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    Quote Originally Posted by JERK DISEASE View Post
    And even still in Europe, so recently free of the legacy of dictatorship after the fall of communism and stragglers like Milosevic.
    Well 2 are down, 1 fugitive left.


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    Quote Originally Posted by triforcebih View Post
    Well 2 are down, 1 fugitive left.
    Ratko Mladic wasn't a dictator, just a monsterous army commander.

    I meant that Milosevic was aiming on being what Lukashenko is, a guy who came to power through the Communist party, kept going when the Communists collapsed, and who bullshitted elections to remain in power.

    The difference is the Serbs got fucking pissed when he did that and toppled his ass.
    And the Belarusians haven't been able to.
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    I want a Belarus revolution real bad. Russia probably won't even care since they hate Lukashenko now and have literally made televized documentaries to slander him lol.

    It might be a sense of completism. Europe is this close to being nearly democratic across the board (aside from some really skeevy shit in Russia, and no one cares about microstate monarchies), and there's still this one last goddamn Soviet remainder right in the thick of things dancing around and mooning the rest of the joint.

    Down with him!
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    Algerian protestors being beaten NOW. Hope our Egyptian friends will also tweet for us. #Algeria #Egypt #Feb12

    [Supreme military council]said they would ensure a civilian leadership of the state through free democratic elections & will honor egypt treaties #jan25

    Also, they have stressed that the police has to play nice from now on #jan25

    more than 500 women demontrators arrested, according to Said Saadi #feb12 #algeria @zefc @BloggerSeif @h_eid @Sandmonkey
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    more than 500 women demontrators arrested
    I think it was 50 women not 500.
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    -Chief Palestinian Authority negotiator Saeb Erekat resigns from the Palestinian peace negotiations team.

    -Breaking Reuters: Saudi Arabia Welcomes Peaceful Transition of Power in Egypt - Saudi News Agency

    -Al Jazeera: Tens of media workers protest at Egypt State TV building to demand the trials of corrupt former regime elements.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12438015

    Damn, that didn't take long for people to start over there.
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    time to start looking out for Algerian tweets and news.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110212/...medium=twitter

    The protest was not backed by the main trade unions or the biggest opposition parties. Nearly all members of Algeria's radical Islamist groups, which were banned in the 1990s but still have grassroots influence, stayed away.
    Responding to opposition pressure, [COLOR=#366388 ! important][COLOR=#366388 ! important]government [COLOR=#366388 ! important]officials[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] say they are working hard to create more jobs and improve housing, and they have promised more democratic freedoms including the lifting of a state of emergency in force for 19 years.
    The Interior Ministry statement on Saturday's protest said: "An attempt to organize a march was recorded today at May 1 Square by a crowd estimated at 250 people. Fourteen people were detained and immediately released."
    Officials with the opposition RCD party, which helped organize the protest, told Reuters the demonstrators totaled between 7,000 and 10,000 and that 1,000 people were arrested.
    Reuters reporters at the scene said protesters were outnumbered by police and by hundreds of onlookers milling around. A small counter-protest started up nearby, with people chanting "We want peace not chaos!" and "Algeria is not Egypt!"
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    all i know about algeria for now is that the police is very violent

    does somebody have more information what is happening now there?

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    I want a Belarus revolution real bad. Russia probably won't even care since they hate Lukashenko now and have literally made televized documentaries to slander him lol.

    It might be a sense of completism. Europe is this close to being nearly democratic across the board (aside from some really skeevy shit in Russia, and no one cares about microstate monarchies), and there's still this one last goddamn Soviet remainder right in the thick of things dancing around and mooning the rest of the joint.

    Down with him!
    Whenever I see gymnists from Belarus all I can think of is the U.S.S.R.

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    A little outside the topic. But now libyan airlines have made all trips to Tripoli on the 17th free and payed by the goverment. It lokks like this is happening, im off to pack my bags
    WHAT!!!
    GO AWAY!!

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    I'm tunisian.
    You can ask me whatever you want, I can answer.
    We're finally free.
    Congratulation to all egyptians, nobody can understand your happiness more than us.
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    Algeria eh? Glad to see it hasn't stopped yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JERK DISEASE View Post
    I want a Belarus revolution real bad. Russia probably won't even care since they hate Lukashenko now and have literally made televized documentaries to slander him lol.

    It might be a sense of completism. Europe is this close to being nearly democratic across the board (aside from some really skeevy shit in Russia, and no one cares about microstate monarchies), and there's still this one last goddamn Soviet remainder right in the thick of things dancing around and mooning the rest of the joint.

