to teach her how to make it come out. she doesn't know how to use it. making strong blasts with it, like firebending made perfect sense to me.
    But you just said she's been working on it all season. We know she's been practicing the forms, and we know that when she finally does get it, it will come easily and naturally to her, as it is ingrained in her essence, just like with how quickly Aang was able to learn all of the elements, even earth bending, once he understood what they were.
    She knows the forms, we saw her use them in the very second episode. We know she knows how airbenders fight, after all she's seen Tenzin fight multiple times.

    And Airbending is still full of strong blasts of air, it's just not used in a rage filled style such as firebending.

    I know the creators can change the rules whenever they want, it just bugs me that they did so in the finale. That was not airbending.

    as for the whole spiritual cop out. no. she was learning to meditate and become calm and rational by the end or the series. It was coming. Then her bending was taken away. You can see some time passed from republic city to the north pole. she had time to be sad. to ponder, to think. She's never done that before. it was always pow pow with the elements. having them taken away was a good time to sit and reflect on everything. and kinda dumb ya, but her whole tear drop there, the moment she dug deep down and realized something and was able to reach inside herself, THAT was when she made her spiritual connection. Call her a turtle lion for figuring out the reinstating bending. that, I can understand at least. but her spiritual connection didn't come out of nowhere.
    We're calling Aang the lion turtle. He just popped up, and despite being nothing more than a spirit managed to unlock her bending. It was a total unearned cop out. Korra could have actually grown as a character. She had a moment, yes, but it was a moment of her feeling bad for herself. That's all it was a moment of self-pity.

    Instead, Korra is still the same basic character she was when the season began.

    Hopefully she actually grows in season 2.


    also, korra isn't aang. gotta quit expecting things to happen the exact same way
    Technically she is. Technically she's all of the Avatars.

    And it's not that I'm expecting things to happen for her the same way they happened for Aang. She's a different character, that was obvious from the get go. I'm expecting things to happen by the laws of the universe that have been established season the very first episode of TLA, because even though these are different shows, they're still part of 1 story.


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    Finale did well to get rid of the feeling of smallness that the series gave me and tied up several plot lines well enough. But those last two minutes really hurt it. They couldn't have Korra accept her tied off bending and become a unique Avatar, no, gotta deus ex that shit.

    Also am I the only one blown away by the boat scene? Geez, that was pretty dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nex View Post
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    Go back and watch the clip of her bending as a toddler. She is actually changing forms as a toddler, even if it was minuscule. It's ingrained in her as the avatar. And it's ingrained in benders alike. That's why Katara with no formal training was able to do so well. It's a natural form for the movement of the bending.




    That's why so many of those elements came into play when she finally did airbend, right? She was calm, right? No, she was panicking and angry. That's why she was using the firebending style to airbend.



    This is what really doesn't make sense about the whole thing. We know for a fact that Amon wasn't taking blending away, he was just hindering it, blocking the path. So why wouldn't airbending be affected? It doesn't matter if she's never used it before, because it still runs the same path that all the other elements do. That are blocked. By Amon.

    It's an ass pull.



    But you just said she's been working on it all season. We know she's been practicing the forms, and we know that when she finally does get it, it will come easily and naturally to her, as it is ingrained in her essence, just like with how quickly Aang was able to learn all of the elements, even earth bending, once he understood what they were.
    She knows the forms, we saw her use them in the very second episode. We know she knows how airbenders fight, after all she's seen Tenzin fight multiple times.

    And Airbending is still full of strong blasts of air, it's just not used in a rage filled style such as firebending.

    I know the creators can change the rules whenever they want, it just bugs me that they did so in the finale. That was not airbending.



    We're calling Aang the lion turtle. He just popped up, and despite being nothing more than a spirit managed to unlock her bending. It was a total unearned cop out. Korra could have actually grown as a character. She had a moment, yes, but it was a moment of her feeling bad for herself. That's all it was a moment of self-pity.

    Instead, Korra is still the same basic character she was when the season began.

    Hopefully she actually grows in season 2.




    Technically she is. Technically she's all of the Avatars.

