Wikileaks

[Smudger]

Corrupt powers of the world be afraid...VERY afraid.

The list goes on and on and on and on.

Edit: For ease of viewing.

Second edit: here's a log of all the day to day wikileak events.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...les-key-points

[Mugiwara_no_Ice]

I miss hard talk, it's been years I haven't watched it. That journalist was quite good.

[IrishLuigi]

Assange is apparently hiding out somewhere to the south of London, although the British Police confirm that they have his contact details and address.

I'm concerned over the fact that Interpol managed to get a red alert arrast warranty for him over two apparent rapes.

I'm glad the police here isn't bowing to international pressure (read: american pressure) yet, at least.

[Smudger]

Assange is apparently hiding out somewhere to the south of London, although the British Police confirm that they have his contact details and address.

I'm concerned over the fact that Interpol managed to get a red alert arrast warranty for him over two apparent rapes.

I'm glad the police here isn't bowing to international pressure (read: american pressure) yet, at least.

The conservatives won't give him up.

They are battling against Miliband/Labour at the moment and know he'll slate them for bowing to international pressure.

Just imagine if the Whitehouse got their hands on him. (Guantanamo bay +1)

I miss hard talk, it's been years I haven't watched it. That journalist was quite good.

Watch the NATO puppet squirm.

[IrishLuigi]

(Guantanamo bay +1)

I fear it may be more like "Shot for resisting arrest".

To avoid being pro-wikileaksish, I find it unsettling that he's apparently holding back some documents about some of America's bankers.

If it was truly a whistle-blower and free, he should release documents as soon as he gains hold of them. I wonder if he's holding some very sensitive and unknown documents back as backup to blackmail US.

Don't forget; power corrupts.

[Silence]

I support the idea of Wikileaks if only on the grounds that the United States gross abuses of civil liberties and human rights over the past two decades have gone almost utterly unchecked. An incredible breakdown of the whole media reaction to Wikileaks yielded a quote that I can pretty much get behind: "One's reaction to WikiLeaks is largely shaped by whether or not one, on balance, supports what the U.S. has been covertly doing in the world by virtue of operating in the dark."

The full article is here, it's an excellent read: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/gl...ex.html?jgh=jg

You'd think that after being lead around by the nose through flat-out-no-question-about-it lies on the matter of Iraq people would wise the fuck up.

[IrishLuigi]

I saw this in Silence's link

Then we have The New York Times, which was denied access to the documents by WikiLeaks this time but received them from The Guardian.

Wikileaks has lost my respect.

[Silence]

I saw this in Silence's link

Then we have The New York Times, which was denied access to the documents by WikiLeaks this time but received them from The Guardian.

Wikileaks has lost my respect.

...Did you see the paragraph just after that one where the New York Times Executive Editor Bill Keller says the NYT clears what it publishes with the US Government and removes what it says they shouldn't?

...Why would Wikileaks give the cables to a newspaper they know wouldn't publish them depending on what its government said, when they could just give them to papers that will?

Isn't the entire purpose of Wikileaks to expose the government's covert operations? The entirety of the American media is barely covering the material in the leaks and instead focusing on whether or not Julian Assange "is a terrorist."

Stuff like Americans sidestepping the cluster bomb ban, being responsible for airstrikes that killed 21 children in Yemen, the Sri Lankan president's warcrimes... what major US media outlet is talking about any of this?

Look, and you'll find that most of the sources regarding the leaks are reporting from overseas.

That's kind of what that whole article is about.

[Caxxo]

The land of the free my ass.

[IrishLuigi]

Sorry, I skimmed through it. But I still think the documents should be publicly available for all (aren't they?), whether they misinterpret the information or not.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

A good way to blame America(and everyone else), even when this country(or any other) doesn`t need much help by doing that to himself(themself).

[Silence]

Sorry, I skimmed through it. But I still think the documents should be publicly available for all (aren't they?), whether they misinterpret the information or not.

They ARE publicly available. They're being released through the Wikileaks site (when the US isn't trying to find wholly illegal ways to shut it down).

[Lordzeb]

As much as i believe a country has a right to all it's dirty little secrets i do support everything wikileaks is doing. I don't mind not knowing this stuff but if someone is going through the trouble of trying to tell everyone i'm certainly not going to ignore it and it's not like we didn't know that the US was doing this stuff. We just normally find out about it 30 years down the line and shake our heads then.

Assange has most of the world after him now i hear he's extremely paranoid at this point. I think "shot while resisting arrest" is more like than Gatmo but i'm not sure if they'd want to make a martyr out of him like that.

[Strohhut-Ruffy]

He´s a hacker! Nice to finally notice that. That makes it a little more interesting.
I hope he comes through with it and doesn´t sell the information to the highest bidder in the end ..

[Thousand Lion-chan]

I support the idea of Wikileaks if only on the grounds that the United States gross abuses of civil liberties and human rights over the past two decades have gone almost utterly unchecked. An incredible breakdown of the whole media reaction to Wikileaks yielded a quote that I can pretty much get behind: "One's reaction to WikiLeaks is largely shaped by whether or not one, on balance, supports what the U.S. has been covertly doing in the world by virtue of operating in the dark."

The full article is here, it's an excellent read: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/gl...ex.html?jgh=jg

You'd think that after being lead around by the nose through flat-out-no-question-about-it lies on the matter of Iraq people would wise the fuck up.

Excellent, excellent read. How do you find these S-ranked quality articles?

Wikileaks is my hero. For too long the elite government snobs have been pissing on the weak, shredding any and all forms of red tape without regards to morality and without any fear of retribution.

Okay, I'm being a bit too poetic but I really love how these guys are pulling down all these pants. People need to be held accountable. I won't deny I get a pleasure out of these assholes getting humiliated and tripping over themselves to clumsily fix the mess they're in though:P I laugh how at the most they can do is shift the focus on the illegality of wikileaks' actions and saying how the information they're exposing compromise security and a bunch of other fear-mongering bullcrap whilst glossing over the fact that that information shows them doing a lot of stupid, unethical and downright cruel stuff.

[Silence]

Excellent, excellent read. How do you find these S-ranked quality articles?

Reddit, angry friends, mostly.

[Malintex_Terek]

I said this on another forum, but I'm not too interested in the ethical concerns or security questions raised by the leak. Leaks and whistleblowers always raise the same issues, the only difference now is WikiLeaks can revolutionize the speed and proliferation of released information. It's sad that it's no longer a "Wiki" though.

The leak's contents are MUCH more interesting, I mean the comments border on unbelievable at times. Political big-wigs and powerful diplomats are saying things commonly found on internet forums.

Ahmadinejad is Hitler! rofl

[m00n]

I am in support of Wikileaks. It's a journalists profession to inform. And in a free democracy it's a journalists profession to inform about the truth. It is not a journalists profession to guard anyone from danger. Now you can argue that it's not their job to endanger people either. But I've jet to hear of a case where someone was harmed. So far it's all hypothetical and talk from anti Wikileaks people. The reaction from many media groups being what it is shows the flaw in the system. The free is being eroded from the free democracy. The media is not independent from the state. Best example is the New York Times with their Government stamp of approval on every article.

[Smudger]

Apparently theirs going to be something leaked regarding UFO's this week.

I can't wait to see how this turns out.

[Fire-Fist]

I for one really support wikileaks. The insight it gave how much US was interfering in our country's politics and how most of the power holding elite goes to US to back bite about others was something i really wanted to know.

Also loved how the way highcourt here rejected ban on site saying "whole nation will benefit from a handful of people getting undressed (exposed)".