Chapter 647: "Stop Noah"

[SSJLuffy]

You guys complain way too fucking much.

[Deviant_Mugen]

Personally, I liked the chapter a lot. As many people have already said, this isn't the end of the arc, just the fighting (for now, probably); there's still a lot of story to cover. The Sea Kings being sentient was a nice addition, especially if they know Noah's background. Luffy accomplished his goal and is now taking a well deserved nap, good for him. I chuckled at Franky feeling inadequate because his "mecha" looked small standing next to Chopper in Monster point. When Brook asked Nami to wear a mini-skirt I immediately thought back to Enies Lobby. Sorry, Soul King, but you missed your chance to peek at Nami's legs. As someone else said, I'm definitely looking forward to the story that's to come in the chapters ahead.

Also, Conis and Laki... yum. Wonder where Suu is, though...

[Katzztar]

@Katzztar: I actually feel pretty sorry for the people that don't like the story development pace that One Piece puts out. Sure I enjoyed the Marineford War arc, but it was only BECAUSE there had been such a build-up to it, establishing characters and whatnot. It's like, they're pretty much following the wrong manga. Go read Bleach or something ^_^;.

I actually felt like the battles in this arc were rushed, that there wasn't so much trouble or strife in beating the villains. Mainly to show that the old villains and their level are no match for the new SH pirates. I'm really looking forward to any developments on Big Mam, or the explanations for Noah. Maybe Fishmen will finally be able to surface?

LOL too true. There's plenty of action manga that focus only on the fights and not too concerned of a plot or a real character development. Some try to make a character development only to utterly fail ...thats why I'm having trouble reading Naruto. Loved the pre-timeskip. afterwards...no. I really tried to give another chance after finaly Hinata admitted her love of Naruto...but that development seemed to die off and be forgotten. Last I tried it was still Naruto beign idiot wanting to "save" a jerk the willingly betrayed his village and wanted to kill Naruto. nah I just gave up finally the humor and enjoyment of Naruto that existed before timeskip is long gone for me. They got too focused on just the action and forgot some character development.

I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
-Bill Cosby

I love that quote sicne its sooo true.

[Czechmate]

druggie who luffy could have easily defeated when ever he wanted.

God, I am so sick of hearing these kinds of comments.

[choperman]

I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

-Bill Cosby

I'm lovin the quote

[Ryuksgelus]

Who said "being exhausted" is wrong? Luffy started to pant after blocking Decken's axe in the tower. There is an indescribably massive difference between "being exhausted" or "tired" and LUFFY being brought to his limit. He will "later" be able to do big moves when injured because he'll be "stronger"? Oh man. This is the guy who 2 weeks after entering the Grand Line beat a Shichibukai through a dozen layers of bedrock uprooting a city block with a hole in his stomach, certainly a very great amount of blood loss and stone-melting poison in his veins. He was so badly worn down he could hardly move, which was not just extreme injuries but also severe strain on his body from extended G2 usage, when he fired off Jet Gatling Gun against Lucci. And now it's okay if he's done for after using one attack just because it's a big one? That would take his growth, resolve and all that and stamp it into the ground if he has as little endurance as that. How incredibly low standards are we supposed to hold Luffy to after a whole series of precedent? He took ONE ATTACK. A single attack from an enemy that's way below him in strength, and then "putting in a lot of effort" brings him to the edge? That is a joke. Or else the Gears are certainly extremely, extremely, extremely damaging to his body.

Hody landed one hit, the rest was ALL damage from the effort it took using Gear Third. His wound wasn't even open before he used it. Are you really saying that using G3 Gatling for a minute is somehow worse than taking extreme amounts of physical damage, severe blood loss, much more exhaustion and according to some maybe even the strain of Gear stacking in a fight against a serious opponent on his own level? It's insane to say that it's even remotely comparable. One minute you say? I'd expect his big battles to possibly last an hour, the Lucci fight was 30+ minutes and Ace and Jimbei of course fought for 5 days though however much we'll be seeing that again I'm not sure of.

Point isn't that him passing out doesn't make sense under those circumstances. It made perfect sense and has as much as precedent as one could ask for. Point is he came nowhere close to his true, in-battle limit. He just let himself go to sleep because the job was done. Noah would have been destroyed if he kept at it and you saw how much there was left, that says enough about how much power he had left.

You get way too hype when it's Luffy in question. Didn't Shirahoshi mention his wound was opening before he hit Hody two chapters ago.

Hody bit a pretty big wound in his upper body as you can see at the end of this chapter. Slinging around van sized fists that may weigh ungodly amounts tore the wound even more every time he punched. There could even be a negative consequence to using Haki besides possibly adding weight. A minute is a very long time for a consecutive attack Timeframe for Storm is less than 10 seconds for example because momentum dries up quick. All those battles you're expecting will involve thousands of attacks being exchanged, nobody will ever remain stationary for a full minute or more like a boat. The most concentrated focused looking attacks like Luffy attacking Admirals with stamp, Galaxy Wink, Kizaru laser barrage, Storm, Jet Gattling, etc. only last a few seconds.

[wolfwoof]

Hody may be weak but an open wound is still an open wound.

