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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcelloF View Post
    Then ignore the porn.

    I'm just not a big fan of everything being explained by Devil Fruits, Haki and Vegapunk experiments. Something Oda keeps on doing more than at the start of the series. I cringe at the thought of him suddenly deciding to explain Gaimon's animals.
    Mermaids, Fishmen, Neptunians, Sky islands, assorted grand line anomalies?
    I guess you may want to quit reading the series before Vegapunk is introduced since he'll likely explain away Devil fruits and a lot of other things as well.
    To me a dragon made by a mad scientist is a heck of a lot more interesting than a "fantasy" dragon that exists because "it just does", but that's just me.
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    Wow, I did not expect Caesar Clown to look ike that.....freaking amazing and insane at the same time. Is his overall appearance suppose to resemble some japanese folklore ghost or a jester? He really is like a god/savior to his subordinates but in reality, he is a psycho who wants defamed Vegapunk. Love his laugh, SHULOLOLOLOL! XD And Smoker Tashigi with unbutton shirt is HAWT and BADASS! *smirk*
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    The fact that Law created them should have been clear from the very moment we saw one of them was Brownbeard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheep View Post
    ...because Brownbeard said that Law did it?
    I tend to trust the stuff that Oda wrote, but hey, maybe that's just me!
    If you're seeing a line there that explicitly states it was done by Law without any help of any kind then I guess it is just you.

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    Btw, the fact that Caesar mentioned getting permission, is this another mistranslation, or is he actually someone's subordinate?
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    Something I found

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will-o%27-the-wisp

    And his name could be Kin'emon

    So maybe he has a kitsune fruit instead of tanuki

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    Quote Originally Posted by minor_runes View Post
    Mermaids, Fishmen, Neptunians, Sky islands, assorted grand line anomalies?
    I guess you may want to quit reading the series before Vegapunk is introduced since he'll likely explain away Devil fruits and a lot of other things as well.
    To me a dragon made by a mad scientist is a heck of a lot more interesting than a "fantasy" dragon that exists because "it just does", but that's just me.
    My "everything" was a hyperbole. I know there are some things still allowed to have a sense of mystery about them, and I know the Devil Fruits will be explained and I'll definitely be disappointed by that, but that doesn't mean I hate the series, I just miss some things being simpler.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Faruway View Post
    Wow, I did not expect Caesar Clown to look ike that.....freaking amazing and insane at the same time. Is his overall appearance suppose to resemble some japanese folklore ghost or a jester? He really is like a god/savior to his subordinates but in reality, he is a psycho who wants defamed Vegapunk. Love his laugh, SHULOLOLOLOL! XD And Smoker Tashigi with unbutton shirt is HAWT and BADASS! *smirk*
    He looks to me like a fawn with a bit of kabuki influence in the features wearing a gaseous labcoat/toga.
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    Will someone translate the New World Times?? I reallly have to read it all, but I can't read japanese yet.

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    I think the dragon made Vegapunk a lot more interesting to me as well, how did he make it, why did he make it?
    Maybe he made it after a real dragon? Oh the mystery~

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcelloF View Post
    My "everything" was a hyperbole. I know there are some things still allowed to have a sense of mystery about them, and I know the Devil Fruits will be explained and I'll definitely be disappointed by that, but that doesn't mean I hate the series, I just miss some things being simpler.
    I imagine there will be plenty of mysteries left regardless, and knowing Oda he might give explanations that will just raise more questions.
    Keeping things simple over such long stretch would have grown incredibly repetitive imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minor_runes View Post
    If you're seeing a line there that explicitly states it was done by Law without any help of any kind then I guess it is just you.
    ...what?
    Brownbeard flat out said it was laws ability that did it. There is no reason to think that CC was involved in the process of creating centaurs.
    Actually, It's you who makes the assumption. The current chapters and dialog all suggest that I'm right, so why are you making assumptions?
    Again, this shit is not even important, it was a bit of information to explain to us the deal with the centaurs. There is no reason for Oda now to focus on this again. Law did it, that was the info he was trying to get across. I would be extremely surprised if the anatomy of the centaurs is brought up again during this chapter, because it would be pointless. They are fodders, the only thing interesting about them was what the fuck they are exactly. That was now explained, and I'm a little disappointed about that, because he already had a much more doable and interesting setting with the whole Dr. Moriarty thing going on.


