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    This thread is here for easy access/reference to the bounties of each round and use if you'd like to discuss/work with others to figure out the formula we're using to assign bounties.

    An event mod will continue to update this post with the newest matches' bounties. Maybe we can figure out other things to update the first post with - I'm not sure yet. Ubiq is also much more into the bounty aspect of the matches than I am so he may decide to take control and put other ideas into place to make this more helpful. Some of us may come in at certain points and give you guys hints if you guys are no where near the point of figuring the formula out. Most likely in the form of yes or no questions.

    Some people may not wish to discuss what work they've done to try and figure out the formula in hopes of being first. That's fine. But that doesn't mean you should come in here and say "EEEERRRRRRRRR WRONG THATS SO RWRONG." That goes for putting people down overall and being rude. You'll be dismissed from the thread permanently.

    Akagami figured out the first round formula so if he wants to share the answer he got for that he may do so and if he wants I'll put it into this post. Either way. It may help some people in figuring out what types of variables to think of.

    Anyways, this'll probably be updated quite a bit over the next day or so until we have some sort of outline figured out. For now, feel free to discuss. I would also very much recommend using and referencing Ubiq's Statistics Thread while looking for numbers and trying out variables. It'll save you a tremendous amount of time.

    Round 2 Bounties (so far):
    Garp 41,920,000
    Franky 39,070,000
    Shackey 11,090,000
    Rayleigh 33, 580,000
    Enel 15,280,000
    Makino 21,210,000
    Sanji 22,120,000
    Usopp 36,070,000
    Moriah 11,410,000
    Bon Kurei 27,080,000
    Crocodile 46,170,000
    Doflamingo 17,180,000
    Aokiji 20,070,000
    Sabo 25,750,000
    Hancock 16,420,000
    X. Drake 13,040,00
    Fisher Tiger 21,850,000
    Luffy 42,940,000


    Round 1 Bounties:
    Hidden:

    Doflamingo: 6,660,000
    Bepo: 6,300,000
    Jango: 3,080,000
    Fisher Tiger: 13,920,000
    Mihawk: 7,320,000
    Hachi: 4,500,000
    Shirahoshi: 2,640,000
    Shackey: 4,020,000
    Hannyabal: 3,840,000
    Benn: 5,730,000
    Garp: 21,120,000
    Smoker: 14,820,000
    X. Drake: 5,610,000
    Perona: 3,120,000
    Makino: 3,640,000
    Dragon: 13,620,000
    Bon Kurei: 17,280,000
    Hililuk:4,960,000
    Paulie: 3,760,000
    Vista: 7,020,000
    Momonga: 2,780,000
    Enel: 7,500,000
    Tom: 8,250,000
    Laboon: 4,200,000
    Rayleigh: 17,580,000
    Jimbe: 10,620,000
    Bonney: 5,820,000
    Hancock: 6,120,000
    Luffy: 24,900,000
    Kizaru:6,600,000
    Magellan: 14,220,000
    Hattori: 3,200,000
    Otohime: 7,320,000
    Buggy: 6,750,000
    Franky: 23,600,000
    Shanks: 7,290,000
    Akainu: 3,700,00
    Arlong: 4,640,000
    Ryuuma: 5,700,000
    Dr. Kureha: 3,800,000
    Sanji: 13,500,000
    Crocus: 3,940,000
    Usopp: 22,500,000
    Zeff: 5,940,000
    Roger: 6,210,000
    Sabo: 14,880,000
    Aokiji: 14,940,000
    Pandaman: 5,130,000
    Inazuma: 11,700,000
    Law: 16,020,000
    Brook: 14,280,000
    Hiking Bear: 3,260,000
    Crocodile: 15,240,000
    Whitebeard: 26,000,000
    Robin: 17,460,000
    Mr. 3: 3,880,000
    Ivankov: 16,260,000
    Norland: 7,500,000
    Ace: 3,320,000
    Moriah: 3,880,000
    Nami: 13,320,000
    Kidd: 6,360,000
    Kuma: 16,980,000
    Zoro: 13,560,000
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    Default Re: Bounty Formula Discussion Thread

    the 1st round bounties formula is
    Quote Originally Posted by akagami7 View Post
    Ok, the bounties are
    If the character ended first in the preliminaries, his bounty is his number of votes x60000
    If ended second---x30000
    If ended third---x20000
    It seems that the 2nd round bounties aren't related with the number of votes, at least not like in the first round.
    I noticed that rayleigh bounties are pretty similar,
    in the first round he has 17,580,000
    in the second round 33,580,000

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    Having fun with math...hell yeah :)
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    @akagami: and did you figure out why the bounties of WB, Usopp, Franky and Luffy were the way they were? Not saying that's important or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eerie View Post
    @akagami: and did you figure out why the bounties of WB, Usopp, Franky and Luffy were the way they were? Not saying that's important or not.
    No, I figure the other bountys before their matches, so I forgot about them.

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    This is all just a plan to distract me from making campaigns.
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    It's OFFICIAL, UsoppXNami 4ever.

