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    Even in Bleach you had

    - Ichigo
    - Ichigo but with black hair and tattoos
    - Ichigo but this one is actually his uncle who Rukia looks up to

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    I just started to reread Bleach 3 days ago because i met somebody who is a Bleach die hard fan and he hated Bleach live action trailer. One of his reason was, characters in that trailer doesn't really resemble the manga/anime. For example, Ichigo's zanpakuto look different than the one from manga/anime. I disagree because iirc, Ichigo's zanpakuto look the same. at the beginning he did use oversize katana but because I am not really sure, I let it go and change the topic.

    ALl those discussions regarding live action and Kubo new oneshot, make me feel to reread Bleach and so I did.
    Before rereading, for years, in my mind, Karakura arc (before SS) is the best arc, lot of good stories and personalities, good art and camera angle. SS arc is second best arc with less quality of story compare to previous arc but more hype due to tons of nice and fun characters and power design. Its like the Dragonball Z to Dragonball even though in the manga there's only Dragonball.

    And Arrancar arc (before Ichigo went to Hueco Mundo) as the 3rd and last arc that can be considered as okay or good. After that, everything sucks.

    Upon rereading, I found that, Arrancar arc is not as good. Some of the thing that I hate in Bleach since Hueco Mundo arc for example like most of the characters were smug (starting from Aizen revealed as the bad guy), most of character talk and behave like the same. They talk like a smart person but they are not.

    And most of the fight since from the beginning, most of it really simple and shallow even thought they were not as bad as in Hueco Mundo and in later arcs where most of them just 2 or more characters talking with smugness, shock faces, attack from behind and same uncreative camera angle. even though in the 1st and 2nd arc, most fight might be really simple but at least they have nice camera angle, personality and story to go along with it like My Hero Academia. I like My Hero Academia, but most fight really simple and boring.

    There are some other things i've finally notice but you guys already discussing most of them to death in this forum/thread or applied logic blog.

    Today, I just got to chapter 222 - Ichigo manage to become Visored(?). Not sure if visored is the correct term for shinigami that gain hollow power like Arrancar is Hollow who gain Shinigami power. So I check Bleach Wiki and failed to get a concrete answer. Same with who were Vastolorde in Aizen's Espada army. I don't know who were vastolorde. And I just realizing this.
    Back in the day, I remember that thinking how stupid and badly written was Ichigo when he trusted Ginjo who he just met than Urahara. Ginjo just said, Urahara is a shady person and Ichigo suddenly trusted him and went to Xcution. Turn out, that is not the first time Ichigo doing that. He actually did the same thing in the arrancar arc when Rukia or one of his friends asked him to go to Urahara to seek help regarding Hollow power that grew inside of him and make him scared to fight and use bankai. He just said no and assume that Urahara might already know his problem but didn't have an answer or way to help him because if Urahara had an answer/way, Urahara might already told him. Then he went to seek Shinji/Visored help who he knows nothing of and Shinji already doing or acting suspiciously previously. What the hell Ichigo?
    At least Kubo consistent in that department.

    Another thing is, being already know/reading Bleach previously, when rereading it, make me sad and fell funny at the same time knowing that so many thing that already established in the first 3 arc will be useless and retcon.

    Anybody here know who were officially confirm as Vastolorde? And is Visored is the term or race for shinigami/hollow hybrid like Arrancar for Hollow/Shinigami hybrid? From databook or novels or something. I not really following Bleach. only reading the manga. I heard both Naruto and Bleach have some kind of databooks and novels that fill in many things that didn't exist in the manga originally. Thank you very much.
    Last edited by Hisoga; July 12th, 2018 at 09:13 AM. Reason: I apologized for bad english

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    Visored I think is the official term, old scans used Vizard or something like that.

