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    Quote Originally Posted by S.C. Amigo View Post
    And James Cameron is salty as the dead sea about it.
    Did it beat Avatar?

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    No, but it's got all the opening weekend #1 spots.

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    Deadpool 2 is out and a total blast.

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    Did it beat Avatar?
    Avengers just hit 1.7 billion, making it fourth highest. It just pulled ahead of Jurassic World, but is still behind Force Awakens, Titanic, and Avatar.

    It'll probably beat Star Wars or come close to it in the weeks ahead, (2.07 billion) and maybe even Titanic (2.18 billion) but it's a long ways from Avatar and its 2.7 billion yet.

    Especially since Deadpool is going to eat into it's audience this week.

    Avatar had 3D showings being a new-again gimmick and months of no competition going for it, and that's going to throw off its total significantly for some time to come. It's going to be hard to beat for a few more years. Avengers 4 might manage it if it truly sticks the landing though.

    Avengers 1 did 1.5 billion and Avengers 2 did 1.4.

    If you account for just ticket sales though, probably nothing is ever going to beat Gone with the Wind, and it's inflation accounted 3.44 billion.

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    Just got home from Deadpool 2, dressed in my very best for the occasion:

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    will give more detailed thoughts later but.... Oh god I still hurt from all the laughing... that was sooooo great.

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    Man, I dunno when I'm gonna have time this week, but I will TRY.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conekiller View Post
    Deadpool 2 is out and a total blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Avengers just hit 1.7 billion, making it fourth highest. It just pulled ahead of Jurassic World, but is still behind Force Awakens, Titanic, and Avatar.

    It'll probably beat Star Wars or come close to it in the weeks ahead, (2.07 billion) and maybe even Titanic (2.18 billion) but it's a long ways from Avatar and its 2.7 billion yet.

    Especially since Deadpool is going to eat into it's audience this week.

    Avatar had 3D showings being a new-again gimmick and months of no competition going for it, and that's going to throw off its total significantly for some time to come. It's going to be hard to beat for a few more years. Avengers 4 might manage it if it truly sticks the landing though.

    Avengers 1 did 1.5 billion and Avengers 2 did 1.4.

    If you account for just ticket sales though, probably nothing is ever going to beat Gone with the Wind, and it's inflation accounted 3.44 billion.
    I am still fascinated that the nerd hype of Star Wars and the Culmination of 10 years of the Marvel machine could both fall short to the blue environmentalist movie. The guy is a money machine. He's got both Titanic and Avatar up there. I get managing this with already established things but 2 non-franchise/adaption so high is crazy. That's like winning the lottery ticket twice by regular means.

    For the longest time I was sure that the guy that made Avatar was different than the one that made Titanic and wondering what that guy thought when his record was finally beaten.The fact both of those highly profitable non-franchise/adaptations movies both are not only at the top but both from him will never not blow my mind.

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    Avatar is the record holder ONLY because of the 3D showings being done with "new" technology, so it's THE movie most people gave a shot on 3D for, and a lot of Imax showings as well, and as a result paid an extra 8-10 bucks a ticket. It also stayed in theaters for 8 months instead of the usual 2 or 3... partly because it was the only movie that really took advantage of the 3D tech that theaters had invested so much money into.

    The sequel when it eventually comes isn't going to do anywhere near as well. It might still be one of the top 10, but it's not going to be anywhere near that number.

    Similarly, Titanic was in a different market. It didn't have a lot of competition, and it just stayed in theaters for MONTHS, almost an entire year. (From December to October.) It didn't have any one crazy starting week but it just made 20 mill every weekend for a couple months straight. (It also now has a re-release under its belt that added to it.) It also hit the jackpot of appealing to all audiences and being a film girls could like and go see like 8 times.

    I will give Cameron all credit for Titanic's success, but Avatar's is artificial. If we look at actual ticket sales (which no one provides) I'm pretty sure its nowhere near as high.

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    The Box Office Mojo website puts Avatar's domestic ticket total estimate of tickets sold at almost 96 million, but article by them when taking the IMAX and 3-D stuff into account lowered it to 75 million, so I would go with that number. That's way less then Titanic at 128 million, Force Awakens at 108 million and E.T. had 124 million for their debut (not counting re-releases, and not adjusting for any extra-priced stuff like IMAX, 3-D, or what not, but probably don't affect the numbers greatly), but around where Black Panther and the Avengers are (that would make 14th for all post-80 films). Infinity War (which isn't even a month old), is about half of the extra-terrestrial.

