Marvel Movies Thread

[Neaeran]

It's understandable that people compare The Dark Knight with The Avengers, since the former is probably the most loved superhero-movie and the most succesful one.
But it's really hard to compare them since Nolan goes a completely other route with Batman than Marvel/Whedon does with it's heroes. The Avengers is lighter, brighter and funnier while TDK has a deeper story and all that psychological stuff.

But personally i can't tell which i like more. They are just too different. Besides i just saw Avengers and i can't wait to see it again.

[Satsuki]

Joker and Two-Face don't have any powers either, so it's easy just to turn it into a gritty drama without having to implements the cheesy powers stuff. For that matter, even Scarecrow's powers aren't that fantastical, it's just freak-out drugs, and they never got into Ra's lazarus pits stuff. (maybe they will in DKR? I dunno.)

It'll be interesting to see how he handles Bane. Bane's got some freaky powers, but I doubt Nolan will bulk him up to Hulk-sized proportions with glowing veins and stuff.

[sanji499]

Dark Knight is a great thriller/crime movie. And its a pretty damn good Joker movie. But its only a mediocre Batman movie, not much of a superhero flik at all, really. There's no FUN in the entire thing. Sure Ledger was great, but it doesn't hold a candle to Mask of the Phantasm.

Dark Knight and Iron Man came out the same year. Batman may be the better movie overall, but Iron Man was the more fun superhero movie that lends to rewatching.

I thought the ferry scene was bs. There was no build up for the civilians or the criminals to do the right thing. In real life, people would have not waited a second to push the button to save their skins(Costa Concordia anyone). The morale of the story is that people must remain dumb, ignorant and accept a fantasy in order to keep "hope". It was not that great, I prefered Begins conclusion.

[Mog]

I loved the Dark Knight, but it really wasn't a superhero movie or even really a comic book movie. Sure you could argue semantics about that all day, but the Avengers obviously isn't even trying to compete on whatever playing field Nolan's operating.

It's also a billion times funnier and more kickass.

[sanji499]

I loved the Dark Knight, but it really wasn't a superhero movie or even really a comic book movie. Sure you could argue semantics about that all day, but the Avengers obviously isn't even trying to compete on whatever playing field Nolan's operating.

It's also a billion times funnier and more kickass.

The Dark Knight was obviously trying to be something more. Batman was not really here, he was just a vigilante going left and right beating people. If Plinkett reviews the film, he is probably gonna citicize the manipulative ideas of the film(Avatar). Surprisingly, I thought Spiderman 2 was better, more balanced and interesting.

If I want to see the AVenger. I am definteley going for the fun without too much expectation, some great humor (Tony Stark is awesome) and eye candy hmmm... Scarlet Johansson in leather suit...

[LUFFY#1 fan]

http://t.co/3rrz5Iv4

So yeah even if this movie somehow does bad in the US, it already did enough for a sequel just by other countries!

[Thousand Lion-chan]

I kinda don't want a sequel. On the one hand it would probably be great if Joss Whedon does it again (and he already talked about how he would do something different for the sequel so ti wouldn't be the same movie) yet on the other hand, this movie would have been so perfect stand-alone. A self-contained epic which told everything that needed to be said. Anything else would just feel like random villain of the week. Plus it would be more special if it was just stand alone.

But this is a moot point, we all know a sequel is coming and I'd probably love the hell out of it.

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I thought the ferry scene was bs. There was no build up for the civilians or the criminals to do the right thing. In real life, people would have not waited a second to push the button to save their skins(Costa Concordia anyone). The morale of the story is that people must remain dumb, ignorant and accept a fantasy in order to keep "hope". It was not that great, I prefered Begins conclusion.

Hi Five bro, that ferry scene was just stupid. Let's discard the fact that there would have been a mass panic where the button would have invariably been pressed by someone not everyone sitting oh so nicely and taking a vote. It also didn't prove anything. Joker was trying to prove that there was evil in all the good people's heart yet he set them up against criminals? If the criminals pressed the detonate button, it would have just been bad guys being bad guys, he even went so far to urge the good guys to hurry up and press the button first. If the civilians pressed the button, it would have just proved they weren't stupid.

I know he was supposed to be crazy but there's supposed to be some internal logic to him, some point he's trying to make or the audience would just be disconnected from the villain.

[tatermoog]

The Joker had such complicated plans for a nihilist.

And no, you shouldn't want a sequel for this movie. Whedon's good in short bursts, but the longer you let him go, the more likely it is that he'll do something to annoy you. It's the reason Firefly is better off as one season with your imagination filling in the future.

[Demon Rin]

The Joker had such complicated plans for a nihilist.

Apparently everybody wasn't paying attention to the movie because this is the exact opposite to what Joker was doing in the movie.

Every "Step" of the plan you see him doing is just him making that part up as he goes along. And a couple of them failed

Like when he went after Harvey Dent at that party. If he'd found him and killed him there like he wanted to, then the movie would have been over much sooner. But Batman screwed that one up so Joker had to leave and try something else later.
The only thing Joker actually really thought out was putting the bomb in the guy to get out of the MCU. Every single other thing the Joker did could have been preceded by a deleted scene of the Joker going "Hm, that would be pretty good... yeah, I'll do that this time".

