Naruto and Bleach: Let's put this thread to bed I

[Hisoga]

Because both of them were good guys...madara is a bad guy. Think of him like the last villian. Orochimaru was always weaker than madara so I dont think how you can include him in this debate while the 4th hokage loses out because he is the father of naruto.

Because Oro killed 3rd?! good guys?Bad guys? we are talking about "Ideal" here... Nothing to do with good guy or bad guy.. and final villain? are you joking? you are really don't understand what "ideal" in Tsunade words are. this is enough.. good day sir..

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Dude, being an ideal person and being an ideal to a person are two different things. Madara is not an ideal to any one, everything happening right now is part of his plan.
You don't see anyone going like: "Ahh, madara, my hero. One day I wanna be like you @_@". Comparing him to Roger is dump.

Seriously, this whole discussion is dump.

sound like Tobi...

[asm00200]

sound like Tobi...

No, Tobito took Madara's name and went to fulfill a certain role in "Madara's plan". That's basically all he has done till now.

[Hisoga]

No, Tobito took Madara's name and went to fulfill a certain role in "Madara's plan". That's basically all he has done till now.

my post is just a joke... don't be so serious....

[AlucarDraculA]

okay, this has been bugging me for awhile, but... Karin's reason for joining up with Sasuke and ignoring his hideous evilness for so long is because..? someone please tell me it wasn't just because he was the first person she saw after putting on glasses and she thought he "looked cool" or something like that. I mean, sure he saved her but.. that flashback feels unnatural. Shoehorned in at a point that makes no sense. that animal doesn't even look it belongs in the forest.

Because she is obsessed with Sasuke to the point where she keeps rags with his blood on them and tries to rape him.

["Fire Fist" Ace]

okay, this has been bugging me for awhile, but... Karin's reason for joining up with Sasuke and ignoring his hideous evilness for so long is because..? someone please tell me it wasn't just because he was the first person she saw after putting on glasses and she thought he "looked cool" or something like that. I mean, sure he saved her but.. that flashback feels unnatural. Shoehorned in at a point that makes no sense. that animal doesn't even look it belongs in the forest.

Suigetsu implies that they may have had a relationship in the past, but Karin decks him before he can finish his thought and he never mentions it again.

[IceBorg]

And what has Karin done since then?

[Cyan D. Funk]

Because she is obsessed with Sasuke to the point where she keeps rags with his blood on them and tries to rape him.

Karin is Kishimoto's self-insert.

[Shezar]

And what has Karin done since then?

Letting other convicts taking bites of her .
She is supposedly in konoha prison or some cell.The other two must be on vacation.

[Cyclone_Baroness]

I had this random thought pop into my head last night. Did they mention how long ago Ginjo was a Substitute? For some reason I felt like they mentioned that he was a Substitute a really long time ago. Or that it was implied that it was a long time ago. I suppose he could have been one as a teen, since he seems to be an adult now. So is Ginjo immortal? In the sense that he doesn't age, if that's true. Will that happen to Ichigo?

[Narutossss]

No, Tobito took Madara's name and went to fulfill a certain role in "Madara's plan". That's basically all he has done till now.

There are still guys who think obito is tobi?

[MetaMario]

I had this random thought pop into my head last night. Did they mention how long ago Ginjo was a Substitute? For some reason I felt like they mentioned that he was a Substitute a really long time ago. Or that it was implied that it was a long time ago. I suppose he could have been one as a teen, since he seems to be an adult now. So is Ginjo immortal? In the sense that he doesn't age, if that's true. Will that happen to Ichigo?

Well, we weren't given an exact time as to when Kugo was serving as a Substitute.....all we know is he served before Ichigo, most likely before he was born? That's my guess. As for the aging thing, since he was a Substitute...and not a full-fledged Shinigami, that means he wasn't dead. (meaning, he doesn't have slowed-down aging Shinigami have) I wouldn't put your teen to adult guess out of the ballpark.

I predict that we'll learn the whole Ginjou story when Kubo decides to show some of Isshin's past. I mean, the former spoke in the beginning of this arc as if he knew more about Ichigo's father than Ichigo himself.

[IceBorg]

There are still guys who think obito is tobi?
http://three-ninjas.co.uk/wp-content...e_facepalm.jpg

Ill remember this post don't worry.

[sanji499]

Letting other convicts taking bites of her .
She is supposedly in konoha prison or some cell.The other two must be on vacation.

Does she even have a named attack ?

[Narutossss]

Ill remember this post don't worry.

Don't worry Iceborg when tobi takes off his mask and he's not obito I'll make sure to post a big FAT I told you so.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

Given how Kishi's great master plan was a mewten pokemon in the moon joke the forum guessed long ago...I wouldn't bet on some super clever twist if I were you.

[Narutossss]

At the same time thinking tobi is obito just based on the fact that they have similar names and are from the uchiha clan, is all kinds of stupid.

[Phoenix Zoan]

It's Naruto. If it's all kinds of stupid. That's what it will end up being.

[Thousand Lion-chan]

All kinds of stupid? Sounds like Naruto to me.

[Phoenix Zoan]

All kinds of stupid? Sounds like Naruto to me.

Indeed, when I made the Mewten in the moon prediction it wasn't because I thought what would be a epic storytelling twist. I made it thinking what would be a really stupid thing to happen. You can imagine how big I was facepalming when the Mewten in the moon confirmation chapter happened.

[piratemarimo]

wow Karin is creepier than I remembered. Also, she vaguely reminds me of Grell. Coincidence?