Chapter 679: "Determination G-5"

[RomanceDawn]

Yeah that Dragon attack Zoro used did result in flames though a this point it's not clear if it was just some kind of friction or if Zoro was actively using fire.

It would be interesting if Zoro tapped into something he did not realize at the time. It would make great call back to Ryuma if what Kinemon does is a more fleshed out version of what Zoro did so long ago to a Samurai of the same culture.

[Neomaster121]

Yeah that Dragon attack Zoro used did result in flames though a this point it's not clear if it was just some kind of friction or if Zoro was actively using fire.

It would be interesting if Zoro tapped into something he did not realize at the time. It would make great call back to Ryuma if what Kinemon does is a more fleshed out version of what Zoro did so long ago to a Samurai of the same culture.

yea would make my salt theory ridiculously redundant haha

views on the chapter
its moving along well
just not so sure how match ups will work

is this gonna be an arc where Zoro and sanji don't have opponents?

Because the way this is looking

Luffy vs CC
Smoker and Law vs vergo

[choperman]

yea would make my salt theory ridiculously redundant haha views on the chapter its moving along well just not so sure how match ups will work is this gonna be an arc where Zoro and sanji don't have opponents? Because the way this is looking Luffy vs CC Smoker and Law vs vergo

remember the frozen people, there's a chance all the SH's will have to fight all those prisoners that were experimented on

[RadicalPanda]

Do we know in what room the frozen people are? I feel like they dropped a bunch of names back in the middle of the arc… Biscuit's room, the place where the Strawhats were locked up etc

[choperman]

Do we know in what room the frozen people are? I feel like they dropped a bunch of names back in the middle of the arc… Biscuit's room, the place where the Strawhats were locked up etc

no idea to be honest, they ended up by the front entrance though didn't they??? or did they head back? now I'm really confused

[Pharier]

Man, those G5 guys are truly a bunch of lovable folks. Sacrificing their own lives to save their captain... I salute you.

Yeah I agree they are quickly becoming some of my favourite fooder characters. Such brave and lovable idiots.

[cloudrivera]

yea would make my salt theory ridiculously redundant haha

views on the chapter
its moving along well
just not so sure how match ups will work

is this gonna be an arc where Zoro and sanji don't have opponents?

Because the way this is looking

Luffy vs CC
Smoker and Law vs vergo

I wouldn't mind if it was eventually Everyone VS Vergo

[Drazgoon]

I think vergo could be a good example of different power levels between the VA rank, while luffy should be able to fight them pretty easily now (not necessarily win easily) i doubt even the monster trio would be able to face Garp. So somebody who would be like a top lieutenant or equivalent on Doflamingo's crew would be able to fight with 2 mid/top tier fighters at once, it would be a great time to show they still need to grow.

Overall, the chapter was... a one piece chapter. We're probably reaching the apex of the arc shortly, which is why it seemed "slow" though the pacing wasn't really different then when they had to run after the sea-train or going back to where Hody was. So good? meh. Bad? naw.

And also- Luffy will 1hit KO caesar next time they'll meet. Caesar will be all "Shurororo, i'll suffocate him again" only to be elephant gunned. Taking shit seriously 101

[blue-san]

no no, let Smoker deal with Vergo whatever

Luffy needs to make it right with Ceasar

[Autumncomet]

I'd prefer for Smoker to beat Vergo to get his redemption after Law took him down. The Straw Hats don't have to get fights, and Smoker and Tashigi have been in the story from nearly the beginning.

[Drake_Cloud]

Anyone else thinking the R-66 doorway leads to Law's submarine? Cause it seems like a very easy way off the island without having to go through the poison gas.

[onemoment]

I think I'm getting impatient with Smoker and Tashigi's story arc. I've been wondering what they're doing in this story since Lougetown, and this arc is just drawing it out--not that there's a lot of good stuff in front of us now. This conflict with Ceasar is interesting, but I can't help but notice Tashgi is taking defeat as a swordsman, woman, and captain at the same time. Really, she's the most interesting marine here and Smoker is just her muscle for getting through the Grandline (Smoker as a clear motive and no real character conflict). I wonder where her story is going. I'm really hoping she doesn't have to compromise too much, cause he becoming too strong doesn't seem possible unless she runs across another sensei on par with Mihawk. After so many years, this story arc is a mystery and I want it solved.

