Venture Brothers

[Ubiq]

Yeah, that scene was really well done and easily one of the best moments of the season so far.

[lelandlancaster]

About Captain Sunshine...

From Jackson Publick's livejournal:

1. Captain Sunshine = NOT an actual pedophile.

http://jacksonpublick.livejournal.com/27372.html

[Dark Lord Zenigame]

I thought that was obvious.

All the innuendo was actually him being super ultra paranoid about yet another Sunshine Boy dying, and that kiss at the end was straight out of Godfather 2.

[lelandlancaster]

I thought that was obvious.

All the innuendo was actually him being super ultra paranoid about yet another Sunshine Boy dying, and that kiss at the end was straight out of Godfather 2.

Lol I thought it was too, but there were a few in this thread that were disturbed by him actually being a pedophile.

[Buuhan1]

I was never disturbed, rather him being a pedophile or just made to look like one. Either way the entire episode was a big 22-min long "Gay Superhero with a young sidekick" joke, which has been done to death.

[Sano]

Now we got a feud between the Ventures and Phantom Limbs now. With the more information about the Orb.

[The Dude]

Buddy Holly and Big Bopper

Feb 3, 1959

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

[Nobodyman]

Buddy Holly and Big Bopper

Feb 3, 1959

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

Ha ha ha, you know I was thinking that for a moment, but I couldn't be sure. So what happened to Ritchie Valens?

Anyway, this was an awesome episode. My favorite parts were the return of the Phantom Limb (who is now completely off his nut), Billy being inside that burlap sack for most of the episode, the return of David Bowie, and Lady Nightshade turning out to be Dr. Mrs. The Monarch's shoe XD

I hope they do more with the ORB though, even though it turned out that it's been broken this whole. I had such high hopes for a major story arc revolving around it.

[Dark Lord Zenigame]

I'm just mad that I somehow didn't pick up on the whole Fantomas reference waaaaaay back. >_<

[Mr. Lucci]

I was wondering when we'd see Phantom Limb again. Very good episode. I loved the council members not knowing where they really were at the beginning.

[Ubiq]

Wait, so did Jonas Venture get killed over something that didn't even work or was his death a fakeout like his predecessor's?

[lelandlancaster]

Hahahah. David Bowie. I missed him. XD

[Wagomu]

The Revenge Society was amazing.

"Why can't I hear them?"
"Because you are sane!"

And Revenge's suspicion of Wisdom was brilliant. Let's just say he went out on a limb there *pause for booing*.

[RobbyBevard]

Wait, so did Jonas Venture get killed over something that didn't even work or was his death a fakeout like his predecessor's?

The season 3 flashback indicated he was killed by his bodyguard.

This new flashback amended it. His death was faked, and the orb was broken instead. Where he is now... we don't know.

(My personal theory is he's a meber of the Guild of Calamatous Intent, or perhaps even the founder/true leader)

[Ubiq]

The season 3 flashback indicated he was killed by his bodyguard.

This new flashback amended it. His death was faked, and the orb was broken instead. Where he is now... we don't know.

That's not Jonas though, but his father. Well, unless Colonel Venture was his grandfather, which is possible seeing as how the the organization that wound up becoming the Guild of Calamitous Intent was around while Mark Twain was still alive. For Lloyd Venture to be Jonas' dad would require that Jonas be close to sixty when Rusty was a kid and he doesn't seem anywhere near that old.

(My personal theory is he's a meber of the Guild of Calamatous Intent, or perhaps even the founder/true leader)

Who? Jonas? That's possible. Lloyd Venture couldn't be though as Dragoon and Red Mantle are the two oldest members of the Guild. Of course, that might not be right though since another member of The Council of the Thirteen appears to be Doctor Zin and he was probably in his forties when Jonny Quest first aired. Colonel Venture would have to be something like 140 years old to be in the Guild though, which seems a bit unlikely.

[Buuhan1]

I'm sorry, but this season just isn't doing it for me so far.

[Dragon Warrior Steve]

I was feeling like that with Season 3, but as soon as I watch the episodes over again, I discover gems that make it fantastic.

[RobbyBevard]

That's not Jonas though, but his father.

...right. Mix up on my part. My mind combined the two characters for a moment there. I was half asleep when I saw the new episode.

But given that grandpa venture's "death" was different than wha we saw, its easy enough to believe Jonas had a different fate too. Particularly since they've be SO coy about what really happened to him

And as to waht I said before, what I meant to imply is that JONAS Venture is responsible for/on the Guild.

Spoiler:

I think Dr. Jonas Venture Sr. is still alive. They have always been very vague about his death. Nothing has ever been confirmed. So, what do we know about him?

Jonas Venture was the ultimate badass. A super heroic, super scientist. Negotiated many treaties with the Guild of Calamitous Intent. The world loved him.

But every time we flashback to him, we see more and more that the guy was a huge, amoral bastard. He gets worse every time. From being a crappy, crappy father, to leaving a bunch of children to die beneath the compound.

So, I think Jonas is still alive. I also think he's a member of the Guild of Calamitous Intent. I think he is one of the shadowy Council of Thirteen. We've never gotten a look at them. (well, until this latest ep, but that just further makes the point that even they don't know who is who, or where the transmissions are being broadcast from.)

I believe he arranged for the Monarch to briefly stop arching Rusty, and then he sent Dr. Killinger to attempt to make Rusty a supervillain. Obviously both didn't go well, and now the Monarch is legally arching Rusty Venture.

Hell, for all we know, David Bowie may be a front man, and Jonas might be the actual Sovereign...

... okay, that last part is unlikely. But, I think he's definitely on the Council.

Just my wacky theory.

Given that its one of the biggest ongoing mysteries of the series (Monarch even asked point blank at the start of season 3 and it got brushed aside) it really feels like we eventually have to really earn hat happened to Jonas.

...Unless he was killed over a BROKEN orb, as indicated in the season 3 flashback, and as you mentioned.

Side note. Eventually Future Rusty Venture has to come back in time to try and stop the angels before the appocolypse. They keep tossing that joke out, now its gotta turn real eventually.

[lelandlancaster]

I'm sorry, but this season just isn't doing it for me so far.

Is it the lack of Brock? Because I'm enjoying this season but it's just not the same without him.

[Ubiq]

If Jonas is still alive, then I'd figure him for the leadership of SPHINX or being the person behind OSI's technology rather than a member of the Guild. He doesn't really strike me as Evil in the Venture universe sense, a colossal jackass, sure, but not evil so to speak.