[Md-Martin]

Also remember, this arc is the one that Oda decided he would apply actual blood loss effects. Many people are assuming that Luffy will need a donation and it will be from a fishman. What better way to state "Luffy needs blood, and a fishman must quickly give it without hesitation" than having him pass out due to loss of blood.

[Louis cypher]

With all the fights that happened before, Luffy had to power through it because shit was still on the line, in this fight he could just take a nap right away, hell he took a nap right in the middle of his fight with Crocodile.

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house sized fists

corrected it for you.

[Coruscation]

Just want to put this out first for a reminder of Luffy's ability to take shark bites (he took a few before this as well) when things are really on the line. Just... yeah. This Luffy's about 854389789234 times weaker than the current one, too, might want to keep that in mind.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-2200-10/one-piece/chapter-93.html

Hody bit a pretty big wound in his upper body as you can see at the end of this chapter. Slinging around van sized fists that may weigh ungodly amounts tore the wound even more every time he punched. There could even be a negative consequence to using Haki besides possibly adding weight. A minute is a very long time for a consecutive attack.

Well I'm pretty sure however big the wound is now, it's way bigger than what Hody ripped up. And keep in mind the wound initially opened from just using G3. It happened before he started attacking at all. So I don't really see how you can deny that G3 seems to have a really big potential negative effect on him. Or is this one particular wound just so amazingly, ungodly horrible that it does things no other wound will? I find that hard to believe.

Anyway, you're just describing why it makes sense for Luffy to be damaged enough to go unconscious when he lets himself go. I'm not disagreeing with that. What I'm saying is only that that's nowhere near synonymous with Luffy being in a bad enough state to be unable to fight anymore. I'm saying if he had to keep going for a long-ass time, he would've done so. If Hody showed up and needed some more hitting, he would've hit him some more. Anything else would be a tremendous insult to the ungodly endurance that one should expect of a post-timeskip Luffy. Zoro stayed conscious through seven hells in Thriller Bark because shit (his life) was on the line, you're saying this was a tenth as bad as that? It's insane to even suggest.

[gotta<3OP]

Maybe because this entire arc has been pointless and could easily have been handled in half the chapters? I want to see the changes in the new world not see a druggie and luffy fighting who luffy could have easily defeated when ever he wanted. And the crews fights were stretched out as well.3/4 weeks for a one shot KO?

Why would you want to skip an entire arc?
And with all the conections to the world of One Piece. I still fail to see where is it that this arc has no point.

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And c'mon, Luffy just took a rest after trying to destroy a island sized ship. Can't you even do that?

[rubia_ryu]

I think some people are confusing taking a rest with hitting a limit. He may have fainted, but he hasn't reached any limit yet. If Luffy actually needs a blood transfusion, the significance behind it is purely symbolic of the changing attitude of the islanders. He'd still be fine without one.

Also, the arc isn't over until the fat fish sings.

[rizu]

They hope that Luffy will turns into Super Saiyan and raging on the island untill fishman island floats on the surface. All they want is nonstop actions just like in marineford, ok in bleach n naruto, from start to end of the arc - so that we can see strawhat fight all the time even on sunny having a party.

Gah, this is One Piece, and this is how Oda pleased us from the first chapter. U guys just popup out of nowhere after marineford and start complaining untill now.

[Bazoo]

Luffy's job was done. That's why he gave up and passed out. Isn't it obvious that he'd have just kept on going if he wasn't told to stop? Plus, it's a pretty consistent Oda thing: you know fight time's done when Luffy gets some shut eye.

[derkaiser94]

Surprised by how much Luffy is being affected by the damage he took. He's had worst really.

[Demonicpoodle]

I already have enough stress from the ironically stressful holidays; I don't need more coming from here. My ignore list is huge now.

So I'm wondering why that exact group of Sea Kings is showing up again...

Conspiracy Theory # 2: The Sea Kings are observing Luffy after taking a liking to him a LONG TIME ago. They follow Luffy closely behind him each arc making sure he doesn't mess anything up or get messed up.

THEY MOVED MERRY.

I never even thought about that second line. That's genius. I always thought it was a bit unexplained how that rickety ship got to Enies Lobby.

[GiantGuy]

Just thought of something - did we ever find out what the "giant shadow" lurking around Fishman Island, that Keimi mentioned at the start of the arc, was, or is Oda still owing us that explanation?

[dasia]

*plays Overtaken for the Sea Kings*

[diogosnt]

well we know that the fishmen can bite really hard like arlong, but the bite from hody was worse since he took the pills. so its not that unrealistic that luffy passes out.

[akagami7]

Dunno, I figured the Straw Hats would have a little "tour" of Mariejois as a preview of what's to come rather than them going there for the first time at the final battle. I mean Oda went out of his way to say it was exactly 10,000 metres above Fishman island and everything (makes me think there's some sort of lift via the Eve tree or something).

Oh and regarding the dojo, Hyouzo said he was the strongest 8 armed swordsman so that makes me think there are stronger fishmen swordsman with less limbs (of course that begs the question where the hell where they during the revolution but still...the fact that he went out of his way to say he was the strongest 8-armed swordsman rather than just strongest swordsman on Fishman island...)

I think what hyouzou meant was that he had to be a better swordsman because he knew how to use eight swords, the same that hachi said to zoro in arlong park.