    And it's not that I'm expecting things to happen for her the same way they happened for Aang. She's a different character, that was obvious from the get go. I'm expecting things to happen by the laws of the universe that have been established season the very first episode of TLA, because even though these are different shows, they're still part of 1 story.
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    I don't see Korra's unlocking of airbending panic and rage, I see it as panic and desperation. She's not angry, she's calling out every bit of power she can muster to try and save her loved one. It's like when people can do amazing feats of strength when they or their loved one is in danger. (I remember a mother who saved her son by pulling the car that fell on him. Only like two inches or so, but still a superhuman feat.)

    When a person is in a situation like that, their body, mind, and spirit are triggered into hyper-mode.

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    This is what rubs you the wrong way? Shoulda added a rape joke.
    The hell?

    Edit: that sounded mean, I just didn't think they're was as bad as you made it sound.
    The context is completely different five years later after a sequel show and comic series has aired. But it was a petty insult *immediatley* after the series finale at a sizeable chunk of the audience at the time.

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    Thank God Robby isnt a Rape Apologist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a Rape Apologist, but not a porn star.

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    Thank God Robby isnt a Rape Apologist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a Rape Apologist, but not a porn star.
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    Its a Simpsons Joke. I hate Rape Apology and Rape jokes. And Im genuinely glad you arent one. :D

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    General Iroh should have had blue flames.
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    The hell?

    What did I do to you people?
    I think a lot of this, or at least the original comment, might be backlash from the TGWTG thread...


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    Ok..

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    They DO have climax problems..

    Issues:
    Them capturing the airbenders, but not their sky bison, offscreen and without explanation, and Amon leaving the baby out... But I understand as Korra proved, even if he had sealed him, if he didn't knew airbending yet, it would have been useless
    The romance stuff so UP AND FRONT
    Slow pace of the first half of the first part
    Amon's endgame was... destroying Airbending and using airplanes to keep Republic City under his total control? Kind of weak, I was hoping for something more in the level of "Destroying the Moon!!" and eliminate a greater treath, his "excecution line" was realistic, mundane and terrible in it's own right but kind of small compared with "Destroy the moon" "Kill the avatar!" "Burn the Earth Kingdom to the ground" of Aang's seasons.
    That little gum that was showing on Amon's face when he unmasked himself, but not when he fell to the water.

    I can forgive:
    The Airbending-Fire stance, and the power of the first puff, as Aang's first earthbending was a pretty large stone, first waterbending was the bubble that saved him and Appa for 100 years, and first firebending was a brutal ring of fire, Avatar's bending prowress is GREAT.
    Both Aang restoring her and her restoring Lin, for the sake if this was a self contained story, it would have been cruel to do it any other way.
    The liutenant not dying, so many times that creepy bone creaking bloodbending move done, and not one snaped neck, or ripped out organ, poor dad had to die offscreen of a broken revenge or something. I get it that it was nick's standars, but that was the logical conclusion of those moves.
    The lack of Bummi. Just one scene wasn't enough.
    For every knocked down airplane there was one parachute in the scene, fun times.
    The ineptitude of the fist fleet, the first flight of airplanes can't be predicted.

    Loved:
    Tarlok's story
    the boat scene
    Aang's scene (the style, her thinking "oh it's tenzin" and then Aang)
    The unmasking of Aang scene (not the "Thanks Aang"
    Asami vs Hiroshi
    Bolin and Naga, Pabu's diet on rope is getting ridiculous


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    God I miss Momo. Pabu's alright, but Momo was freaking awesome. Remember tales of Ba Sing Se...

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    Tarrlok...

    And...

    Noatak...

    That was so amazing I'm just speechless...

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    There's one thing I don't understand about the Legend of Korra.

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    If Amon is dead, at the end of Season #1, then that means there will be a new villain Season #2. However, I heard people discussing that Legend of Korra won't really have a main villain, a main villain that lasts, like the Fire Nation and the Fire Lord lasted in The Last Airbender. If that's the case...I'll be majorly disappointed, I have to say; my friend I watch it with will be disappointed as well. How do you men/women feel about this? Do you think a main villainous entity will arise in Season #2?


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    I loved it and I hated it

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    Being blown up by your own brother wasn't satisfying. I was angry. All I wanted is for one good beatdown, JUST ONE. Friggn hell, we were all waiting for avatar state, and.. just to do a pretty light show and kiss stupid Mako? UGH.

    And what with the GIANT HOLE of an explanation about why Amon can take away bending? ZUKO'S MOTHER'D AGAIN!
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