Anime Censoring Compared to the Manga

[Galaxy 9000]

I agree. I remember watching when the anime first came out in the USA, I stopped watching it after the fight between Zoro and Mihawk. 4Kids had removed out all the blood and so when Zoro fell I, and many others, were "WTF! he fainted/passed out because his shirt was ripped?" PATHETIC. Even a bit of blood in that scene would say that big cut and it scratched him for so little blood so why the scar? Just a brief glimpse of blood shows how badly he was injured and made it more realistic and explained why he was so injured. And no, I am not a teenager who watches it just for blood. I was already an adult when I tried to watch it.


I still haven't returned to watching full time. So I've not seen reacent issues,

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if they are cutting down on showing blood, how are they handling Mr. Nosebleed moments? And if one thinks showing blood desn't affect the show, think of the ending moments that define the arc ... the lack of blood would/will cheapen the meaning in that moment=
When Luffy has lsot so much blood and needs a transfusion so Jinbe ignores the rule of not giving blood to humans and steps forward.

They still have plenty of blood, but the problem is that people want excessive blood. We don't need a crap load of blood flying out of people every time they're cut or hit or any of that sort, unless the scene calls for it. Nobody really needs to see the princes splattered in blood.

Mr. Nosebleed moments were kept in.

[goty]

Maybe some animators hold back on it more than others.

That's pretty much it. Katsumi Ishizuka, Masayuki Takagi and Kenji Yokoyama usually do more blood than Naoki Tate or Kazuya Hisada, for instance. It has always been like this, since the very beginning.

[TheCrystalShip]

Also, I never understood why the brothers were able to fight, and take even more hits from Hody, after what happened in the plaza...

Oh wait, this is One Piece.

[Mikey D. Luffy]

I dont want to see blood because it's cool nobody wants, I want to see blood because it makes the anime more realistic and mature. Actualy when I was 13 years old I watched One Piece and because of the amount of blood they shown back then I thouth it was targeted for teenagers between 14-18 years old but now, specialy since the new world saga began it seems like a kids show. Btw if you don't care about censorship what are you doing here?

Okay. First of all, One Piece is a show for kids. Japan is getting heavier with censorship lately so don't be surprised. It's not like blood could save the show from being ass now anyway.

Secondly, since when was One Piece a "mature" anime? Do you know what mature anime is? One Piece isn't seinen. As a shonen title, what's going on now actually fits the bill whether any of us like it or not.

Lastly, how is One Piece realistic? How does blood make things realistic? There are plenty of attacks in One Piece that would kill someone in real life ten times over. How the hell is that realistic?

[Maron]

No, because Toei keeps saving on animation and removing stuff that makes the scenes just that little bit more believable. One Piece has its cheerful comedy moments, and its dark omfg-no moments. Fishman Island as a whole is being sugar-coated left and right. The tension is being dragged out all over. If characters looked seriously messed up rather than this 4kids-style 'oops I was knocked out' sort of stuff, it simply is more enjoyable because the danger actually seems real inside the OP world. As it is, I keep waiting for the Usopp 10,000 Ton Hammer, or the likes of Foxy.

Obviously, I am not pieceluffy, but it is how I feel about the animes handling of this arc. I want to see the grit of Thriller Bark. The destruction of Enies Lobby. The pain of the final battle with Kuma at Sabaody Archipelago.

This is Fishman Island. An arc people have waited for for a long time, with tons of dark history belying it. And Toei does not deliver with that.

Tons of people shat on Oda for FI in the manga too. Let's not act like that arc is some great masterpiece now that the anime has gotten to it. If people weren't crazy about ti in the manga, no way in hell they'd be able to tolerate the anime.

Okay. First of all, One Piece is a show for kids.

Wrong. One Piece is a manly show for grown-ups.

[LegendarySogeKing]

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I agree. I remember watching when the anime first came out in the USA, I stopped watching it after the fight between Zoro and Mihawk. 4Kids had removed out all the blood and so when Zoro fell I, and many others, were "WTF! he fainted/passed out because his shirt was ripped?" PATHETIC. Even a bit of blood in that scene would say that big cut and it scratched him for so little blood so why the scar? Just a brief glimpse of blood shows how badly he was injured and made it more realistic and explained why he was so injured. And no, I am not a teenager who watches it just for blood. I was already an adult when I tried to watch it.