    I don't dare to compare it to most films before 1980 unless they provide the values for each individual re-release. So I wouldn't touch Gone with the Wind, which besides having many re-releases, also had a much higher than ticket prices in its first release compared other films at its time during its road show (though for how long that lasted I don't know) and probably a few later ones, a late TV premiere in '76 that is estimated to be the highest ever for a movie on TV, and was also released long before the home video market was big; that's kind of why I don't think that $ 3.4 billion adjusted for inflation for GoTW is accurate because they probably lumped all the gross estimates together from all releases and then adjusted for inflation from 1939. And those re-releases can count for a lot. E.T. is listed as additional 17 million over its two re-releases (including 11 million in the re-release of 85) and Return of the Jedi is given 80 million tickets for its debut, and an additional 14 million for the re-releases. Meanwhile (to look at Disney which tend to do super well for re-release), One Hundred and One Dalmatians (the 12 highest for domestic gross) has 56 million for its debut and 33 million more over four more re-releases, and Snow White's three post-1980 re-releases are given 32 million tickets (which a lot), but I don't know how each individual release before that was. And that doesn't account for the lower priced tickets for children and other regional or specific theater factors.

    And none of this gets into the foreign market, which is probably next to impossible to figure out.

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    That's how I interpreted it anyway. I mean, his response when they asked "Why the hell did you do that?!", his response was like "We've entered the endgame", and the way he said it made it sound like this is all still part of the plan. Plus, I mean, Thanos will inevitably lose in Avengers 4, and Strange did say he only saw one future where they would win.
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    Kind of late but I got the exact opposite idea from what he did. The 1 in a 14 million chance (to stop thanos from gaining all the stones) was squandered when Starlord messed up his own plan and he knew thanos would get the stones anyway so he saved starks life


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    For what it was, I certainly enjoyed this movie. I'm not a huge comic book fan, and when I am, I barely go for capes (I LIKE RUBBER PIRATES, know what I'm sayin?) so really, all I want from a Marvel movie is some laughs and some action.

    Compared to the comedy highlights of the continuum, The Avengers, Guardians, Ragnarok (probably some others, I haven't seen every one of them) it wasn't quite as hilarious, but there were at least ten or so solid giggles. The action, however, was among the best I've seen in the genre. It was nice to see a superhero flick take a note from the world of battle manga, by supplying the big bad with some mooks that have faces and personalities (even if they are a tad boring). The New York fight in the first act and the mad scramble for Thanos' gauntlet on Titan, were two of the best super-hero fights scenes I've ever witnessed.

    I have to agree with most of you, and emphatically disagree with Wagomu - though, I must say, I am a FAN of Wagomu - that Thanos (once again, for the genre) was a pretty excellent villain. His motivation (though not nearly as interesting as being in love with death) was believable enough, his presence was intimidating, (once again) his fights were exciting, and though his characterization was fairly simple, I thought Brolin did a great job. Certainly TOP 10 comic-book-movie-villain-performances.

    I don't know how mature it was, but after all of the somewhat-eye-roll-inducing crowd cheering that went on everytime a new hero appeared, or a badguy went down, I let out a big cheer when Thanos got the time stone. No one joined me, or even laughed - jerks.

    My final note is, yes, we will likely see the Marvel Dragonballs restoring many fallen heroes, but viewing this movie as an island - I thought the mass death at the end was an awesome and spooky fusion of The Empire Strikes Back, Six Feet Under, and The f'ing Rapture from the Book of Revelation. I don't claim to be that emotionally attached to this series, but I wasn't unaffected by certain scenes - particularly Spider-Man's "I'm c-cold" moment (not that he said that) and Quill's realization that Gomorrah ate it. The way he said "You didn't have to" had some real acting behind it. I think all of the faded away characters are coming back, but I have my doubts about the Asgardians and Gomorrah.

    PPS - I feel bad for a lot of characters, but most of all for Rocket. He lost E V E R Y O N E. Pretty big loss for Thor too...and WAKANDA.
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    I never thought about it like this until now but when thor tells him he lost everything to rocket, it sort of was a foreshadow of him losing everyone too.