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    One thing that I think some poeple heve understood wrong: Law created the creatures with his hability, not his DF hability, meaning that since he is a great doctor just like Hogback he patched the animal parts in operations. Had he do it with the Ope-Ope no mi, those guys would not be able to move their legs at will.

    Great and amazing chapter, by the way. It seems that there is someone who is even above Caesar, Law and Joker, a really powerfull guy or entity. He will be the one who have Law's crew and made him work for them I suppose. Caesar's dessign is cool, and dare I say, it reminds me Orochimaru a lot!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minor_runes View Post
    Keeping things simple over such long stretch would have grown incredibly repetitive imo.
    I've got to agree with this. Take a simple reality twist and turn it and leave some questions to be answered and you'll have a lot of people tailing your path. I suppose that's more or less what succesful story telling is about. Of course consistency has to happen but it doesn't have to superseed the world that its designed for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcelloF View Post
    I just checked CCC's translation and I guess I was right about the translation being typical Mangapanda:


    Howthe hell did they get to Will-'o'-The-Wispkineman?

    OH WOW! Man I don't know a lick of Japanese but "Strangely Dressed" and Will-O the Wiswhatever is two totally different things ....

    Really is a shame though,ive been waiting for more development on our Samurai friend for awhile now,namely...His name lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheep View Post
    ...what?
    Brownbeard flat out said it was laws ability that did it. There is no reason to think that CC was involved in the process of creating centaurs.
    Actually, It's you who makes the assumption. The current chapters and dialog all suggest that I'm right, so why are you making assumptions?
    Again, this shit is not even important, it was a bit of information to explain to us the deal with the centaurs. There is no reason for Oda now to focus on this again. Law did it, that was the info he was trying to get across.
    I would be extremely surprised if the anatomy of the centaurs is brought up again during this chapter, because it would be pointless. They are fodders, the only thing interesting about them was what the fuck they are exactly. That was now explained, and I'm a little disappointed about that, because he already had a much more doable and interesting setting with the whole Dr. Moriarty thing going on.
    Settle down sparky, all I said is that we aren't given a definitive answer one way or another. If you feel differently based on that throwaway line that's fine too, no need to get all riled up about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roro Chan View Post
    This chapter is really interesting, and the info who's been given will be important for the future!
    that guy Ceasar seems to be an asshole who wanna do something to the tenryuubito to prove he is better than vegapunk
    but something important to know is when Chopper who healed the scratch luffy got from the sword of the tako guy and chopper said that luffy seems to be immunate from poison that is something to keep in mind, which will be interesting if Luffy and co have to fight against ceasar!
    http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/610/4
    Being highly resistant to poison doesn't make you highly resistant to nerve gas, which, I'm guessing, Caesar more or less will turn out being. He's a nerve gas, that, I'm guessing, will allow him to make people hallucinate too. (Caesar will probably make Luffy hallucinate seeing Ace die during Marineford--or something to do with Ace).

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    Thank you so much ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by minor_runes View Post
    Settle down sparky, all I said is that we aren't given a definitive answer one way or another. If you feel differently based on that throwaway line that's fine too, no need to get all riled up about it.
    lol sparky
    How about actually addressing my points, instead of accusing me of getting riled up about it (because I said "what the fuck"?)
    One thing that I think some poeple heve understood wrong: Law created the creatures with his hability, not his DF hability, meaning that since he is a great doctor just like Hogback he patched the animal parts in operations. Had he do it with the Ope-Ope no mi, those guys would not be able to move their legs at will.
    ugh, of course. Afterall, the dude is a doctor, I guess this makes a lot of sense.


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    How the hell do you actually make a dragon any how?

    Is the dragon originally a man? Did they cross-breed a dinosaur and a guard dog? Did they make a chemical instamix, add water to make dragon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheep View Post
    lol sparky
    How about actually addressing my points, instead of accusing me of getting riled up about it (because I said "what the fuck"?)
    I already addressed your points, you are free to interpret that line however you like.
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