I still haven't returned to watching full time. So I've not seen reacent issues, if they are cutting down on showing blood, how are they handling Mr. Nosebleed moments? And if one thinks showing blood desn't affect the show, think of the ending moments that define the arc ... the lack of blood would/will cheapen the meaning in that moment=
When Luffy has lsot so much blood and needs a transfusion so Jinbe ignores the rule of not giving blood to humans and steps forward.

Wow man put a spoiler on that shit what the hell.

Seriously that kind of stuff ruins the fun for me and a lot of people even if it is "minor"

[pieceluffy]

Okay. First of all, One Piece is a show for kids. Japan is getting heavier with censorship lately so don't be surprised. It's not like blood could save the show from being ass now anyway.

Secondly, since when was One Piece a "mature" anime? Do you know what mature anime is? One Piece isn't seinen. As a shonen title, what's going on now actually fits the bill whether any of us like it or not.

Lastly, how is One Piece realistic? How does blood make things realistic? There are plenty of attacks in One Piece that would kill someone in real life ten times over. How the hell is that realistic?

1. Its not realistic in that way, I just want their injuries to look more realistic for example when they get cut they bleed thats what I want to say when i say realistic.
2. As you said One Piece is a shonen and usualy a shonen is a show for teenagers not for kids, there are 3 tipes of animes: kodomo(for kids), shonen(for teenagers) and seinen(for adults)

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They still have plenty of blood, but the problem is that people want excessive blood.

Nobody wants excessive blood, personaly I dont like what they are doing because they are censoring a masterpiece, by saying that you mean that Oda(the original author of One Piece) shows excessive blood!

[AkumaMiltos]

Even after censoring so many stuff we still see boobies.

[MasterKingJC]

Wow man put a spoiler on that shit what the hell.

Seriously that kind of stuff ruins the fun for me and a lot of people even if it is "minor"

^This.
Yeah, some members seem to keep forgeting that this is the anime section and that there are a handful of members who only watch the anime.
Even though I myself read the manga and watch the anime, I'm still courteous enough to use spoiler tags.

1. Its not realistic in that way, I just want their injuries to look more realistic for example when they get cut they bleed thats what I want to say when i say realistic.

If the injuries in One Piece were realistic, then most of the main characters would be covered from head to toe in scars.

2. As you said One Piece is a shonen and usualy a shonen is a show for teenagers not for kids, there are 3 tipes of animes: kodomo(for kids), shonen(for teenagers) and seinen(for adults)

Shonen manga is mostly marketed toward boys ages 10 and up, so you're not too far off on that one.

Nobody wants excessive blood, personaly I dont like what they are doing because they are censoring a masterpiece, by saying that you mean that Oda(the original author of One Piece) shows excessive blood!

You seriously need to watch the Toriko anime. It'll make you appreciate the amount of blood the anime still shows in comparison to that.

[pieceluffy]

^This.

If the injuries in One Piece were realistic, then most of the main characters would be covered from head to toe in scars.


You seriously need to watch the Toriko anime. It'll make you appreciate the amount of blood the anime still shows in comparison to that.

I just want them to show us as much blood and violence as they shown like 5 years ago. I agree with you that being covered with scars from head to toe would be to much but they could show a bit more blood and injuries like they did in the past so that we can actualy know that the character is in pain.
Blood can also make the characters look more badass in my opinion, for ex. when zoro took all the pain from luffy if there was no blood we would be like «oh that wasnt a big deal».
I agree with what you've said about the Toriko anime but dont compare Toriko with One Piece, Toriko's censorship is just ridiculous...

[CaptainKid]

I'm getting confused I know the anime tones down stuff but I thought the blatant censoring was done by 4kids. I know Whitebeard's face and Roshio getting stabbed were changed. Why edit blood when Ace getting blasted through the stomach was kept in? Bellamy getting his face punched in was kept. Zoro cutting through his ankles and having the blood pool was kept. So is MOST (not all) of this censorship 4kids censoring which wasn't censoring in the manga?


I think censoring shouldn't be done but there is a good level of lots of violence like Samurai X level violence where the blood and pain is there. Then the insane violence of Deadman Wonderland eyeball removal and guts everywhere, but still if it's gonna be animated don't censor.

[demonkicksanji]

I'm getting confused I know the anime tones down stuff but I thought the blatant censoring was done by 4kids. I know Whitebeard's face and Roshio getting stabbed were changed. Why edit blood when Ace getting blasted through the stomach was kept in? Bellamy getting his face punched in was kept. Zoro cutting through his ankles and having the blood pool was kept. So is MOST (not all) of this censorship 4kids censoring which wasn't censoring in the manga?