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    I am going to avoid this thread for a bit. It might suck me in! D:
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    Here it goes again. I remember trying and failing miserably last year. It was quite easy at first and then Ubiq just kept on making it harder and harder. I wasted hours for nothing. )-:
    And I'll do again, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eerie View Post
    @akagami: and did you figure out why the bounties of WB, Usopp, Franky and Luffy were the way they were? Not saying that's important or not.
    Because all of them are former champions?
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    Well, since they are former champions they didn't compete in the prelims. Consequentially, the same formula couldn't directly be applied to them. I haven't looked in the details though. Just checking the other bounties for extreme changes right now. Cases like the boost in the Makino bounty tend to be a good starting point to identify one of the variables (assuming it's multiple ones again).

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    I don't understand anything.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MANUELF View Post
    Because all of them are former champions?
    Well then why were they all different?

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    The Round 1 opponent appears to play into the equation somehow. Take a look at this:

    Crocodile 46,170,000 - 15,240,000 = 30,930,000 (Whitebeard) 2600
    Garp 41,920,000 - 21,120,000 = 20,800,000 (Smoker) 1482
    Luffy 42,940,000 - 24,900,000 = 18,040,000 (Kizaru) 660
    Makino 21,210,000 - 3,640,000 = 17,570,000 (Dragon) 1362
    Rayleigh 33, 580,000 - 17,580,000 = 16,000,000 (Jinbei) 1062

    Franky 39,070,000 - 23,600,000 = 15,470,000 (Shanks) 729

    Usopp 36,070,000 - 22,500,000 = 13,570,000 (Zeff) 594

    Ivankov - 28,590,000 - 16,260,000 = 12,330,000 (Noland) 750
    Nami 24,700,000 - 13,320,000 = 11,380,000 (Kid) 636
    Sabo 25,750,000 - 14,880,000 = 10,870,000 (Roger) 621
    Doflamingo 17,180,000 - 6,660,000 = 10,520,000 (Bepo) 630

    Hancock 16,420,000 - 6,120,000 = 10,300,000 (Bonney) 582
    Sanji 22,120,000 - 13,500,000 = 8,620,000 (Crocus) 394
    Arlong - 12,970,000 - 4,640,000 = 8,330,000 (Akainu) 370
    Fisher Tiger 21,850,000 - 13,920,000 = 7,930,000 (Jango) 308
    Beckman 13,650,000 - 5,730,000 = 7,920,000 (Hannyabal) 384
    Enel 15,280,000 - 7,500,000 = 7,780,000 (Momonga) 278

    Moriah 11,410,000 - 3,880,000 = 7,530,000 (Ace) 332

    Shackey 11,090,000 - 4,020,000 = 7,070,000 (Shirahoshi) 264
    Aokiji 20,070,000 - 14,940,000 = 5,130,000 (Pandaman) 513
    ---
    Bon 27,080,000 - ??? =
    X Drake 13,040,000 - ??? =

    Above, I sorted the list by highest bountry increase to lowest increase. I then compared the bounties of their Round 1 opponents, which is the numerical value on the far right. Ehhh, doesn't tell us much, as Kizaru, Zeff and Pandaman appear to be major anomalies BUT:


    Prelim Ranks:
    Smoker 247
    Dragon 227
    Kizaru 220 (<- Oh look!)

    Eustass Kid 212

    Bepo 210
    Roger 207

    Zeff 198

    Crocus 197
    Hannyabal 192
    Akainu 185
    Jinbe 177
    Pandaman 171

    Ace 166
    Shirahoshi 132

    ---

    Shanks

    Momonga

    Jango

    Bonney

    Noland


    I'll do some more, but this appears to be a solid lead.

    --- Update From New Post Merge ---

    Damn in this case, Jinbei becomes an anomaly... Hmmm...

    --- Update From New Post Merge ---

    Oh crap, I just noticed Aokiji's bounty is simple an addition of Pandaman's...

    Here's an EtherPad we can use for notes, if you guys want:

    http://ietherpad.com/jRHSiyOZV8

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    I noticed the Pandaman increase on Aokiji's bounty, as well. It could be a coincidence but it does some a good lead for now. Maybe the prior rankings still play into it. Aokiji was first in the prelims while Pandaman was third, so maybe defeating him doesn't count as much as defeating someone who ranked higher or equal in the prelims.

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    You have a point, but that doesn't say much for Luffy's increase. I'm guessing the raw vote count comes into play somewhere, but how is the question.

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    Seriously! I don't like math and I'm not gonna calculate stuff now, but I like how people put science into some relatively trivial events.
    Although I've gotta admit, that this is my first character tournament on AP forums that I'm actually following. So just noob talks over here. :d

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    I insisted that the bounties actually be solvable this year, so that it remains an actual fun game to participate in, so its a *little* less complex than it was last year. For this round anyway. Long as you guys stay positive and keep at it, you should be able to figure it out. Good luck!

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    Yeah... The last one was crafted by an evil genius.

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    I have to ask. Is Aokiji's bounty correct? It throws everything else I've got off for a loop. :\

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    This is too much for my poor head, I don't know where to start! - ah, what the heck, let's do this.

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