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    I really liked that flashback.
    Though i didn't really understand Luffy's move,is that an explosion or fire?
    And what is this daidaros thing you are talking about?

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    One piece, where fire is created in the ocean. That aside though, awesome chapter I think I really felt the mood it was trying to give the viewer.

    If Luffy truly punched a hole through him theres two possibilities I see happening

    1. Hody actually dies from that and we get a glimpse of a new more violent and prepared for the New World-Luffy (Unlikely in my opinion, I believe Oda will keep his theme of Luffy defeating rather than killing)

    2. Hody will be defeated and have lost lots of blood, and he would wake up to discover that after a series of events the Strawhats have donated their blood (preferably Luffy) to him. This could lead to other possibilities such as Hody being enraged and vowing to chase the strawhats making him a lesser rival of sorts in which I would see it being less tense (as in under certain situations he could help, ex. Crocodile in impel down) Or I would really like to see a friendlier relationship developed between the Strawhats and NFP which in my opinion would show the true strength of the strawhats in their ability to gain allies anywhere.
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    Wow, I kinda hope that's the end for Hodi cause that would make for a great climax to the fight! Better still, it was preceded by a nice flashback. I liked the look into Hodi's character. He's a pitiful bastard, but it's nice to see that how he came to be that way.
    Eventually all Shonen will get the Dragonball Kai treatment. I'm currently awaiting the perfection that will be One Piece with no filler whatsoever.

    I'm also awaiting Bleach Kai. It will be the greatest joke in anime when it's ends in under 50 episodes. It'll be a great laugh.

  4. #84

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    Thank gog his FB lasted half a chapter. The last panel was so epic. Does Zoro look injured ?

    I would not mind if this arc ends now.
    Btw, where is Caribou ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skadi View Post
    Even if Shyari IS younger than 30, you do realize she can go mermaid mode again whenever she pleases, right?
    But she moves around on a bubble on Fishman island. Why would she do that if her tail was split? As I said it seems like a minor mistake on Oda's side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choperman View Post
    oh and who noticed much's friend the squid next to him here

    http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/82338206/6
    lol good catch dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    I really liked that flashback.
    Though i didn't really understand Luffy's move,is that an explosion or fire?
    And what is this daidaros thing you are talking about?
    Daidaros is the squid next to ikaros in page 7. He´s his best friend and was first (and till now only) time seen on chapter 630. He went dry for going too close to the sun and his loss turned Ikaros into a pyro-phobic

    Quote Originally Posted by Barkworm View Post
    But she moves around on a bubble on Fishman island. Why would she do that if her tail was split? As I said it seems like a minor mistake on Oda's side.
    Dunno, ask the mermaid who is with her kid on this page
    http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/616/2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkworm View Post
    But she moves around on a bubble on Fishman island. Why would she do that if her tail was split? As I said it seems like a minor mistake on Oda's side.
    to me the tail splitting thing is more of a workaround to allow them to move above the sea with humans. having awkward trousers and flipper feet seems less convinient than floating on a magic bubble everywhere.

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    Hot damn, the chapter was actually far better than I had imagined - and I was already expecting a great chapter even with just the script. That was the flashback I've been waiting for, Oda. Marvelous.

    Last page was jaw-dropping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    And what is this daidaros thing you are talking about?
    The squid-friend of Ikaros (dude with 8 arms) is Daidaros.
    Like Ikarus and Dädalus in greek mythology.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gold View Post
    One piece, where fire is created in the ocean.
    To me it seemed like Luffy and Hody were already in the giant bubble shot at Noah by the soldiers.
    That fire thing is either a haki-based-move like Marigold did (Boa sisters), or Luffy made an extra-hot G2-move.
    I prefer the latter one tbh.

    @Skadi
    If u ask me, merfolk uses those "bubble rings" to travel in air just like in water (u know, like 3-dimensional, imagine a swimming-ring for the air-floating).
    Maybe its easier for merfolk to travel in those bubble rings. I'd also prefer such kind of transportation device than using my foot (LAZY!!!).
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    The last chapter was perfect. And this chapter is icing and an already well made cake. Awesome!

    The flashback was great. Not only it got into Hodi's blind hatred, but the blind hatred of the entire Fishman Distict. That KKK moment was pretty damned chilling and Arlong's speech was dead scary. I could really see why Hodi doesn't want to lose... I imagine how he wrote out Arlong as thier hero after his defeat by Luffy. Then we move on to Bro-Hoshi's plea. It could almost feel his words and the way Luffy responded was just heartwarming(and awesome). That's how to write a story! Bravo! Bravo!