I think censoring shouldn't be done but there is a good level of lots of violence like Samurai X level violence where the blood and pain is there. Then the insane violence of Deadman Wonderland eyeball removal and guts everywhere, but still if it's gonna be animated don't censor.

There has been all sorts of "censorship" and "liberties" taken with the OP anime since the beginning, from never showing the origin of Luffy's scar under his eye to the removal of "flipping people off" and "Halfbeard". But that's just how Toei is...their censorship seems to be going on a roller-coaster route (up and down and up and down). We get a hole through Ace but no "Halfbeard", we get blood but no flipping off.

Comparing those anime are completely different as they weren't done by Toei and probably didn't even air on the same network and time slot (and some networks can be very picky about what is shown...I think...correct me if I'm wrong). But for the record, Deadman Wonderland did have censorship...just TV airing edits, like purposely darkening a scene or using other clever visual tricks to cover things we shouldn't see...until the DVD/BD are released.

While I'm not necessarily complaining about lack of blood and be Fairy Tail-ed on some episodes, I just don't like it when they break continuity of such things like blood (I'm just a little nitpicky). The previous episode had Neptune getting a Water Shot to the stomach and there was a blood splotch on him...the next episode, he and his sons get pummeled, and the blood on Neptune's stomach is gone. They should stick to something if they're going with it, not choose to abandon it for certain scenes or episodes. They could've at least shown a bit of blood interlaced with the Water Shot pummeling, but I digress.

[goty]

I just don't like it when they break continuity of such things like blood (I'm just a little nitpicky). The previous episode had Neptune getting a Water Shot to the stomach and there was a blood splotch on him...the next episode, he and his sons get pummeled, and the blood on Neptune's stomach is gone. They should stick to something if they're going with it, not choose to abandon it for certain scenes or episodes. They could've at least shown a bit of blood interlaced with the Water Shot pummeling, but I digress.

As i said, that's due to different animation supervisors. Some like blood more than others - and key animators like Naotoshi Shida rarely bother doing blood. It may be really distracting for people who pay close attention, but this kind of "inconsistency" happens to pretty much every anime..
Like every other arc, Fishmen Island had plenty of bloody episodes (the one with Otohime's death, for example) but people like to single out an eventually cleaner episode to complain and overreact about it, i see it happening since Thriller Bark.

[Crossword]

And also these episodes are being produced simultaneously by around ten different teams, all at a no doubt frantic pace. These guys unfortunately don't have the time to scrutinize every last animation cel just to see that blood trail #7634 is in the exact same location and shape across like five episodes.

[demonkicksanji]

As i said, that's due to different animation supervisors. Some like blood more than others - and key animators like Naotoshi Shida rarely bother doing blood. It may be distracting for people who pay close attention, but this kind of "inconsistence" happens to pretty much every anime..
Like every other arc, Fishmen Island had plenty of bloody episodes (the one with Otohime's death, for example) but people like to single out an episode with less blood to complain and overreact.

Yes, I realize that, it's just a shame (to me) that stuff like that happens. It can be just a bit jarring. It sometimes seems like some supervisors are just needlessly holding back when it's not needed. I'm just glad that stuff like that doesn't ruin the show for me...'cause I'm sure there might be some people out there who would quit the anime over stuff like this. XD

[StarlightMan]

Neither did Oda.

Oh shut up. Yes he did. Exasperated at the unfounded FI hate around here.

[Velguador]

Oh shut up. Yes he did. Exasperated at the unfounded FI hate around here.

I was talking about this forum's general opinion (which I agree is absolutely retarded, on more points than just Fishman Island). The guy I quoted said Toei did not deliver on one of the most over-hyped arcs in the series, while I meant they are only adapting Oda's original material. If anybody did not deliver on this arc, it is Oda, and Toei is now stuck using that material. Though I admit the pacing has become rather slow the last few weeks.

[LegendarySogeKing]

They have been cutting down on the blood so much lately and its really starting to bother me. Is there a reason for this? It's really taking the spirit of the fights away. If they keep cutting out blood how are they going to

Spoiler:

do Brook's new technique that he defeats zeo with?

[Supernova]

There's also a fight in particular coming up that doesn't need the censorship.

[XerXes Kaiser]

They have been cutting down on the blood so much lately and its really starting to bother me. Is there a reason for this? It's really taking the spirit of the fights away. If they keep cutting out blood how are they going to

Spoiler:

do Brook's new technique that he defeats zeo with?

You should have seen the hackjob the Japanese did on Blood-C. Whenever someone was going to lose an arm or leg entire cels would be whited out.