There really is no reason for a US fan to download a fansub of episodes post 395 (or wherever they started), I really don't see a reason for it at all.
Now RAWS I could see, some people like to make AMVs, but Fansubs? AMVs made using fansubs look terrible.
Nothing here for now
also : http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit.asp?id=70096Originally Posted by from site in first post
So what's the difference between damages and the costs from the defendants listed?FUNimation are bringing this suit with a view to winning damages of $150,000 as well as costs from the defendants listed, together with an injunction against any other similar activity in the future.
Oh, right. 1337. It was already mentioned. Sorry.
So, if 150,000 dollars is the total amount they seek, then that means each of the 1337 people will have to pay about $112?
So once the math is done they are only asking for around $112.19 bucks per person. Which is about two One Piece DVD sets. haha
If this is correct then Funi really are heavy hitters. haha
The FUNI white knights strike again?
Strings - Classic SEB since 2004"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." - William Blake
"I still think you are on the run or something.
You just look like a different person, in a new place, with a new name in every picture." - Hiroy
The North American Anime Industry needs to make examples out of criminals. Something big, drastic, and loud that will scare users off from stealing as much as possible. While I would prefer more focus on the groups releasing the illegal files, if the fandom knows that even individuals are fair game than that idea will spread like a plague.
And yes, I did just reference Inception. ;)
It surprises me that their lawsuit is about THIS, and yet I can't help but not be surprised by it...one piece has been heavily pirated in the past and it makes sense that they'd sue people and slap huge fines on them in order to squeeze out whatever money they want from the franchise, but really? 481? Subtitled? Not...any of the dubbed episodes that one can probably find?
Psssh....I dunno how I feel about that. They post subtitled episodes and dubbed episodes on their website where folks can view them for free. Why get bent out of shape when they're doing THAT, and charging 30-50 bucks a pop on a DVD release?
Was this particular fansub being done for profit or to make money? If not, this seems to me like them hastily and shabbily taking a stand.
Hell, my brother just had to pay 160 bucks the other day for lightly rear-ending someone.
This is equivalent to a slap on the wrist, but a symbolic one saying that FUNi are serious about going after fan-subbers now. I see this mostly as a deterrent.
Whether you wana believe it or not, downloading One Piece is illegal. It was even illegal before FUNi licensed it, that was just before there was anyone in the US who had the rights to go after you, Toei always did.
A while ago, my internet was temporarily canceled and I had to get it turned back on. The reason: I downloaded a movie and Cox does that when they get a complain from a movie studio.
I didn't bitch and moan at the company, I was stupid for downloading that movie in a track-able way. I know DAMN Well what I did was illegal.
Fansubs ARE Illegal. Fucking Deal with it. Don't feel like just because you don't like FUNimation's stream for your own various reasons, you are somehow entitled. You never were, it was always illegal, like I said, Toei just never had the means to go after fansubbers in the US no matter how much they wanted to.
Now that Toei has told FUNi to go after fansubbers, this is what we get.
It really is more like Toei is going after you than FUNi, because right now FUNi is basically acting on Toei's behalf.
Nothing here for now
Unless what you consider I say to be morality, in which case I'm sorry that you got the wrong impression.
Just simply, when I first read that, I read it as "I can watch funimations shows if I just change my servers." Though upon further inspection that wasn't the case.
But I believe that if that TRULY is the only way you can get it, then go for it. You can't get it any other way. If you really want the dub, I suppose you have the right.
However, this is once again a problem of pirating the actual subs. Which are streamed for everyone to see when they first come out. In which case you have no excuse. I feel I have been over this enough times already.
Short of these episodes never being released on home video by Toei (hah!) these episodes will eventually be released on an official format that one may import. It is the fault of the indvidual if they refuse to wait for that day and decide to illegally obtain said episode.
Bit surprised that law action is taking place about this, but I think Rin said it best. Fansubs are illegal. Even before the Funi dub/subs it was illegal, albeit we felt we needed to back than, as there wasn't a proper dub. The same goes for country's that don't get the privilege of episodes subbed an hour after they premiered in Japan, or episodes in English with a faithful, and great dub.
But to those in the country, It seems very stupid to be using fansubs at this point. We get a very nice sub every week, an hour after it premiers in Japan. I guess I understand the reasons of fansubs, because they are "More accurate, and proof read" but the Simulcast hasn't had that many problems. Yes, there have been some problems, and I don't agree with certain translations of things(Such as leaving Haki untranslated) However for the most part, it's pretty damn good, and much better than before, which we would have to wait days after the episode aired to get subs(And the faster released subs had more problems than the simulcast) and enjoy the episode.
Are you people really so butt-hurt that someone is getting sued over this?
Look. They aren't suing someone because they took the dub and made it so other countries could view it. I believe they are okay with this.
THEY ARE SUING SOMEONE FOR STREAMING THE EPISODE WHILE THIERS WENT UP
And sorry to Strings if you didn't mean anything by this comment. Its just irritating me that so many people are angry about this matter when they seem to be unaware of what FUNI is suing for.
And to Flux, I really hope that you know there are many countries that have One Piece dubbed in their native language. So you COULD pay for it the legal way in your own country. The few countries that I'm aware of without One Piece are Mexico as well as Afghanistan(including its neighboring countries). So unless you live there, just by the freaking DVD'S!!!! Seriously dude! You just don't want to pay for it, and you think you have the right to view it for free because you know english.
My problem with funimation's stream is that it... well, sucks. Buffer-while-playing players are very inconvenient and lead to unnecessary stops during the episodes sometimes. If they allowed their player to be the traditional kind where you pause and load the video, I'd use it all the time.
Hopefully, like the article says, they're just targeting the distributers and not the downloaders.
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