    The vasto lord threat was badly handled, as in the end no one besides I think Arroniero revealed it's Hollow rank in the manga, and we only learned from Databooks that some of the upper echelons of the Espada were Vasto Lords. I don't remember exactly who, but at the very least up to Urquinaona.
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    I think Vizard looks better but it's pronounced as "vai-zard"

  5. #2925

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    Just remember that while there's Japanese soul society and Western soul society, Germans are doomed to being linked to Yhwach and Hispanics end up in hueco mundo (along with some Japanese people)

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxterdexter View Post
    Visored I think is the official term, old scans used Vizard or something like that.

    The vasto lord threat was badly handled, as in the end no one besides I think Arroniero revealed it's Hollow rank in the manga, and we only learned from Databooks that some of the upper echelons of the Espada were Vasto Lords. I don't remember exactly who, but at the very least up to Urquinaona.
    Thats what i thought after reading about vastolorde in Bleach wiki and there is no mention or a list of vastolorde. Usually fan wiki has those kind of thing. More so in Bleach wiki because they have more dedicated fan-fiction fans who like to write about Bleach. I mean if we look at Blach wiki, and read them, it feels like Bleach is written very well and complex.

    Quote Originally Posted by MetaMario View Post
    I think Vizard looks better but it's pronounced as "vai-zard"
    Yeah, I agree. But Visored still better than Lev Ely.
    but this mean, Shinigami Hollow Hybrid is Visored and Visored is not just SHinji and the gang?
    Thank you very much maxterdexter and MetaMario

  7. #2927

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetaMario View Post
    I think Vizard looks better but it's pronounced as "vai-zard"
    Its English, you guys invent and abandon pronunciation rules like Kubo does with powers.
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  8. #2928

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Hermit View Post
    Just remember that while there's Japanese soul society and Western soul society, Germans are doomed to being linked to Yhwach and Hispanics end up in hueco mundo (along with some Japanese people)
    Zommari is the most unusual looking Hispanic-Asian Espada I’ve see walking around Huecdo Mundo.
    Last edited by Green_vs_Red; July 12th, 2018 at 09:37 PM.
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_vs_Red View Post
    Zommari is the most unusual looking Hispanic-Asian Espada I’ve see walking around Huecdo Mundo.
    I don't make up the rules, I just calls them as I sees them

  10. #2930

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    Apparently so did the people working on the anime as Harribel was lightened up a few shades.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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  12. #2932

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    that oneshot's tone was all over the place and the entire thing was really convoluted and confusing

    dunno if kubo thought to make this into a series someday or it's just a one shot made for contract obligations..but if it's the first option, he really needs to get back to the blackboard and streamline this a bit.
    Last edited by Maju; July 13th, 2018 at 03:13 PM.

  13. #2933

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    Virgo is the worst thing in this oneshot.

    Spoiler:

  14. #2934

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    So...That was kinda messy. And needlessly lame about constantly thinking about underwear.

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    Well that answers all those jokes about foreign Soul Society branches. If nothing else, at least we're shown that it's only the Japanese afterlife that's a complete shithole.

    ... I was legitimately surprised at how consistently backgrounds were making an appearance, no joke. Virgo (hurr hurr at the pun) needs to be sent to Japan Soul Society's Hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crossword View Post
    ... I was legitimately surprised at how consistently backgrounds were making an appearance, no joke. Virgo (hurr hurr at the pun) needs to be sent to Japan Soul Society's Hell.
    So regular Soul Society?







  17. #2937

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    The one-shot definitely lost me at several points, but I had fun with it and it felt like early Bleach. And while I can understand the complaints about Virgo, I got a real kick out of the dragon screaming for panties, so imo it was worth it.


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    Dragons that kills indiscrimitated in Japan...Heh.

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    First line: "I like uniforms"

    ...Yeah, wow, really REALLY breaking new ground here.

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    That was a fun read. Hardly ground-breaking stuff, but it was fun the whole time, and some of Kubo's more creative art. The only stupid thing was the panties. Unless you're Rumiko Takahashi, that doesn't work.

    Kubo might be one of those authors who do their best writing short stories, or in this case one-shots.

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