AP Retro Game Party - June 2012: Final Fantasy VII

[tatermoog]

Hey, thats what happened to me last time I tried to play Ocarina of Time!

We might not be the best market for this thread.

"So, what'd you guys think of Earthbound?" "Got lost on way out of Onett and gave up."
"Majora?" "Lost. Quit."
"Dark Souls?" "Gave up on title screen."

[RobbyBevard]

To be fair, I get around in most RPGs just fine. I just have a really lousy sense of direction... especially when you provide an entire open world right off the bat.

[Hiroy]

How many of us would make it through Dark Souls I wonder. I doubt that many.
Gamers tend to overestimate that game's design and difficulty(I actually find it pretty easy so far... but then again I'm at Anor Londo)
For that, I'd probably never nominate it. Mainly due to my lack of confidence in gamers.

But, as far as Zelda is concerned. I don't think it's possible to get lost if you log your adventure in this topic. Especially OoT and LotP. The games are really short.

[loneassassin]

I would like to rescind my pick of Mother 3 and Would like to add a game where you are god (literally). I nominate Actraiser.

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How many of us would make it through Dark Souls I wonder. I doubt that many.
Gamers tend to overestimate that game's design and difficulty(I actually find it pretty easy so far... but then again I'm at Anor Londo)
For that, I'd probably never nominate it. Mainly due to my lack of confidence in gamers.

But, as far as Zelda is concerned. I don't think it's possible to get lost if you log your adventure in this topic. Especially OoT and LotP. The games are really short.

The only temple that that made me feel like stopping the game was the fucking Water Temple.

[Cyber-Robin]

When I played through on the 3DS the Water Temple wasn't nearly as difficult as I initially thought it was all those years ago (one time I even had to restart the entire game because I thought I'd missed a key.)

[Hiroy]

edit: Wait, I don't want to derail the topic and talk about a game we have not started yet. So I'll stop talking about Zelda in the meanwhile/

[tatermoog]

How many of us would make it through Dark Souls I wonder. I doubt that many.
Gamers tend to overestimate that game's design and difficulty(I actually find it pretty easy so far... but then again I'm at Anor Londo)
For that, I'd probably never nominate it. Mainly due to my lack of confidence in gamers.

I think Dark Souls would be an excellent choice--just imagine the conversations in here! But I also don't know that that many people would have a copy of the game.

Already finished it once. Part of Anor Londo kicked my arse for a long time.

[Kitsune Inferno]

Game Nominees for July:
-Paper Mario (N64)
-Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past (SNES)
-Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
-Earthbound (SNES)
-Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (SNES)
-Kirby Super Star (SNES)
-Kirby's Dream Land 3 (SNES)
-ActRaiser (SNES)

All this Dark Souls talk is lovely, and while I'd love to be forced to play it (never got far :(), it really falls outside the jurisdiction of this topic. But hey, no one's stopping y'all from revitalizing its own thread in the same manner. I'd even be on board with that. ^-^

Anyway, I'm up to Costa finally in FF7. Let me share a few notes of interest:

> Trying to hunker down all this materia on three characters is a hassle. :\ Especially with Double Growth weaponry making its appearance.
> I hate the Junon sequence passionately. Certainly my least favorite chunk of the game so far.
> On the other hand, the ship to Costa has always been in my eyes the moment when the "fun" starts, as here up to the Temple of the Ancients is one string of fantastic sequences after another.
> J-E-N-O-V-A, the boss track, hasn't sounded this good in ages. I've been listening to remixes for a while, and finally hearing the original again after so long is quite awesome. One of the highlights of the game's soundtrack, definitely.

[The Daz]

As far as music goes, Aeris theme just goes in and clutches at my soul. Dammit, this project is a great idea, I just wish it had gotten started at a point where I weren't insanely busy, and could actually take part. Like when I retire or something. It's only one of my favourite games...sigh I love those deformed lego men so damn much. Exploring the pre-rendered environments with them had so much charm you could taste it, and certainly more than anything post the PS1 era.
But I'm rambling. People really found emerald easier than Ruby? wow, for me it was the toal reverse. I still haven't gotten around to cleaning up underwater, even with numerous friends telling me how to decipher Aire Tam Storm.