    Down with him!
    We would stil have Transnistria on our hands.

    Yes people, there actualy are countries out there in the world that are factualy independent but without any recognition. The outside world just thinks ignoring it will make them go away.

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    Once Bouteflika's gone, Gaddafi is pretty much fucked.

    "hey those egyptians to the east did it, those tunisians did it in the north, and those algerians did it in the east, why don't we join the cool kids club???"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartholemew kuma View Post
    A little outside the topic. But now libyan airlines have made all trips to Tripoli on the 17th free and payed by the goverment. It lokks like this is happening, im off to pack my bags
    You're going back to Libya? Or are you getting out of dodge in case it lights up?

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    We would stil have Transnistria on our hands.
    It's impossible to tell whether Transnistria is a dictatorship since no international observers have been checking their elections. The same guy has won three times which is pretty suspect but not impossible when he's tied to the independence movement. People would vote him in that many times plausibly.

    Yes people, there actualy are countries out there in the world that are factualy independent but without any recognition. The outside world just thinks ignoring it will make them go away.
    I lean on the side of supporting ethnic self determination, I like to think of the nation state as a step toward the point where society gets more interconnected and ethnic lines melt into less important things. And Irish and Italians marry and their children marry WASPs and create beautiful babies like me.

    So if Moldovan Russians feel strongly enough to fight for independence I have a hard time thinking of why I should deny them it.
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    You're going back to Libya? Or are you getting out of dodge in case it lights up?



    It's impossible to tell whether Transnistria is a dictatorship since no international observers have been checking their elections. The same guy has won three times which is pretty suspect but not impossible when he's tied to the independence movement. People would vote him in that many times plausibly.

    I lean on the side of supporting ethnic self determination, I like to think of the nation state as a step toward the point where society gets more interconnected and ethnic lines melt into less important things. And Irish and Italians marry and their children marry WASPs and create beautiful babies like me.

    So if Moldovan Russians feel strongly enough to fight for independence I have a hard time thinking of why I should deny them it.
    Well I saw a documentary by a foreign journalist visiting the country and it seemed to be prety Stalinist.

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    Well I saw a documentary by a foreign journalist visiting the country and it seemed to be prety Stalinist.
    Dude, Stalinist would be like North Korea.

    From what I saw from the Simon Reeve visit they mostly just kept Soviet symbols. But if they're holding presidential elections, fraudulent or no, they're not even a communist state, let alone Stalinist.

    Maybe being Czech you would have a hard time believing it, but there are people, generally the closer toward Russia you get, who miss the Communist days if for no other reason then stability and ethnic harmony.
    Not all countries have been able to run into the sun and dance the free market jig and the democracy tango so easily as guys like you, Poland, and Slovenia. Moldova is ....pretty objectively worse off if anything. And my guess is especially the Russians who live there strongly miss the days when a Russian dominated Union state was in charge of their area.
    Because when that died away (understandably) outraged Romanians started flaunting their ethnic freedom, and unfortunately that lead to heavy prejudice against Russians and other East Slavs in particular.
    So to Transnistrians, I doubt Communism itself has any meaning, but the Soviet symbols mean stability and protection from the ethnic violence and irredentism that occured in Moldova around and nearing independence.

    Something similar is true of Yugoslavia, some people from there still identify as Yugoslav and still idolize Tito because of all the horrific bullshit that happened when Yugoslavia collapsed. Even if you ask them their ethnicity they might refuse to say anything other then Yugoslav.
    I think actually Ivotas was an example of this, an ex pat who lived in Germany, and I know I saw him identify as Yugoslav once and get kinda mad when some clueless dingus "corrected" him by saying there wasn't a Yugoslavia anymore.
    He'd be great to talk about it with, but unfortunately I made him leave the forum forever lolll.
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    Dude, Stalinist would be like North Korea.

    From what I saw from the Simon Reeve visit they mostly just kept Soviet symbols. But if they're holding presidential elections, fraudulent or no, they're not even a communist state, let alone Stalinist.

    Maybe being Czech you would have a hard time believing it, but there are people, generally the closer toward Russia you get, who miss the Communist days if for no other reason then stability and ethnic harmony.
    Reminds me how the former old communist party member and current communist party member was insulted that anti communist resistance fighters from the 50's and 60's would get the status of veterans and compared them to terrorists.

    Yesterday.

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    No Maam do your paps or granpaps have any cool revolution stories to share with this thread about revolutions.
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    More about an invasion of 6 allied armies to depose our government.

    And subsequent glorification thereof.

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