Pixar movies

[Rebecky_Mo]

...I just realized I don't have any softball tournament games going on this Friday (four on Saturday, but hey). I might actually be able to see Brave on opening night!

*runs to contact movie buddy*

[Nex]

Brave is sitting at a 68% on Rotten Tomatoes with a 6.8/10 review average.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/brave_2012/

Some of the reviews kind of had me worried.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

There's a probable chance that this might become Pixar's first bust (well there's Cars but that's Cars). Half-way through they replaced the writer of Beauty and the Beast with the writer of...John Carter. This pisses me off to no end given how this is the first solo female character Pixar has ever done. The visuals will still be stunning of course but Pixar is about visuals and those heart-warming stories. Yes they can be mired by cheap gags and other dumb crap but at least the themes are always original and well-executed. But from what I've been hearing this movie has a very derivative plot that's basically ripping off

Spoiler:

Brother Bear

:/

Pixar is allowed a flop here and there after being 11 for 13 for so long but...this of all movies?

[Gizmo]

There's a probable chance that this might become Pixar's first bust (well there's Cars but that's Cars). Half-way through they replaced the writer of Beauty and the Beast with the writer of...John Carter. This pisses me off to no end given how this is the first solo female character Pixar has ever done. The visuals will still be stunning of course but Pixar is about visuals and those heart-warming stories. Yes they can be mired by cheap gags and other dumb crap but at least the themes are always original and well-executed. But from what I've been hearing this movie has a very derivative plot that's basically ripping off

Spoiler:

Brother Bear

:/

Pixar is allowed a flop here and there after being 11 for 13 for so long but...this of all movies?

Spoiler:

The "twist" was pretty obvious from the second trailer on, but from the reviews, that plot point is the only thing it has in common with brother bear. It's shortcomings seem to be from following other Disney cliches and feeling less like Pixar or maybe just other sloppy issues in general.

The reviews are making me a lot more skeptical, so I suggest that people just avoid this thread and reviews in general until they see the movie. No need to warp your preconceptions like I like to do.

[RobbyBevard]

The reviews, even the one sentence ones, can't seem to help but throw out major spoilers. So, doing my best to avoid anything else till I see it this weekend, since... I'm seeing it regardless.

Besides, Bug's Life and Cars 1 were both fine, but most people don't care for them. (Bug's Life is usually just sort of... not mentioned.) And people end up completely split on Wall-E and Up as well, and some hate Ratatouillle, which I absolutely love. Cars I had to see several times before I really came to like it.

I'm sure it'll be fine. Much like Cars 2, reviewers are WANTING Pixar to fail at this point, because they don't like there being a perfect track record, so they're extra harsh on Pixar films... which are still better than 98% of the other stuff to come out in a given year.

[Nobodyman]

Besides, Bug's Life and Cars 1 were both fine, but most people don't care for them. (Bug's Life is usually just sort of... not mentioned.)

I must be one of the few people with whom Bug's Life has a very special place in my heart. That was one of the movies I watched over and over and over again as a kid until I had it memorized. Either we didn't own Toy Story or I just preferred Bug's Life over it, but that was the Pixar movie of my childhood.

But anyway, you're probably right that a lot of people just want this movie this fail. I mean, Cars 2 still has a 38% rating on RT and I don't think it deserves that at all. Still, can't help but be a little skeptical.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

I hope it turns out to be as good as it should be but a lot of the critics are in a consensus that the story is lack-lustre and derivative which really, really sucks because Pixar prides itself in its creative and original story-telling. I was really excited for this movie before...now I'm nervous :/

[Nex]

I must be one of the few people with whom Bug's Life has a very special place in my heart. That was one of the movies I watched over and over and over again as a kid until I had it memorized. Either we didn't own Toy Story or I just preferred Bug's Life over it, but that was the Pixar movie of my childhood.

But anyway, you're probably right that a lot of people just want this movie this fail. I mean, Cars 2 still has a 38% rating on RT and I don't think it deserves that at all. Still, can't help but be a little skeptical.

I absolutely love Bug's Life. It's still one of my all time favorites. Hell, in a list of my favorite PIxar films, it's be 3rd behind The Incredibles and Monster's Inc.

I never really got the dislike for it.

[RobbyBevard]

Not so much dislike for Bug's Life. Just ambivilence. People forget about it.

Its sort of just came between the first two Toy Stories, and before they'd really started building up momentum as "that studio that always does good work." Bug's Life, exact same film (though with more recent CG) released today for the first time would probably be better accepted... though with some critics out just to tear apart the Pixar record.

[Satsuki]

Poor Pixar. It's hard when you get such a stellar record like that, everyone will be extra harsh on you.

All the bad reviews I've seen so far are spitting on it because it's not the usual, "groundbreaking Pixar" that they expect. Geez, people, it's all about execution.

[Yonkou255]

Im really sad about this. If The first Pixar movie with a female protagonist (And Director) is a dud, it will probably be the last.

[Zack]

Yeah. People tend to be extra critical on Pixar whenever a film isn't up to standard even if its still good. I have to see the movie first though, to see how it actually holds up. I usually take anything above 50% on RT to usually be enjoyable if its your type of movie, and occasionally movies under that too.

[RobbyBevard]

The thing is, while its fun to have a movie hit above 95% on Rotten Tomatoes for vindication bragging, its actually a really, really terrible site for getting an "average score" from, since they only have the "either/or" option. ALSO, the more reviews a movie gets, the worse the percentiles, since 1 negative review can offset 98 positive ones. Conversely, if a movie is old and only 12 people review it and like it, it still gets 100% and ranks above Toy Story 3 or The Muppets, which have hundreds of positives.

There are often reviews on there that are 3 out of 4 stars that come across negative, or vice versa. There's not a whole lot of inbetween for "It was okay but I didn't love it."

Metacritic tends to balance out better, since they at least have a "mixed" option.

[Nex]

Well that's why, below the fresh percentage, there's the average review score out of 10.

Like Toy Story 3 is 99%, but it's only an 8.8/10 review average.

[TheCrystalShip]

I'm sensing Ratatouille quality, which isn't bad. I'll have to go and see it.

EDIT: WALL-E is very under-appreciated in this thread.
It's my favorite one outside of the Toy Story series, because it actually came off as a serious movie.

[CosmicDebris]

Not so much dislike for Bug's Life. Just ambivilence. People forget about it.

This is very true. I liked the movie, but somehow in conversations about Pixar films it gets left out. It's almost like people forget they made it. Even I rarely bring it up.

[Nex]

Just dropping by while on break to drop off this:

[Sai-chan]

Godammit. Ninja'd. :U

I loved the trailer, haha.

[Sniper King]

I just looked at the cast for Wreck-It-Ralph...
Holy crap, that's the best cast ever!

[MetaMario]

Just dropping by while on break to drop off this:

So, it's a prequel?

Either way I am excited.