Who is the final villain in One Piece? 2.0

[Ghidorah Guy]

The corrupted, lingering spirit of One Piece Jesus that's riding around in his ancestor, Blackbeard.

Luffy = heroic Anti-Christ

Blackbeard = villainous Messiah

The "Jesus" of One Piece possibly being Joyboy.

[Roronoa Zacho]

You know, being a D. and being interested in history, I hope BB will someday tell us the story of the void century (as a jawdroppin flashback, of course).
As things are now at Wano, you can expect the final war to be an even bigger clusterf*ck.

[Erkan12]

As far as the ''Pirate King'' goal is concerned, my guess is Blackbeard.

But it's also possible that Luffy will continue to fight after finding One Piece, in that case their opponent will be the World Government forces no doubt, but then again, even if Luffy decides to take down the World Government, he would have tons of alies, and the main forces will be the Revolutionary army and Dragon. It's hard to figure out who will be Luffy's opponent from the World Government, because I don't think any of the Admirals can actually match with a Pirate King level opponent. 2 Admirals at the same maybe, or even 3 Admirals at the same time (if we follow E.Oda's depiction and Aokiji's words from the War of the Best).

[wolfwood]

Seeing the old admirals together after Rocks all i can think about is wonder who those guys are related to. What convenient coinkydink connects those guys, was Akainu the childhood bully of Aokiji, did Purple guy and him go to the same kindergarten, did the yellow monkey sign up because his uncle Sengoku vouched for him. Can't wait for Oda to take hammer to those guyses past and make it a neat everyone knew everyone before

[Jeff Nero Hardy]

The actually stand say me, we have four names.

1, Blackbeard - he is the antagonist
2. Imu - he is the Leader of the government
3. Sakazuki - he killed Ace
4. Rocks - when he is still alive than maybe he

[Johnny B. Decent]

Personally, after we learned Rocks was:
A. An evil D.
B. Was Roger's hated rival
C. Wanted to become King of the World by killing the Celestial Dragons
D. Ruled Pirate Island and died around the same time Teach was born
E. Teach named his flagship after him
F. Even has the same damn maniacal evil grin

I don't think Oda could make it any less obvious Teach is the true final villain, unless he shouted from the rooftops "BLACKBEARD IS THE BIG BAD, Y'ALL!".

[Kdom]

So how does the Blackbeard as final villain goes after this flashback revelations ?
Because now it seems 100% sure that the reaching of Raftel/Laugh tale is not the end of the serie and that fulfilling Joy Boy promise will be what Luffy needs to do. Will there be a fight for the antic weapons ?

[MiyamotoMusashi]

So how does the Blackbeard as final villain goes after this flashback revelations ?
Because now it seems 100% sure that the reaching of Raftel/Laugh tale is not the end of the serie and that fulfilling Joy Boy promise will be what Luffy needs to do. Will there be a fight for the antic weapons ?

Thematically and narrative-wise, it always made sense that the World Government would be the one to fall the last, they oppose everything Luffy stands for, and have been the only consistent factor in each arc of One Piece, even in the small ones like Kuro.
Blackbeard can still be the third party though, depending on how Oda plays out the Pirate King thing.
A confrontation between Luffy and BB before the former becomes PK is a must though, the struggle for supremacy was mentioned so often, how can Luffy not face his actual rival for the title.
Whether BB remains relevant after that though remains to be seen.

Btw, it did not confirm anything new. Most understood what WB said right before dying, OP gets found -> world engulfing war starts because of it.
Some people called it a too literal comprehension, they were wrong.

[uniaka ikuzakas]

If I can see BB as final villain, I can't see his crew. Their first pirate journey ended up in prison, they got taken out of the game and got behind bars. They already got defeated, no hype about them
If only BB would take more admirals under him, Like aokiji, that would be Something

[LightningAce]

The World government is the final villain.

BB will be Luffy's enemy to claim One Piece

[auem]

The battle between BB and Luffy should happen after the battle with WG. It is more evident now because it seems the government itself is a kind of hostage to some 'out of world' entity.I don't think Imu can pose a ideological challenge to Luffy. He/She is way too obscure to flesh out properly in the end game. Either Im will 'merge' with BB or more likely he/she will be taken down jointly by BB and Luffy and then the fated battle happens. Either way BB is still the final villain to me.

[Kdom]

The battle between BB and Luffy should happen after the battle with WG. It is more evident now because it seems the government itself is a kind of hostage to some 'out of world' entity.I don't think Imu can pose a ideological challenge to Luffy. He/She is way too obscure to flesh out properly in the end game. Either Im will 'merge' with BB or more likely he/she will be taken down jointly by BB and Luffy and then the fated battle happens. Either way BB is still the final villain to me.