    Also you gotta feel bad for Tony being the sole surivors besides Gomorrah's sister


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    Saw Deadpool 2. It was fun.

    Stay for the mid credit scene.

    There is no post credits scene, so if you have to potty go ahead.

    There is however a note acknowledging how hard and how long and how many people worked on the movie. Thus implying that you should always stay through the credits even without some goofy reward, to pay respect and read all those names that worked so hard for your entertainment. So you should absolutely always feel guilty when you don't stay through the credits. But you won't miss anything if you leave early.

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    Deadpool 2 is better than Infinity War, fight me.

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    Watched D2 last night. Total blast. To think how poorer this world would be if Reynolds never got the chance to make it happen.

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    I expected more refined action scenes, though. Idk, that part left me wanting for more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nami View Post
    Deadpool 2 is better than Infinity War, fight me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    Watched D2 last night. Total blast. To think how poorer this world would be if Reynolds never got the chance to make it happen.

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    I expected more refined action scenes, though. Idk, that part left me wanting for more.
    One aspect that I was disappointed with the first Deadpool was how all of the highway fight scene was in the trailers, leaving most of the unspoiled fights for the climax piece and a few scenes here or there. But you could totally chalk that up to the marketing team or whoever did the trailers.

    So I'm hoping that's not the case with 2?

    Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the first one regardless of that!

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    I heard somewhere that there was a scene at the end of credits, but it has since been taken out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Zoro View Post
    One aspect that I was disappointed with the first Deadpool was how all of the highway fight scene was in the trailers, leaving most of the unspoiled fights for the climax piece and a few scenes here or there. But you could totally chalk that up to the marketing team or whoever did the trailers.

    So I'm hoping that's not the case with 2?

    Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the first one regardless of that!
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    The action is really fine, and it only pales in comparison to Winter Soldier and Infinity War. Those fuckers really spoiled me a little.

    As for the trailer, the best stuff was kept out of it.
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    On the issue of box office. I think future generations would be shocked to find out Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all time. Like that movie is just so much of a relic of the late 2000s at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strooger View Post
    On the issue of box office. I think future generations would be shocked to find out Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all time. Like that movie is just so much of a relic of the late 2000s at this point.
    Nothing special about the disney star wars movies or any marvel movie for that matter either. They would only be the highest grossing movies because of popularity, just like avatar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Long John Silvers Rayleigh View Post
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    Kind of late but I got the exact opposite idea from what he did. The 1 in a 14 million chance (to stop thanos from gaining all the stones) was squandered when Starlord messed up his own plan and he knew thanos would get the stones anyway so he saved starks life
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    Nah, I'm sure that was part of Strange's plan. If Star-Lord's screw-up really caused Thanos to win (as in, permanently, not whatever's happening right now where it looks like he won but we know he's going to lose in the long run), Strange would have seen that and counted it among the 14 million+ "bad ending" scenarios. (Don't forget, the "one" scenario he saw was in answer to Tony's question of "How many do we win?", not "How many have us stopping him from getting the Stones?" Them ultimately winning in the end doesn't necessarily mean that Thanos doesn't get all the Stones first.) On my last re-watch of the movie, I noticed that Strange was...not quite smirking, but definitely looking satisfied when he got Thanos to take the Stone and leave. Like it's what he was hoping for. I don't think just saving Tony's life would have been enough for that reaction if Strange was knowingly handing over one of the last pieces Thanos needed to kill trillions upon trillions of innocent people.

    Not to mention, Strange had it stored in some kind of pocket dimension where Thanos probably couldn't get to it easily. After his promise to protect the Stone, if Star-Lord blew the one chance he saw for them to win, it makes more sense to me that Strange would do anything he could to delay Thanos further from getting it, to hopefully buy some time for him to be stopped a different way.

    His "Tony, there was no other way" seemed like a "Tony, [I know watching all of us disappear in front of you is really horrifying and looks like all hope is lost, but] there was no other way [for us to win eventually. This is literally the only option I saw that will ultimately work ou for us.]"

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    On another note, saw Deadpool 2 yesterday. Really liked it! I'm sure I'll re-see it with another friend this weekend. More emotional beats in this one, it felt like, but they worked and were enjoyable. Like the new characters, too. And yes, the credits scene was amazing.
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