Music Subforum

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Nessa da Best-a

[The Beast]

Looks pretty well thought out so I see no problem with giving this a chance. If anything a music subforum would end up pretty active by the sheer quantity of it; as much as Western Animation at least.

I'll get started in a bit, and will begin looking through for any topics that would merit being moved into that section.

Also Holy, if there's anything specific you'd want added on while I'm working on this just message me k.

Like I said personally, it's very nice of you and I thank you quite a lot!

If the music forum fails, I will let you personally be the one to execute me

But I'm pretty confident we can make this work.

So come on guys we've got a forum to populate soon

[Kitsune Inferno]

Pioneering adventures!

[Wooden_Giraffe]

You should make a song cover thread. i want to hear all of your beautiful voices.

[GypsyCarts]

This idea is too good.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

A sub-forum for music.
Aren`t there better suited forums out there to talk about music?
I see that you may want to share this and that about your favourite band or whatever, but that sub-forum will just be a collecting place for 1-5 used threads.

I guess a manga/anime forum has to keep up with the latest trends and has to develop more and more non manga/anime related sub forums.
But why not having a movie/series and politics sub-forum in the media section while we`re at it?
Those are at least equally discussed here and so should be considered for that too.

[Uncle Kenny]

A sub-forum for music.
Aren`t there better suited forums out there to talk about music?
I see that you may want to share this and that about your favourite band or whatever, but that sub-forum will just be a collecting place for 1-5 used threads.

I guess a manga/anime forum has to keep up with the latest trends and has to develop more and more non manga/anime related sub forums.
But why not having a movie/series and politics sub-forum in the media section while we`re at it?
Those are at least equally discussed here and so should be considered for that too.

The music sub-forum already exists and has more than your mentioned five threads; it's even currently stirring up quite a bit of activity.

Media, on a whole, already covers t.v. and such. So much so that it overwhelms any discussion pertaining to music. Not to mention that in most minds, "media" is synonymous with "television" or something trending right now. Music isn't the first thing that pops to mind. And that's the reason the music sub-forum was brought forth as a suggestion, to create that clear distinction between television and music.

I believe that it deserves to exist and that it'll be at least fairly active. There are quite a few people here whom have very strong attachments to music whether as a form of identity or as a genuine passion. And for those more casual users they finally have a place to create more casual threads without the fear of it being merged or locked immediately. All in all, I see no reason to think it won't do well.

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And as for Holy, Wagomu and Zephos... Might I say that I admire and respect your passion and congratulate you all on the new sub-forum. Not to be riding dicks or anything but, I know you guys are the ones to keep this thing alive.~

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

Well in the beginning each new sub-foum is used, but most threads by now are just the collected pile of threads of the past..in a few weeks we know more how it developed.

So much so that it overwhelms any discussion pertaining to music.

How can it overwhelm a discussion about music in their seperated threads?
Lol, i hope you don`t want to tell me that it`s such an hard task to may look on the second page for the thread you wanna reply in.

Music isn't the first thing that pops to mind. And that's the reason the music sub-forum was brought forth as a suggestion, to create that clear distinction between television and music.

That`s why i suggested a movie/series and politics subforum for a clear distinction.
I mean in the past 7 years we had hundreds of posts about music, movies and politics all scattered over the place, because like you said for most people it was not clear enough what belongs to media^^

There are quite a few people here whom have very strong attachments to music whether as a form of identity or as a genuine passion.

You don`t try to tell me that music might be the singular most popular hobby for each and every person in one way or another, or do you?
Of course everyone has something to say about it, but on a manga/anime board i guess you don`t have to provide for every popular hobby a sub-forum..so why having one for music and not for movie/series or politics?
That`s all iam asking...of course people will use the sub-forum, but so they used regular threads without a problem.
I personally just don`t see the point.
When it`s an manga/anime board it would be more logical to have a Naruto,Bleach etc subforum instead of music,video games etc sub-forums which could be discussed like everywhere else...that`s not a reason why i have to join here.
And sure i may want to talk to the people here about music and other stuff but that`s why we have a general section which doesn`t need much destinction...
But when people see it as handy to have sub-forums, so why not having even more of them like i suggested.

[Uncle Kenny]

I think it's because you either don't understand this community (Arlong Park) or you're just blatantly ignoring it.

How can it overwhelm a discussion about music in their seperated threads?
Lol, i hope you don`t want to tell me that it`s such an hard task to may look on the second page for the thread you wanna reply in.

This has already been gone over before earlier in this thread but there's several reasons why it can overwhelm music topics. One of them being the reason I provided you before; the term "media" being synonymous with movies and television. Music topics in that particular forum don't have much staying power even if the topic material may interest several individuals. The reason simply being that new movies and television shows come out all the time, "media" is a pretty relegated term and the music threads that existed up until today were either too specific or too limited to discuss in a pool of popular, differing threads.

