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    Quote Originally Posted by rituel View Post
    both sanji and zoro can easily take on smoker if they have learned COA, if they do know COA then it all depends on how good smoker is in his fighting skills ( like speed agility reflex hit power etc ) he could seriously immobilize luffy or any other DF user if hes fast using his smoke (his fucking JUTE). But without the hitting power he couldn't even hold a candle against zoro or sanji.
    And we can assume his fighting skills are pretty damn good. This statement is so very groundless. Do you think Smoker has been doing nothing these past 2 years?
    The last time we saw him, he was being blocked by Hancock while so close to his goal of killing off Luffy - he would likely train to make sure that he can deal with haki users. There is no reason to think that he can't hit very hard, and many reasons to think that he can.
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    Yeah, Sanji should be able to negate Smokers abilities similar to how Ace did. Also, lightning is negatively charged(when it touches the ground). Smoke is made of out of particles that are usually neutral. So Smoke is attracted to lightning. Oda might work something out with that information if it ever came down to Nami and Smoker.

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    Yeah, Sanji should be able to negate Smokers abilities similar to how Ace did. Also, lightning is negatively charged(when it touches the ground). Smoke is made of out of particles that are usually neutral. So Smoke is attracted to lightning. Oda might work something out with that information if it ever came down to Nami and Smoker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesDking View Post
    Sanji uses fire so he should be able to hit Smoker CoA or no CoA haki.
    I see some people seriously underestimating Smoker and the rest of the Vas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shingai View Post
    Yeah, Sanji should be able to negate Smokers abilities similar to how Ace did. Also, lightning is negatively charged(when it touches the ground). Smoke is made of out of particles that are usually neutral. So Smoke is attracted to lightning. Oda might work something out with that information if it ever came down to Nami and Smoker.
    No,Diablo wouldnt work like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shingai View Post
    Yeah, Sanji should be able to negate Smokers abilities similar to how Ace did. Also, lightning is negatively charged(when it touches the ground). Smoke is made of out of particles that are usually neutral. So Smoke is attracted to lightning. Oda might work something out with that information if it ever came down to Nami and Smoker.

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    Yeah, Sanji should be able to negate Smokers abilities similar to how Ace did. Also, lightning is negatively charged(when it touches the ground). Smoke is made of out of particles that are usually neutral. So Smoke is attracted to lightning. Oda might work something out with that information if it ever came down to Nami and Smoker.
    Quote Originally Posted by Baou Zakurga View Post
    No,Diablo wouldnt work like that
    I agree with Baou Zakurga. For some obvious reasons ....
    1-Sanji is not a logia.
    2- When Smoker and Ace fought they fought with their powers: Smoke vs Fire, not a phyiscal fight.
    3- the Mera Mera no Mi would allow Ace to manipulate fire into forms, no way Sanji can create a fire net that would hold back ALL of the smoke that Smoker had created to catch Luffy back on Arabstra

    I will say it before someone else does, I do not think that Sanji will have both forms of Haki as some have wanted. There is no proof. Besides if Haki is suppose to be rare, even rarer to have more than one form. Fans of Sanji already claim that he has CoO(observation), but now people want to say he has CoA as well.... no proof,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katzztar View Post
    I agree with Baou Zakurga. For some obvious reasons ....
    1-Sanji is not a logia.
    2- When Smoker and Ace fought they fought with their powers: Smoke vs Fire, not a phyiscal fight.
    3- the Mera Mera no Mi would allow Ace to manipulate fire into forms, no way Sanji can create a fire net that would hold back ALL of the smoke that Smoker had created to catch Luffy back on Arabstra

    I will say it before someone else does, I do not think that Sanji will have both forms of Haki as some have wanted. There is no proof. Besides if Haki is suppose to be rare, even rarer to have more than one form. Fans of Sanji already claim that he has CoO(observation), but now people want to say he has CoA as well.... no proof,
    Rayleigh specifically said that everyone can use CoA and CoO, but not everyone will awaken that power, and some will only end up focusing on one aspect that they're good at. If Sanji's in the upper tier, I figured he'd get both, and we'd only see elements of having one or none from the weaker crew members. Luffy can use both now because he got specifically trained in it, which Zoro and Sanji haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarrot View Post
    ...he got specifically trained in it, which Zoro and Sanji haven't.
    We don't know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katzztar View Post
    I agree with Baou Zakurga. For some obvious reasons ....
    1-Sanji is not a logia.
    2- When Smoker and Ace fought they fought with their powers: Smoke vs Fire, not a phyiscal fight.
    3- the Mera Mera no Mi would allow Ace to manipulate fire into forms, no way Sanji can create a fire net that would hold back ALL of the smoke that Smoker had created to catch Luffy back on Arabstra

    I will say it before someone else does, I do not think that Sanji will have both forms of Haki as some have wanted. There is no proof. Besides if Haki is suppose to be rare, even rarer to have more than one form. Fans of Sanji already claim that he has CoO(observation), but now people want to say he has CoA as well.... no proof,
    Just saying we don't know what happened, that was only in the anime.
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    Smoker's weakness is not fire... Everyone knows that. One can say that smoke is diffused by fire, but fire generates smoke, so in fact Ace could have been weak to Smoker's ability. The fact that Ace escaped Smoker simply means that Ace was more nimble and witty than Smoker. (Their "battle" in the anime is not canon)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylishman View Post
    And we can assume his fighting skills are pretty damn good. This statement is so very groundless. Do you think Smoker has been doing nothing these past 2 years?
    The last time we saw him, he was being blocked by Hancock while so close to his goal of killing off Luffy - he would likely train to make sure that he can deal with haki users. There is no reason to think that he can't hit very hard, and many reasons to think that he can.
    My statement isn't groundless im basing it on the fact that hes still a vice admiral that's all. But there can be an exception like Garp but remember its an exception. Well if he is actually strong and can injure someone like Garp with his attacks then yea he can do some damage on sanji or zoro. But if he is just like rest of the vice-admirals (almost on equal level with the pre-time skip monster trio or max at the pacifista level) then hes just fodder lol. So there its not a groundless statement.
    Yea I agree that the chances of being equal to at least one monster trio is higher just because he is the "nemesis"

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