One Piece Mafia: Part II

[Kaidonko]

The different roles of townies are a bit confusing but I'll get the hang of it.~

[Nectar]

"Hindsight". Good one.

In case anyone has forgotten, the drawback of the hypo-cop is that we risk exposing our notcoptitude. Considering the setup distribution, a cop also means a doc and roleblocker. A cop would need the protection, so a hypo-cop sounds good to me. I'm trying to weigh the consequences, but I can't think of a reason not to. Just be sure that nobody fakeclaims 'blocked' or 'guilty' tomorrow.

More importantly, I want to know how people are prioritizing today's lynch. I'd prefer to go with straight inactivity, but I'm interesting in hearing what other people prioritize.

Nectar, what should get someone lynched on Day One?

trappedolphin, are you comfortable with a random wagon ending the day?

Kaidonko, how are things?

A lurker is nice but I'd like to No Lynch and end Day 1, never been a fan of first Days.
Anyone who doesn't show up 48hrs after the game began will be voted by me.

Shuhan, you think the Roleblocker will pick a lurker or active on Night 1?
Heart, should the Doctor protect Kaidonko on Night 1?

How does everyone feel about picking the same player to Hypo-Cop?

[Shuhan]

@ Nectar: If there was a roleblocker, I would assume they would go after an active player that isn't one of their own.

My turn, are you asking these questions because you have more info than the rest of us or are you asking hypothetically?

Im not totally against lynching lurkers, however, if last game was any indication, we need to be absolutly certain before we let the mafia influence us again.

[Elisabeth Heart]

Nectar, I don't see really see why... or why not for that matter.
I was never too good at guessing Mafia's kills.

As for all the same target for hypocop, why not...
This means we should all decide on said target today, though.
Also, if I remember correctly, when hypo-coping, we are all supposed to report an innocent.
Depending on the target, this may be hard to play with.

[Nectar]

@ Nectar: If there was a roleblocker, I would assume they would go after an active player that isn't one of their own.

My turn, are you asking these questions because you have more info than the rest of us or are you asking hypothetically?

Im not totally against lynching lurkers, however, if last game was any indication, we need to be absolutly certain before we let the mafia influence us again.

I asking because I want to know your response. If not a lurker then who should be lynched first?

Nectar, I don't see really see why... or why not for that matter.
I was never too good at guessing Mafia's kills.

As for all the same target for hypocop, why not...
This means we should all decide on said target today, though.
Also, if I remember correctly, when hypo-coping, we are all supposed to report an innocent.
Depending on the target, this may be hard to play with.

Who do you suggest be our target?

[Elisabeth Heart]

This is where it's problematic -and I feel this discussion might giving too much info- cop should go for the highest suspect (his highest, the town's, whatever) but if we are to report innocence on them, how can we fake that we are in fact still suspicious of them ? In that case, should we pick someone we trust ?

In the end, I think cop should pick his own target, and the rest should give inno reports on likely targets.
What about you ?

[vorlianis]

I don't see why not hypo-cop however i have to clarify this.

Nectar, I don't see really see why... or why not for that matter.
I was never too good at guessing Mafia's kills.

As for all the same target for hypocop, why not...
This means we should all decide on said target today, though.
Also, if I remember correctly, when hypo-coping, we are all supposed to report an innocent.
Depending on the target, this may be hard to play with.

That is more like a possible strategy you can use but the only point i see in hypo cop is to hide the actual cop. And it might be interesting who avoids who. Or who picks who for that matter.
Nectars suggestion of the use is one where we all give mixed reports, it's actually a lot safer if there is a cop, i like it.

Also inactivity can't really be administered unless we have fairly long days (even longer then our current), wich isn't the case.

For now i feel like a different approach unless i get a better idea. Vote Lynch: Harvady Alumnus.

[Bogart]

Lynch Status: With nine alive it takes five to lynch.
trappedolphin [1]: Elisabeth Heart
Harvady Alumnus [1]: vorlianis
Not Voting [7]: Sky, Kaidonko, Nectar, Harvady Alumnus,Shuhan, trappedolphin, xxomg_its_mayaxx

[Nectar]

This is where it's problematic -and I feel this discussion might giving too much info- cop should go for the highest suspect (his highest, the town's, whatever) but if we are to report innocence on them, how can we fake that we are in fact still suspicious of them ? In that case, should we pick someone we trust ?

In the end, I think cop should pick his own target, and the rest should give inno reports on likely targets.
What about you ?

While thinking of a target I realized picking is a bad idea. The Mafia can kill our planned target and we'll be back to square one. Using the Doctor to protect without confirmation is bad too because this could be a No Cop setup and gives the Mafia a way to find the Doctor through process of elimination.

I don't see why not hypo-cop however i have to clarify this.

That is more like a possible strategy you can use but the only point i see in hypo cop is to hide the actual cop. And it might be interesting who avoids who. Or who picks who for that matter.
Nectars suggestion of the use is one where we all give mixed reports, it's actually a lot safer if there is a cop, i like it.

Also inactivity can't really be administered unless we have fairly long days (even longer then our current), wich isn't the case.

For now i feel like a different approach unless i get a better idea. Vote Lynch: Harvady Alumnus.

48 hours is long enough in my opinion but everyone already posted at least once Today.

Kaidonko, who do you think we should lynch?

