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Thread: American Politics thread: No Nazis Allowed

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    Just by spending five minutes searching the things on that list I can already tell that everything here that was in any way actually incorrect was admitted to be a mistake and corrected by whoever put it out. But apparently the news media should be perfect, just like the president is, so there is clearly an evil agenda at play here to make Trump, who never does or would do anything incompetent, disrespectful, or racist, look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiolino View Post
    Exactly how many times are they going to do these redneck safari exhibitions and get called out for them.

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    Feels like we're missing the key fun part of the Fakies: they were announced out of nowhere like they'd be a big production, delayed for "overwhelming interest," then put out with little notice looking like a skeevy AlterNet blog post on a dead website.

    It's so quintessentially this administration.
    Hang in there, Kierkegaard.

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    To be fair, the fish feeding thing actually was an intentionally edited out of context fake and was a terrible thing purely because it does lend credibility to his crappy "everything is fake" narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No swords style best style View Post
    Just by spending five minutes searching the things on that list I can already tell that everything here that was in any way actually incorrect was admitted to be a mistake and corrected by whoever put it out. But apparently the news media should be perfect, just like the president is, so there is clearly an evil agenda at play here to make Trump, who never does or would do anything incompetent, disrespectful, or racist, look bad.
    Yep. Unfortunately, a lot of people see admitting a mistake as an "Aha!" when learning how to admit mistakes or changing your point of view based on new (reliable) information is a good thing.

    And yeah. There are some left news that's genuinely just shitty click bait. Reminds me of when people try to take certain people on twitter as news sources when they have a very unreliable history.


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    For example, not loving the recent truther focus on Trump's medical records. Might be some there there, but what's the point? Accomplishes nothing in the short or long term except maybe bragging rights down the road.
    Hang in there, Kierkegaard.

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    The medical records just reinforce my belief that Trump will be dead by 2020.

    In other news, David Simon will be making a miniseries out of The Plot Against America, one of the two books that properly foreshadow the situation we're in.

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    Well, it's like... you can just look at him and tell he's not in the excellent shape they're claiming. And he's 71, so no one is expecting him to be in the peak of health.

    So if they're lying about that, the questions is... why? Just to make the obvious lie of he's in fantastic shape? Or to actually hide legit bad news. Especially in this case, given the questions about his mental health and fitness to actually govern, there are legit medical questions to want to know honest answers to, and a flippant "he is in miraculous excellent health of a 23 year old and there are zero problems for the next 80 years" seems like a really bad dodge of an important couple questions.

    Given that historically we have things like Wilson's wife running the country after his stroke, not advertising the extent of Roosevelt's polio. and hiding Reagan's Alzheimer's, there is some precedent to pretending the president is in better shape than are for the sake of country.
    So, saying "the president is in good shape" in spite of that obviously being untrue isn't a huge issue in and of itself... aside from the mental thing, and covering that up IS a problem if there's any issue there. and we need to 25th amendment him out ASAP Otherwise that in particular is such a non issue it shouldn't be focused on either way (aside from maybe knowing the likely timetable for constitutional crisis or President Pence).

    The real problem is that it also applies to things like tax returns and collusion. How much is fib purely for the sake of appearances and ego, and how much is hiding actual bad stuff?

    And when the entire administration is basically nothing but lies? He can lie about his crowd sizes, (ego) or Obama wiretapping, (distraction) or global warming (stupidity) and those can be proven false (to anyone willing to actually look at evidence.) But other stuff, that affects our relations with other countries or the environment or tax code or education or wars or nukes.... not so much.
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