Bleach Discussion 0: Quinzis and the Hollowcaust

[No Maam]

Characters I still like:

Neliel
Urahara
Yoruichi
Mayuri
Gin

There is a surprising lack of Yamamoto on your list.

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This manga arc is still pretty shitty, but it's better than most of the Arrancar arc IMO. At the very least things are moving a tad bit faster now, albeit all over the place. I'm really just waiting to see where the hell things are going in this arc...

In my eyes, I am more interested in the latest anime filler arc, where it seems every single character will get some depth and the fights will be interesting. Not to mention Kon is actually a main part of the cast.

I don't realy agree. At least there we had Aaroniero, Zommari , Barragan, and Yami, to a decree, to dilute the blandness of everything.

The only non bland character endemic to this arc not only looks silly in a "stupid" kind of way, but he's also stolen from another series.

[metteminne]

so....ichigo's clothes now give him his power?

[No Maam]

This manga arc is still pretty shitty, but it's better than most of the Arrancar arc IMO. At the very least things are moving a tad bit faster now, albeit all over the place. I'm really just waiting to see where the hell things are going in this arc...

In my eyes, I am more interested in the latest anime filler arc, where it seems every single character will get some depth and the fights will be interesting. Not to mention Kon is actually a main part of the cast.

Plus, it shows Chad in the opening, and has Yamamoto doing something, which is instant win.

Though I will wait to see what people think, so I can skip the inevitable Hitsugaya segments.

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Haven't you figured it out by now? they all live in a world of fun houses and wacky mirrors.

Kind of like Peewee's Playhouse.

Only incredibly boring.

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My favourite thing about that drawing is his face. It's like even he can't even believe he's doing something - and has no faith in it ending well.

My god, that's one of the most briliant observations I've seen in this thread.

Well, it is 4 pages long so far

[Gliblord]

Who ?

;_____;

If it were my series she'd be the protagonist

[loledinmypants]

My favourite thing about that drawing is his face. It's like even he can't even believe he's doing something - and has no faith in it ending well.

With his track record, I wouldn't blame him for not having faith in it ending well.

The Life of Chad: A History of Failing. And Magic Goatees
SS: Oh hey, a Captain. Can't let Ichigo down! *is owned*

HM Start: Well, I didn't do so well in SS, but I kicked a fodder arrancar's ass, so I should be able to handle this former Espada... omg, Kubo let me win! Well, a real Espada seems like a logical step up from there! And looky who was on the otherside of the wall *is owned*

HM End: Well, maybe I'll redeem myself against Yammy. We both have bulkier builds, so maybe Kubo was going for that. Even if beating Espada 10 makes me look weak compared to Rukia. Wait, what? 0? What the hell, Kubo?! *is owned*

Fullbring Arc Start: Alright, an arc focusing on my kind of people, maybe I'll be important! Wait, weren't my powers some pseudo-Hollow thing... *is used for explanation and keeping an asinine secret from Ichigo* ... ... ... dammit...

THAT Panel: Holy sh*t, I'm doing something?! This probably won't go well... *blows out a wall, ruining the hideout without doing anything to Tsukishima* ... damn, figures...

End of this chapter: Hey, NotGanju, since I did something there, how about I fight him to keep Ichigo safe until his Fullbring is fully developed?
NotGanju: "Ichigo will be fine" (Ichigo is promptly confirmed NOT fine) "Well, I'm off to save the day, see ya Chad"
Chad:

[Tokoro Ataru]

so....ichigo's clothes now give him his power?

It was an inevitable conclusion with Kubo's fashion obsession.

[metteminne]

Quick give him armani or lacoste and he has as much power as Goku!

[Sniper King]

No...I remember this picture someone did...
Ichigo's about to become VENOM!

[Dubanka]

AHHHHH HA HA, the new thread title made me lol. Well done!

You know, when chronicling Chad's history of jobbing, his complete uselessness during the very first appearance of Yammy and Ulquiora tends to get overlooked. Can we start calling him Yamchad?

Haven't Bleach's volumes always been a single detailed character on white? I don't mind this so much; it's stylish and way too late to change now.

[Satsuki]

I've been looking over the first Bleach thread just now. May I offer some tidbits of what they had to say at the start of the first thread?

Magi: "It's so fantastic. By far the best new show of the season in my opinion"

Rasengan Zero: "Anyways, yes, my second favourite manga series (only second to 20th Century Boys). Good stuff.

e1n: "bleach is definitely my second fav, after one piece."

Himizujin_Eternia: "When watching Shonen Jump series, I somehow always end up watching the Anime first. Sometimes they take a while to hook me, however. Naruto took 8 episodes, and One Piece took 24.

Bleach is the only one since Rurouni Kenshin that hooked me after one episode."

Heh, it feels like looking up hieroglyphs of a civilization that doesn't know the world is about to be destroyed from under them.

lol. Well, Bleach WAS a lot better then. I still see hints of the good old stuff from time to time, but . . . . . . . yeah.

[The Daz]

Y'know, for all this talk about Chad, people are forgetting that theres' people even worse off than him.
Yes, you heard me.

Think of Rukia. Powerless for nearly the first 200 chapters of the series, she returns to the story by one-shotting one of Grimmjows Fraccion! Hot damn!
And then Grimmjow mauls her something fierce.
But thiings look up in Hueco Mondo! She freezes that sand thing! She's fighting an espada!
Whom gives her one of the worst curbstompings the series has seen, and has her pull off the most anticlimatic win in recent memory out her ass in order to survive
But she won! Surely that counts for something right? Right?
It's more than can be said for her fight with Rudobone who was KO'd by Yammy (WTF was up with that?), who proceeded to crush her bones Oozaru style. Which happened after her unconcious body had been used as a puppet by Zommari of all people.