[Elisabeth Heart]

Some people really didn't post much.
*looks at Trappy* Did I scare you off ?
Now I know people tend to say that they hate day one...
Nothing to say, nothing to do, blahblah, but I love day one-s !

So at least for my own experiments...
Maya, give me a color.
Sky, give me a number.
Trappy, give me a season.
Please ? :)

[Kaidonko]

Funny that ur asking me Figured that lynching serves no meaning if we don't vote for the same person but how do u know who's a townie and who's a mafia?
This game sounds more like a game of luck than skill. Wouldn't know yet so give me some time to follow the game rather than base ur votes on my opinion.

But if I were to choose one then Shuhan. He's scary.

[Shuhan]

Wuzza? I'm scary?

....I mean, I know I'm off my...meds...right now, but I'm far from scary.

I'm sorry Nectar, but I'm not going to answer that question...I am in no mood to be giving the mafia any ideas. Chalk that up how you will.

Question for Vor, what are you feeling so far from this activity?

[xxomg_its_mayaxx]

Color......

Violet


cause it pretty.

[Elisabeth Heart]

but how do u know who's a townie and who's a mafia?

We all follow our own rules for that... or predicted ones. Some will listen to their guts, others will wait endlessly for evidences, some will sheep their way following the majority. Usually you have to do something to create a reaction and try to find out what's hidden behind it. Or, you can observe the others do so to draw your own conclusions.
If luck is indeed involved, it's not certainly not alone :)


Thank you, Maya~

[vorlianis]

While thinking of a target I realized picking is a bad idea. The Mafia can kill our planned target and we'll be back to square one. Using the Doctor to protect without confirmation is bad too because this could be a No Cop setup and gives the Mafia a way to find the Doctor through process of elimination.

That would be a risky move on the part of the mafia though, if we go by the assumption that they kill everytime who we decide to target then the mafia could be snuffed out very.... easily. We could even technically no lynch every day and investigate everyone. I think it's a very considerable option.

Wuzza? I'm scary?

....I mean, I know I'm off my...meds...right now, but I'm far from scary.

I'm sorry Nectar, but I'm not going to answer that question...I am in no mood to be giving the mafia any ideas. Chalk that up how you will.

Question for Vor, what are you feeling so far from this activity?

Far from activity is a rather big statment is it not? It's not even been 24 hours.....

[Elisabeth Heart]

pre-dictated* or maybe predetermined is more English.

[xxomg_its_mayaxx]

Any time for a random question :D

[trappedolphin]

*yawns and stretches*

trappedolphin, are you comfortable with a random wagon ending the day?

Eh. I'm not supportive of it atm. I don't see any hurry for us to lynch someone in this game, especially if there isn't a good target or reason.

For now i feel like a different approach unless i get a better idea. Vote Lynch: Harvady Alumnus.

What do you mean by different? Is this vote just because it's Harvy-chan and he never gets lynched D1 or something?

Trappy, give me a season.

Fall! :D

That would be a risky move on the part of the mafia though, if we go by the assumption that they kill everytime who we decide to target then the mafia could be snuffed out very.... easily. We could even technically no lynch every day and investigate everyone. I think it's a very considerable option.

Except that there might not be a cop, or the cop might get killed.

Far from activity is a rather big statment is it not? It's not even been 24 hours.....

Shushu said "how are you feeling so far from this activity" which means how are you feeling from the activity that we have/don't have, not that we are far from having activity.

[Nectar]

Funny that ur asking me Figured that lynching serves no meaning if we don't vote for the same person but how do u know who's a townie and who's a mafia?
This game sounds more like a game of luck than skill. Wouldn't know yet so give me some time to follow the game rather than base ur votes on my opinion.

But if I were to choose one then Shuhan. He's scary.

It's part luck, part Night Powers, and part scum slips. Being Mafia can be hard because you're pretending to know less than you do and lie.

That would be a risky move on the part of the mafia though, if we go by the assumption that they kill everytime who we decide to target then the mafia could be snuffed out very.... easily. We could even technically no lynch every day and investigate everyone. I think it's a very considerable option.

It's not, in my opinion.
The odds of Cop hitting Mafia is low and they will be killing every Night in the meantime. If the get the Doctor early then only one is getting busted.

Maya, who do you think the Roleblocker will target?

[vorlianis]

What do you mean by different? Is this vote just because it's Harvy-chan and he never gets lynched D1 or something?

I was referring to how i wouldn't have lynched a person who didn't show up yet. But they all have.

Except that there might not be a cop, or the cop might get killed.

Cop getting killed is one thing, but it's not like that we'll be twiddling our thumbs while the cop investigates you know.

Shushu said "how are you feeling so far from this activity" which means how are you feeling from the activity that we have/don't have, not that we are far from having activity.

My bad then. The activity feels fine.

And fair enough Nectar.

In case anyone has forgotten, the drawback of the hypo-cop is that we risk exposing our notcoptitude. Considering the setup distribution, a cop also means a doc and roleblocker. A cop would need the protection, so a hypo-cop sounds good to me. I'm trying to weigh the consequences, but I can't think of a reason not to. Just be sure that nobody fakeclaims 'blocked' or 'guilty' tomorrow.

Do you mind explaining to me why we should always report innocents with hypocop? I mean i didn't see the point of it last time when the cop outright lied about his own reports.