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    Amazing chapter the best of the last 2 months.
    It made you understand Hodi's motives and it made you feel the tension in fishman island.
    Oda proves once again why One Piece is one of the best manga if not the best in existance.

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    btw , who's Caribou ?:P

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    Gomu Gomu no Red Hawk!
    In the loving memory of Ace by his little brother.
    A proud fan of Kizaru, Whitebeard and Rayleigh!
    Quote Originally Posted by 1000sunny View Post
    And, oh, looks like Ichigo knows more than he is letting on and can't help but strike his signature pose: Loosely holding his sword, knees bent, with the dumbest look of shock on his face....Classic Bleach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nidhoeggr View Post
    And now: What are the true sources for the E.S.?
    Big mam's chocolate factory? Kaidou? Doflamingo? Maybe even the Celestial Dragons ("from the heavens"), who want to get rid of FI and make it seem like an inter-racial conflict?!
    From the FB, it looks like Hody got them roughly when Otohime died, so they've had them for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold View Post
    If Luffy truly punched a hole through him theres two possibilities I see happening

    1. Hody actually dies from that and we get a glimpse of a new more violent and prepared for the New World-Luffy (Unlikely in my opinion, I believe Oda will keep his theme of Luffy defeating rather than killing)

    2. Hody will be defeated and have lost lots of blood, and he would wake up to discover that after a series of events the Strawhats have donated their blood (preferably Luffy) to him. This could lead to other possibilities such as Hody being enraged and vowing to chase the strawhats making him a lesser rival of sorts in which I would see it being less tense (as in under certain situations he could help, ex. Crocodile in impel down) Or I would really like to see a friendlier relationship developed between the Strawhats and NFP which in my opinion would show the true strength of the strawhats in their ability to gain allies anywhere.
    3. More drugs and new form (like Frieza).

    And it's Shyari the official trans. ?

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    I honestly didn't think of KKK when I saw those masks. They reminded me too strong of the guards in ID, but now I see the connection with the torchs and stuff.
    Sum known Yonkou-theories that have my full support:
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    -Kaidou is Franky's dad, his initial colour is blue
    Here my link to this theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coruscation View Post
    Hody may or may not die but we should keep in mind Luffy "only" punched through him. Akainu created a head-sized hole in Ace's body and melted his insides. That's not something you survive (unless you're Whitebeard I guess) but Luffy himself has been stabbed right through more than once, even rebounding without the need for medical attention in Water Seven.
    True, we see what looks like spikes of torn flesh on Hody's back but it may be just a 'shockwave' type of effect and not actually punched through his body...though with Luffy's power that alone would cause great damage. I've looked and relooked at the back fo Hody's back and I do not see Luffy's fist comign through it. I see what looks like could be either torn flesh or (using previous Oda styles) a shockwave of the force of the punch to the stomach traveling through the body. I will withhold judgement on "did Luffy do an Akainu" until next chapter an Oda shows us more of what type of damage has been done.

    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Shirley(Shyari, whatev) is very small all of a sudden. http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/82338206/7
    I remember seeing Whiteebard's flashback at the end of war when he was younger with other crewmates that were same size as him. I thought then that maybe these larger than normal people were born same size as what we think as 'average-sized' and just kept growning. There is a paralel in real world, there is one type of Gigantism where the growth hormones don't stop; as kids they are normal sized but as their peers growth starts to slow down (mid/late teens for height is normal) they keep growing. I think that this could explain people like Shirley who are taller than a sibling and Whitebeard 3-4 times the height of average people, and even Shirohoshi a giantess born to an average sized mother (Oda said merfolk can interbreed with humans so I do not believe the "they came from laying eggs like fish do" theory).

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Darkwolf View Post
    Jimbei survived being punched through so there is precedence of a fishman surviving a hole in the chest .
    True and then we don't see where the punch to the abdomen landed, if more to the side, then the damage is different than Axe's which was a direct center shot and Ace said his internal organs were burned away. Say if Jinbe got hit on the side, it may have burned away only one kidney instead of most of the organs.

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    liked the chapter ,I was thinking since it's color/colour of armaments or however you spell it what if different colours are different powers like the possible blue elephant gun is harden , then red hawk/hook is fire/explosions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurohige32 View Post
    liked the chapter ,I was thinking since it's color/colour of armaments or however you spell it what if different colours are different powers like the possible blue elephant gun is harden , then red hawk/hook is fire/explosions
    the elephant gun hasn't been referred to as blue afaik. It looks as if the arm is jet black in both cases, the reason why it is called red hawk in this situation is partially for japanese naming reasons I don't understand and also because of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Redhawk
    elephant gun and snake shot are real things too.

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