But thats still better than Renji, who has ONE win to his credit in the entire series run.
Vs Ichigo round 1: "OMG, this newbie is strong!" -->Byakuya takes over.
Vs Ichigo round 2: Loses
Vs Byakuya: Has a bankai! But still loses.
Vs Aizen: Team effort! Still loses
Vs Szayels bro (How can Menos Grande have brothers!?!!?): Actually wins! Wow!
Vs Szayel: Fights valiantly for several months. Is completely toyed with, gets all his organs crushed, loses extremely soundly.
Vs Yammy: Off screened.

Chad just got our expectations way too high by having SMACKING A HOLLOW WITH A TELEPHONE POLE for an introduction

[loledinmypants]

Y'know, for all this talk about Chad, people are forgetting that theres' people even worse off than him.
Yes, you heard me.

Yeah I've actually noticed that the "mains" or at least those who went to HM with Ichigo were pretty bad characters as far as Kubo's treatment goes. Ishida's pretty bad too. Only beat an arrancar powerup jobber, and Privaron Espada that I recall. Him vs Mayuri was a near-loss and at best I'd call it a draw. Though I can't remember the pre-HM arrancar arc very well so he probably got a win in on someone in the group of arrancar Renji's win was in. Edit: Might have beaten that giant dude in SS, I remember Orihime was there but forget if she did anything or even who dealt the final blow.

- Fierce rival for Ichigo forced quickly into being an ally (did he and Ichigo ever actually battle or compete in anyway before that? iirc the "killing the most hollows" lead to Menos Grande which resulted in the teamup)
- EDIT: Oh yeah, he beat that giant dude that was the gatekeeper's brother or something. Forget if Orihime helped.
- Barely forces Mayuri to retreat. Would have died if not for Nemu being nice. Temporarily lost his powers but regained them way too fast after SS.
- Promptly KOed by Tousen directly afterwards.
- Beats fodder arrancar and Privaron Espada like Chad. But then utterly curbstomped after months of being toyed with by Szayel.
- Goes to help Ichigo, decides to trick Yammy, which unintentionally screwed Rukia, Chad, and Renji over.
- Eventually takes Orihime up to where Ichigo vs released Ulqi is happening. Loses an arm and is assaulted by supposed ally when Ichigo goes berserk.
- Goes back to offscreen killing regular fodder Hollows during this arc and gets owned by Tsukishima.

[RPG KING]

Its better than they started the arc. I thought that was aziens son at first but now that he got his powers back we can more faster through this

[Bobjr]

Even Orihime has some pretty game breaking powers, and does nothing with them besides healing. I remember everyone thinking she would destroy the Hyogoku, and this is right after she brought back Ichigo from the dead.

[No Maam]

How can Menos Grande have brothers!?!!?

Yes.

How ?

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Even Orihime has some pretty game breaking powers, and does nothing with them besides healing. I remember everyone thinking she would destroy the Hyogoku, and this is right after she brought back Ichigo from the dead.

Worst part of that was Kubo had her resolve to do it in an end of the chapter cliffhanger.

[Outerspec]

I've been looking over the first Bleach thread just now. May I offer some tidbits of what they had to say at the start of the first thread?

Magi: "It's so fantastic. By far the best new show of the season in my opinion"

Rasengan Zero: "Anyways, yes, my second favourite manga series (only second to 20th Century Boys). Good stuff.

e1n: "bleach is definitely my second fav, after one piece."

Himizujin_Eternia: "When watching Shonen Jump series, I somehow always end up watching the Anime first. Sometimes they take a while to hook me, however. Naruto took 8 episodes, and One Piece took 24.

Bleach is the only one since Rurouni Kenshin that hooked me after one episode."

Heh, it feels like looking up hieroglyphs of a civilization that doesn't know the world is about to be destroyed from under them.

Lol, my opinion of Bleach would have been something like this yeara ago. Oh how time changes.

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And this thread title is perfect.

[Chopperrules]

There is a surprising lack of Yamamoto on your list.

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I don't realy agree. At least there we had Aaroniero, Zommari , Barragan, and Yami, to a decree, to dilute the blandness of everything.

The only non bland character endemic to this arc not only looks silly in a "stupid" kind of way, but he's also stolen from another series.

Plus, it shows Chad in the opening, and has Yamamoto doing something, which is instant win.

Though I will wait to see what people think, so I can skip the inevitable Hitsugaya segments.

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Kind of like Peewee's Playhouse.

Only incredibly boring.

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My god, that's one of the most briliant observations I've seen in this thread.

Well, it is 4 pages long so far

Yes, definitely more interesting characters, but Kubo never did much with them. I personally liked Stark, but he was royally screwed in the end there... Barragon was cool as well.

I just feel like things are moving a tad bit quicker now.

I hope to god Chad doesn't get screwed in this filler arc. The animators do a great job with most of their fillers, but Chad is still screwed over usually. Even Muramasa easily put him down.

[Gliblord]

Raise your hand if you want a Saikyo Jump spinoff called Szayel vs. Mayuri, which is like Spy vs. Spy only with retardedly awesome and nonsensical mad science

[Sakonosolo]

Hahaha, I love the title.

[RobbyBevard]

Bakuman has been.. on shaky ground recently.

2 arcs with weak conclusions
Lame main characters
Strong women tosed to the side
Hiramaru stealing the spotlight

Those were the alerts that started to ring with Naruto and Bleach.

I fear that Bakuman is already.. "Corrupted"

Hirimaru stealing the spotlight in and of itself isn't a bad thing. Its just bad in that he's so consistently the main hightlight, 1 or 2 pages out of 17.

I'm hopeful the series will re-find itself once the leads start working on a new series again. The writers sort of forced them into a stagnant corner for a bit.