[SympathyX]

Just got back from it.

God damn.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

Less than a week left and we can start talking about it. I need to see it again by that time. And I'll remember to take my glasses next time.

[tatermoog]

The only thing Joker actually really thought out was putting the bomb in the guy to get out of the MCU. Every single other thing the Joker did could have been preceded by a deleted scene of the Joker going "Hm, that would be pretty good... yeah, I'll do that this time".

The bomb he planted in the dude's chest so that he could escape from the prison after being captured by the Batman so that he could tell him about his other plan with Dent and Rachel that he set up in advance? That one?

[Kaiolino]

The Joker had such complicated plans for a nihilist.

And no, you shouldn't want a sequel for this movie. Whedon's good in short bursts, but the longer you let him go, the more likely it is that he'll do something to annoy you. It's the reason Firefly is better off as one season with your imagination filling in the future.

Your opinions are really bad.

[Demon Rin]

The bomb he planted in the dude's chest so that he could escape from the prison after being captured by the Batman so that he could tell him about his other plan with Dent and Rachel that he set up in advance? That one?

Being captured by Batman isn't really a very big plan. He just wanted to talk to Batman. Everything else was just his exit plan on that one thing. The Rachel and Harvey thing was just to distract everyone so he could get out. The point of that was just to talk to Batman. ("I wana talk to Batman... Bomb in a guy to escape... but I need a distraction... uum... OH, Kidnap his friends, that'll get them all out of there")

that doesn't take a big Machiavellian plan.

[Riddler]

Being captured by Batman isn't really a very big plan. He just wanted to talk to Batman. Everything else was just his exit plan on that one thing. The Rachel and Harvey thing was just to distract everyone so he could get out. The point of that was just to talk to Batman. ("I wana talk to Batman... Bomb in a guy to escape... but I need a distraction... uum... OH, Kidnap his friends, that'll get them all out of there")

that doesn't take a big Machiavellian plan.

Did he really plan on being captured by Batman? He was definately willing to kill him when Gordon stopped him. Seems more to me like he is pretty much going with whatever happens and just likes to have an ace up his sleeve to use at the right opportunity. For example, he plants the guy with the bomb in his chest there just in case he gets captured. That doesn`t mean he plans on getting captured.

[Smudger]

Spoiler:

They did exactly that at the end of the movie. beside, that was the entire premise of the movie, to see what will happen if ordinary people actually got super power, and that why it's so refreshing.

superpowers not superheroes.

because it wasn't a super hero movie

A man with superhuman intelligence using his skills to solve crime and save people...

This movie doesn't even come close to that, it's more like a better ploted micheal bay film, just like what i originally expected, but the hype make me hoping for more that ultimately wasn't delivered by this movie. as for the follow up, meh unless they actually go with a more interesting villain next time i don't think i'm looking forward for that. my main grip with this movie is that the villain is just so underwhelming that he basically turned into comic relive for the second half of the movie.

Loki is actually just another pawn in this story though. You can't treat him beyond what he is or ignore the fact his place, his power and position all happened due to Thanos. So in truth the only thing you can focus on with Loki is both the part he played and how well he managed his role, which as we saw was nothing shy of perfect. He broke up the team, opened the portal, which is just about all he was meant to do.

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People familiar with Joss Whedon knew it was going to be pretty funny.

so because joss Whedon has a sense of humor means for a fact the movie will be pact with humor? That logic is brilliantly dumb. The truth is this film was under strict guidelines and not something that could be toyed with to any length. Point being the humor or script was never going to be predictable just because of the fimiliarity we have the with director, cast or anything else. Especially when it came to a big budget blockbuster like this.

[Zack]

Spoiler:

superpowers not superheroes.

A man with superhuman intelligence using his skills to solve crime and save people...





Loki is actually just another pawn in this story though. You can't treat him beyond what he is or ignore the fact his place, his power and position all happened due to Thanos. So in truth the only thing you can focus on with Loki is both the part he played and how well he managed his role, which as we saw was nothing shy of perfect. He broke up the team, opened the portal, which is just about all he was meant to do.

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so because joss Whedon has a sense of humor means for a fact the movie will be pact with humor? That logic is brilliantly dumb. The truth is this film was under strict guidelines and not something that could be toyed with to any length. Point being the humor or script was never going to be predictable just because of the fimiliarity we have the with director, cast or anything else. Especially when it came to a big budget blockbuster like this.

Yep. That's interesting.

[Smudger]

The spoiler tag for some reason didn't attach itself to my post above. sorry if I spoilt anyone, it wasn't intentional but the downside of trying to post using something made by smapple.

[Zack]

The spoiler tag for some reason didn't attach itself to my post above. sorry if I spoilt anyone, it wasn't intentional but the downside of trying to post using something made by smapple.

Spoiler:

Eh. That's fine for me personally. Someone on another forum already said 'Everyone who reads comics will recognize the villian in the extra scene.', so I already knew that meant it either had to be Galactus or Thanatos. Since Fantastic Four II already did Galactus to a point, I assumed Thanatos.

[Nami]

Rise Against just released a Poster Track-list of the upcoming Soundtrack.



Looks very promising.