Trust me, you're not missing anything.

Oh but Its not a question of if, it's a question of when. I'm a filthy completionist, and after dreamland 1 and 2, knightmare in dreamland, Canvas Curse and Superstar Ultra, I don't think I can not play the game.

[RobbyBevard]

People really found emerald easier than Ruby? wow, for me it was the toal reverse. I still haven't gotten around to cleaning up underwater, even with numerous friends telling me how to decipher Aire Tam Storm.

Emerald's hits harder than Ruby, but its main trick is that you have a 20 minute time limit on him, and the one attack that does damage based on the number of materia you have equipped. As long as you have less than 9 materia, its not a huge deal.

Other than that, he has an incredibly repetitive and predictable pattern, incredibly weak defenses and you can do his million HP in just a couple minutes with a leveled team, especially if you're using multi hits and counters. The time limit is a non issue, because if you aren't beating him in about 10 minutes, you're doing it wrong anyway.

Ruby has WAY higher defenses, (Its basically invincible unless its tentacle is out) has status effects, and randomly kicks party members out and thus gets rid of your heavy hitter or your healer.

[tatermoog]

I always wondered how people killed the Weapons without walkthroughs.

Or how they figured out how to raise a Golden Chocobo.

[RobbyBevard]

I always wondered how people killed the Weapons without walkthroughs.

Or how they figured out how to raise a Golden Chocobo.

I read the walkthroughs. Then ignored them. Knights of the Round is the lame way of fighting the weapons. And that damn cinema takes forever.

Gold Chocobo would be near impossible to figure out without a guide though I think.

[captain usopp]

ah, i was gonna nominate something, then realized i'm gonna be really busy in july. pick something I dun care about guys, mkay.

omg, i think i remember playing FF7 back in the day and wondering where the hell is yuffie. Did I somehow lose her in the game? why can't I get her back? They managed to have gau come back on a regular basis in 6. They coulda you know, done the same thing in 7.

[Kitsune Inferno]

The only time you 'lose" Yuffie is during the Materia sidequest... and you can't leave the continent without her.

[Kitsune Inferno]

Alright, the poll is up, everyone. Vote for as many as you'd like I guess. The poll will close on June 28th, which should give everyone enough time to prepare for the event.

[The Fed]

Gold Chocobo would be near impossible to figure out without a guide though I think.

Not that I'm bragging (I mean, it's not like there's anything to be proud of in accomplishing something in a video game), but I got a gold chocobo without any guide or anything when I was 13. Had no internet or anything back then.
When I replayed the game years later though, I had nowhere near enough patience to do it again, so I took the easy route...

God, how many times did I re-do the chocobo race in Gold Saucer for that? I was quite dedicated (understand obsessive-compulsive) back then.

[The Beast]

Between the big contenders, Earthbound and SMRPG, I think I'm voting Earthbound.

[RPGJay]

I'm cool with everything up there but I'll be happy if Earthbound, Paper Mario, or Super Mario RPG win. Especially Earthbound. I am an endless resevoir of pretty much useless knowledge of the Mother series~

[Sheep]

I'm not going to participate in this, but I can only encourage everyone in this Thread go with Earthbound. Nintendos most underdeveloped franchise, yet so trippy, crazy and unique it really deserves more acknowledgement. I finished the game two months ago, and you really have no idea what this game is like until you played it yourself. The gameplay isn't amazing or anything, but just the whole representation of this really bizarre world with it's odd creatures really make it stand out amongst Nintendo titles. I used to think Mario already has an odd premise, with the italian Plumber fighting turtles in a land of mushrooms, but that doesn't come close to the crazy shit you see in Earthbound.

[Hiroy]

Voted Earthbound. Not because I nominated it, because I think it's a unique title. I'm only a few hours into it, but I'm looking forward to playing and discussing the adventure here. From the intro screens alone, I get the impression that the game is going to take me places.