[DarthAsthma]

Yeah that Dragon attack Zoro used did result in flames though a this point it's not clear if it was just some kind of friction or if Zoro was actively using fire.

It would be interesting if Zoro tapped into something he did not realize at the time. It would make great call back to Ryuma if what Kinemon does is a more fleshed out version of what Zoro did so long ago to a Samurai of the same culture.

I always had the impression that this was like his asura going by the current explanation/observation made by kaku(hopefully not the final one) of him being able to materialise illusions with his spirit.

I kind of want tashigi and zoro have their fight. I have the impression that everyone thinks that zoro is leagues over her (and this is certainly true if it comes to sheer strength) but the few panel with tashigi displaying her swordsmanship kind of hint that her swordtechnique concentrates on being able to handle strength based swordtechniques thus voiding the huge advantage.

Sure Zoro would most definitely still win but I think she could give a good fight in the sense that he has to find a way to overcome her technique not necessarily one of zoros butcher fights where he stands on the brink of death because of wounds and pulls through.

[Autumncomet]

You mean in the sense that Tashigi has more 'skill' and finesse whereas Zoro is all about raw power (and Brook is about speed)? Yeah, I can see that and while women in shonen tend to get shafted, Oda seems to have realized Tashigi's potential, so who knows!

I figured Smoker was there to be Luffy's Garp, but that leaves Coby in an odd place. He might have something to do with X Drake if they ever meet up with him. Remember at the very end of Alabasta?

Tashigi: Even though I knew when the bombing would start, I could do nothing but back THEM up. I had no justice to choose.
Smoker: ...Others that until recently I considered equals have gained infamy and have run wild. They know that in THIS SEA, if you don't run wild, you're as good as dead. Go forth, or die? Who was it that decided to come here?
Tashigi: I'm sorry, I... need to rest.
Smoker: You fool...
Smoker: IF IT HURTS SO MUCH YOU WANT TO CRY...THEN GET STRONGER!!!!
Tashigi: sob...
Marine: Sergeant...
Tashigi: I WILL!!!!
Smoker: ...I suppose you want guts like that, too...C'mon, bring your catch on board.

OR they're just there to provide a constant reminder that not all Marines are assholes. That's a good thing, and I suspect they'll be extremely important in the endgame when we (finally) get the big reveals about the World Government and the shady stuff the Marines have been doing.

[400MillionBelis]

I can definitely see it now: Caesar and Vergo will be defeated and captured, and will not appear anymore as key players in this saga. We will probably NOT see a Monet fight, but rather she would appear more in the future.

[CaptainKid]

I can't see Vergo being beaten this arc or if he is beaten the arc will last longer than it seems like it's going to. I'm still confused on how Law's ability failed to work on Smoker directly but when he went internal and switch his heart with a block of ice Smoker's haki couldn't stop it. Also apart from being able to control people how does removing one's heart hurt your enemy?

[RomanceDawn]

I'm still trying to figure out why Caesar has to be captured. Nami asked about a ransom or something earlier right? To who and why would they care about saving Caesar and/or what does he have to do with ultimately defeating an Emperor? Not that anyone can truly answer these questions but who's got some ideas?

[Sagippio]

I'm still trying to figure out why Caesar has to be captured. Nami asked about a ransom or something earlier right? To who and why would they care about saving Caesar and/or what does he have to do with ultimately defeating an Emperor? Not that anyone can truly answer these questions but who's got some ideas?

I think by capture they mean as opposed to just beat the heck out of him. He might have certain knowledge which can be squeezed out of him in exchange of his release. And this knowledge is the key of defeating a yonkou. I'm guessing it's the knowledge of DF extraction (and capturing the power).

[MiyamotoMusashi]

I can't see Vergo being beaten this arc or if he is beaten the arc will last longer than it seems like it's going to. I'm still confused on how Law's ability failed to work on Smoker directly but when he went internal and switch his heart with a block of ice Smoker's haki couldn't stop it. Also apart from being able to control people how does removing one's heart hurt your enemy?

My prediction is that Vergo will lose to Smoker and be unconcious and entrapped by the gas but Monet is going to save him and they´ll both fly away to Flamingo´s hideout, meaning we will see both of them in his arc. Smoker just has to redeem himself at this point and his motivation to fight Vergo couldnt be any bigger.

[Lorenzo D. Teach]

Anyone else thinking the R-66 doorway leads to Law's submarine? Cause it seems like a very easy way off the island without having to go through the poison gas.

very nice theory, could be...