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    Quote Originally Posted by auem View Post
    Umm, what is 'T'?
    Greg has yet to elaborate on it, if ever (maybe it's too "early" for him to make public such theory?).

    If you ask me, having let my imagination run wild when I read that comment, a T. could either be:
    - a D. who chose to side with the WG, betraying their own kind;
    - a race which evolved in order to mimick a D. (for what reasons, I couldn't tell).


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    Greg's theory of D is that is that at the least, it's related to the straw hat, or they are related to whoever is the progenitor of the straw hat. Or maybe more emphasis is placed on how Luffy and others, as D's, bring folks together. Either way, T, as a symbol, could be seen as more divisive? Not sure, but if we're theorizing on Greg's theories, we should probably become reacquainted with them.

    And by the way, just noticed Greg has a new article out: https://one-piece.com/special/greg/d...0983.html?l=en

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    Greg what do you think , why are celestial dragons buying weapons from orochi?At first It seemed that mingo's fall was real blow for kaido , but here orochi is talking to cp like situation is waaay in his favor. By looks of marine tech (Giant battleships, Huge forts , Pacifistas , Vegapunks invention that soon will change warlord system ) World government shouldn't need any help from kaido .What are your thoughts ...Am I nitpicking too much??

    Will marines really bring vegapunk? If they do guess smoker will be escorting him .(and blueno with whole cp0 in hiding)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanboysins View Post
    Greg what do you think , why are celestial dragons buying weapons from orochi?At first It seemed that mingo's fall was real blow for kaido , but here orochi is talking to cp like situation is waaay in his favor. By looks of marine tech (Giant battleships, Huge forts , Pacifistas , Vegapunks invention that soon will change warlord system ) World government shouldn't need any help from kaido .What are your thoughts ...Am I nitpicking too much??

    Will marines really bring vegapunk? If they do guess smoker will be escorting him .(and blueno with whole cp0 in hiding)
    Where do you think the Marines get their tech from? Seastone comes from Wano, so it seems likely that Doffy was the facilitator of all the Seastone that the Marines got in addition to their weapons. Plus, we knew that Doffy produced SMILEs for Kaido, so maybe weapons and Seastone were what he got in return.



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    Will Oda do a play and have Orochi find out about the rebellion? Then he demands CP0 to send two admirals and 2 to 100 pacifista for his deal.

    Better yet, the goverment accepts Vegapunk as payment.
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    Yeah, seastone is the only thing that makes sense. But it is just a stone, not a weapon unless it is crafted. So if WG is indeed buying 'weapons' from them then it should be those specially crafted sealstone weapons that only the smiths of Wano can make;as Hawkins said.

    Though i think Oda cornered himself by showing sealstone being specific to Wano only. It warrant the question what were WG doing in all these centuries, by not taking the possession of such valuable minerals? Kaidou has been controlling Wano for couple of decades only. Before him was the era of Oden who was clearly defeat-able.And from the recent comments by Shogun it is clear that his main leverage against WG is Kaidou, not any secret army of unimaginable strength. Considering his greed for power, had Orochi been indeed in the control of such, he wouldn't have let Kaidou to call the shot from behind him.
    So unless Wano had some incredible powerful rulers in the past or discovery and application of seastone being a relatively modern thing, it make no sense for WG not to utilise their vast resources to capture and control Wano until now.
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    wow I never even thought of the repercussions that will happen when SH's defeat Kaidou, I mean what will happen to wano

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiebs View Post
    wow I never even thought of the repercussions that will happen when SH's defeat Kaidou, I mean what will happen to wano
    Momo will be new shogun with his retainers protecting him and backing of 'fifth Yonkou' ( though 'yon' stand for four lol) Luffy will make him even stronger.
    And very soon WG is going to be overthrown any way. They will have to hold on for just little longer.
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    The exact quote from hawkings is that the sea prism stone was born in wano, and only wano craftmen can make nails and the such.

    We know from skypea that precisely the same material as seastone is the one responsible for making the white sea or the cloud islands have their particular characteristics.

    Nothing here speaks to me as exclusivity. Like if everyone had oil but only the Saudi had refineries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiebs View Post
    wow I never even thought of the repercussions that will happen when SH's defeat Kaidou, I mean what will happen to wano
    Then Wano will become an open country and will be able to sell seastone and other stuff legally

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxterdexter View Post
    The exact quote from hawkings is that the sea prism stone was born in wano, and only wano craftmen can make nails and the such.

    We know from skypea that precisely the same material as seastone is the one responsible for making the white sea or the cloud islands have their particular characteristics.

    Nothing here speaks to me as exclusivity. Like if everyone had oil but only the Saudi had refineries.
    Yes,but being something that originate from a place and only the craftsman from the same place being the best at forging it put the whole thing pretty exclusive to that place. Going to the point of doing secret business with the pirates make WG looks like quite dependent on the supply from Wano( notwithstanding the amount of seastone scattered throughout the world by now).
    I think WG used to do legal trade with Wano since long before Orochi came to the power, because even a 'closed' nation need outside trade to stock itself with some necessities.But after Kaidou started to pull the strings, they had no other choice but to deal with him. Still it doesn't change the fact that they let such a important land to run independently,considering their greed to maintain the status quo.