It's the concern that someone (I'm sorry, I forgot who it was) expressed before that even though they personally are passionate about music, it's stuck in a place with tons of other interesting threads and not being allowed to collect attention.

That`s why i suggested a movie/series and politics subforum for a clear distinction.
I mean in the past 7 years we had hundreds of posts about music, movies and politics all scattered over the place, because like you said for most people it was not clear enough what belongs to media^^

I think the distinction here is that "media" is a clear enough term to insinuate discussion on movies, television and politics (due to the absence of said sub-forums and deductive reasoning) but not so distinct as to insinuate music, even though music falls under the media category. Like I said before, a lot of people here (on Arlong Park~) identify themselves strongly with music or are passionate about it and are seeking careers in music. Now, more than likely, there are some among us seeking careers in those other categories, but none so greatly as music on this particular site.

And since music is such a fervent self-identity for the users, music threads can end up in General discussion just as it could in Media.

You don`t try to tell me that music might be the singular most popular hobby for each and every person in one way or another, or do you?
Of course everyone has something to say about it, but on a manga/anime board i guess you don`t have to provide for every popular hobby a sub-forum..so why having one for music and not for movie/series or politics?

Oh, and I forgot to mention this but...

And I hate to say this because I'm a dumbass about it myself but... Do you really, honestly believe that our members here are capable of sustaining a mature and intelligent conversation on politics without it degrading into dumb jokes or overtly offensive responses? Now I'm a dumbass on this too, I'll definitely say something stupid in a debate and get overly offended for no reason and I also know that some people are capable of carrying on mature conversation but...

I just plain don't think that, with as diverse as our community is in terms of personalities and with as sincere and important certain beliefs are to people, that those conversations can be carried out without anyone being offended or without extreme moderation. And I know the discussions exist anyway and they're certainly not taboo but I often times see these topics get the most amount of mod intervention.

Creating a sub-forum for politics would just open the floodgates to spawn off several topics that will be ridiculed (along with their OP's).

That`s all iam asking...of course people will use the sub-forum, but so they used regular threads without a problem.
I personally just don`t see the point.
When it`s an manga/anime board it would be more logical to have a Naruto,Bleach etc subforum instead of music,video games etc sub-forums which could be discussed like everywhere else...that`s not a reason why i have to join here.

Of course it's not the reason you joined here but even if you would think that Naruto or Bleach would be more popular areas of discussion... they get trashed around here really often. On the other hand, music is a booming subject for several. So why would a community need to conform to a pre-established notion that all they're capable of discussing needs to have some basis in the board's original subject?

I haven't posted in any One Piece threads in years now. I believe communities should grow and adapt to the needs of the userbase rather than to the ideas of conformity.

And sure i may want to talk to the people here about music and other stuff but that`s why we have a general section which doesn`t need much destinction...
But when people see it as handy to have sub-forums, so why not having even more of them like i suggested.

But now you can discuss it to a specific level without fear of being ignored (since everyone that enters is aware that the main topic is music), it dying quickly or it being merged with a general thread.

And if a sub-forum has merit in the community, then it has potential to exist. I don't see why you think there's a restriction in place, sans all my counterpoints. If you want them to exist, make your case.~

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

Well, when you say the dumbass comunity here couldn`t handle a politics subforum neither start to discuss music properly without a subforum provided for it, iam actually not able to make a case against it :)

Also like you said most people aren`t here for the original main subject, so to keep them here, it obviously has to be given more room for side discussions.

[Uncle Kenny]

I didn't necessarily mean it like that, I meant more that dumb comments would be made, not that the users themselves are dumb. My concern is more on the "mean" aspect rather than the intelligent one. =P

Anyways, it's already done, so...

[brennen.exe]

Looks like Nessa's got this already. My opinion is the same as last time, so if you all [the regs] think you'll be active enough, and/or those who really do appreciate music-- zephos, wagomu, holy, etc-- keep the quality up, then go for it. Just keep in mind that a sub-forum doesn't need pages and pages of threads; keep them relevant and purposeful, please.

[BartArt]

Sweet! I vow to be active and useful in this subforum if it happens.

EDIT: Oh ma gawd, it has already happened. Well I'm off to the new world~

[HAM-STAR]

Personally I think we should either just have a music thread, or a general "media" thread about music or tv shows or video games or stuff like that.
BUT I'M A NEWCOMER WHO CARES ABOUT ME??

[gemadog7]

Personally I think we should either just have a music thread, or a general "media" thread about music or tv shows or video games or stuff like that.
BUT I'M A NEWCOMER WHO CARES ABOUT ME??

There's already a sub forum with music, tv shows and video games.

[HAM-STAR]

Yes, but... I...!
I suck.