Im represents the status quo so i would say he is very ideological on the countrary.
Blackbeard allying with the government is a possibility, in exchange they would le him continue doing whatever he wants to do. But so far we know that he is looking for the One Piece so he would have to fight Luffy for that

[HikaruYami]

Regardless of people's opinions of Im, I really think this thread is in need of a 3.0 ever since we found out about a true king of the world government.

This thread still has votes that are over 5 years old. Many people will still vote for Blackbeard, of course, but I think the mysterious presence of Im is at least noteworthy and right now we only have "Other" to vote for. It's a big problem with the poll itself--not with the original creator, of course, but with the current state of the thread.

[EvoWarrior5]

Yea I agree, would be interesting to have a new version of this poll soon.

[Nilitch]

Well, there used to be a time when people around here refused to debate on who's gonna be the last villain, but instead only focus on how Blackbeard was gonna be fought. Like, how it was gonna happen.
Now that Im is a thing, we can again freely talk...


Also, why is Kidd not even in the poll ? He's the most credible candidate among the supernovas. He can't be pushed aside. He's more credible than Kaido and Bigmom who are falling/dying in this arc anyway. I think Kidd will start recruiting strong members in his crew soon. Maybe some of the level 6 prisoners of ID who escaped

[Shiebs]

I’d still put my money on Black Beard

[Vongola_Boss_XI]

Definitely not Blackbeard. It'll be Im.

I remember being mocked in this topic for making the case for the existence of a world king years ago - around the end of Dressrosa. Well, well well, how the turn tables.

[HeartOfDarkness]

Thematically and narrative-wise, it always made sense that the World Government would be the one to fall the last

Yea, no.

Luffy's big ultimate fight isn't going to be against the people that he has been already fighting since the start of the series. The World Goverment is an organization, there isn't anyone in particular that Luffy will beat for the big climactic moment of the series.

Whether BB remains relevant after that though remains to be seen

Pretty sure the only evil D in the current timeline is going to be playing an important role........

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Definitely not Blackbeard. It'll be Im.

I remember being mocked in this topic for making the case for the existence of a world king years ago - around the end of Dressrosa. Well, well well, how the turn tables.

Ah, you must be referring to the mysterious character who, in his first appearance, decided to pick out the main character of the series, an ancient weapon, a member of the family that rules Alabasta and has ties to ancient weapon and world-nobles.............alongside Blackbeard as targets to presumably eliminate ........

But I'm sure Oda isn't really telling to tell us anything important with that moment.

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Well, there used to be a time when people around here refused to debate on who's gonna be the last villain, but instead only focus on how Blackbeard was gonna be fought. Like, how it was gonna happen.
Now that Im is a thing, we can again freely talk...

I mean, it gives people, who deny the possibility that Blackbeard could be the main villain, a bit more reason to deny it by cheaply using Im's existence.

But even that scene, when thought about for 2 seconds, can pretty much give you an idea of Blackbeard's importance.

Amongst all the characters in the series, Im choses:

-Luffy; the main protag of the series, part of the D clan, Dragon's son, etc....

-Vivi; Part of the lineage that rules Alabasta and has ties to weapon of mass destruction as well as connections to void century and world nobles.

-Shirahoshi; ancient weapon who is capable of controlling sea kings

-Blackbeard; the only current evil D in the present timeline so far, is interested in history, the only villain that has risen to power akin to Luffy, the only character to have eaten two fruits, character who is said to be special and the recent connections to Rocks.

I wonder what Oda wanted to convey with Im's introduction with all those particular posters and stuff.

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Im represents the status quo

How does Im represent....anything as far as his own ideals are concerned? He/she has been on maybe three or so panels.

We *literally* have no idea of who Im is, what his/her ideals are or even what the actual role is.

in exchange they would le him continue doing whatever he wants to do

A scene from chapter 577

Can't really see that happening.

[desa]

I always saw the opposite of freedom as stagnation/order. Not chaos.

[Jabra]

People focus on Imu now, but completely ignore the Rocks setup for some reason. He's the guy who wanted to rule the world and almost succeeded if it weren't for the most powerful individuals teaming up against him. Now I don't know if Rocks himself will enter the scene again, but at the very least Blackbeard seems to have inherited his "will" (similiar to Luffy / Roger).

With that said, Blackbeard could absolutely crush the World Government and succeed where Rocks failed, with Luffy being the one to stop him in a final war.

It's definitely an option, the alternative being a three-way encounter. Though that idea seems to be difficult to execute in a satisfying manner...