    P.S: Japan during Tokugawa period also 'closed' it's border in terms of movement of common people and outside 'influences', but they did trade with China and Dutch and occasionally with other people....
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    Hawkings statement is bullshit because there are islands floating in the sky because volcanos tossed the stuff in the coulds.

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    Unless the kind of seastone that actually weakens devil fruit users is also manufactured and comes from wano, that's it.

    Now that I think about it, the natural substance being bening, and it being used to both produce the sea prism and the phoneglyphs (who robin touch with her bare hands with no ill effect, and as indestructible as the sea prism) makes sense.
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    Skypiea was definitely formed long before void century(we can safely assume) and it won't be surprising if both sea-prism and ponyglyph stone originated in another world and later 'fell' into or 'moved' to Wano in it's present form.So Wano can still be only 'source' of it in the OP world.
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    I presumed that they had better quality and deeper supplies of the stuff, combined with the trades craft in making complicated mechanisms with the material. Like that the WG has the means to make rudimentary things like cages or coating but not to make a moving gear for instance. My personal hope is that the parts they need are neccesary to produce Vegapunks no doubt robotic master weapon.

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    Whats gonna happen with Big mom now that she could possibly make her way to Wano? Always thought she could end in elbaf, but after the snailcall with Kaidou and the possible Rox connection is she going to play a major part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by auem View Post
    Yeah, seastone is the only thing that makes sense. But it is just a stone, not a weapon unless it is crafted. So if WG is indeed buying 'weapons' from them then it should be those specially crafted sealstone weapons that only the smiths of Wano can make;as Hawkins said.

    Though i think Oda cornered himself by showing sealstone being specific to Wano only. It warrant the question what were WG doing in all these centuries, by not taking the possession of such valuable minerals? Kaidou has been controlling Wano for couple of decades only. Before him was the era of Oden who was clearly defeat-able.And from the recent comments by Shogun it is clear that his main leverage against WG is Kaidou, not any secret army of unimaginable strength. Considering his greed for power, had Orochi been indeed in the control of such, he wouldn't have let Kaidou to call the shot from behind him.
    So unless Wano had some incredible powerful rulers in the past or discovery and application of seastone being a relatively modern thing, it make no sense for WG not to utilise their vast resources to capture and control Wano until now.
    Because such materials only became known and useful due to Vegapunk i would imagine. For centuries neither would the world know about seastone, nor would Wa No know about devil fruits and seastone´s worth in against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiyamotoMusashi View Post
    Because such materials only became known and useful due to Vegapunk i would imagine. For centuries neither would the world know about seastone, nor would Wa No know about devil fruits and seastone´s worth in against them.
    That's a possible conjecture(my post includse it though without specifying Vegapunk), albeit a weak one for the story.

    Most of the infamous villains were locked down in Impel Down with the help of sea-stone cuff. We have seen Shiki being tied down with such some 23-24 years ago with respect to present timeline.So if it's military application is mostly due to Vegapunk, i wonder how they used to control DF users before his times.......
    I believe it weaken the whole world build up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auem View Post
    That's a possible conjecture(my post includse it though without specifying Vegapunk), albeit a weak one for the story.

    Most of the infamous villains were locked down in Impel Down with the help of sea-stone cuff. We have seen Shiki being tied down with such some 23-24 years ago with respect to present timeline.So if it's military application is mostly due to Vegapunk, i wonder how they used to control DF users before his times.......
    I believe it weaken the whole world build up.
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    Vegapunk absolutely inovated aspects of Seastone usage, such as it being used to line Navy vessels to disguise them from Seakings in the Calm Belts. But I'm sure the World Government and other groups' usage of it outside of Wano has existed for quite a while. While Wano might be the best at crafting Seastone, I'd say it's unlikely that Seastone was ONLY crafted from Wano for the most part, or majorly after Vegapunk.

    The first instance of Wano's specific Seastone refinment was in something small like a nail. We haven't seen widespread usage of small Seastone objects like that outside of Zepher's Seastone bullet(which the film is non canon anyway) and the nets used in Impel Down. And given that those were ripped open, it's implied that it only had segments of it containing Seastone.

    So things like cuffs, jail cells, I'd imagine are relatively simple for the Navy to construct. Even if the material isn't highly abundant. I am slightly inclined to believe that the smaller pieces of Seastone, used in the nets in Impel Down and by the Navy, might be a result of Doflamingo's deals with Kaido. Simply because if we're supposed to believe that only the craftsmen of Wano can refine this harder-than-diamond substance into things like nails, it diminishes that claim if the Navy is also able to make nets with small segmented pieces of Seastone.

    So to sum up, I'm sure for decades the Navy has been able to make things like Seastone jail cells and handcuffs. But it's probably only in the last decade or so -thanks to Doffy- that they've been making things like those nets that would require finer craftsmanship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    This is how we get taken by complete surprise from stuff in front of our face for a decade like Garp.

    My point is, Oda is always trying to bait and switch or misdirect the readers.

    We've been shown very clearly that Diable is a mixture of friction and Sanji's burning heart which are points that have been addressed both visually and jokingly.

    So...don't you find it a bit odd that he's *never once* addressed Red Hawk?

    I don't expect to win over anybody with this theory at this junction but it'd be great if you remember it down the line.
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