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    John Roberts basically acts as the leader of a political party.

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    https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday...10/11/day-630/

    Day 630: Highly unusual

    1/ U.S. intelligence intercepts indicate that the crown prince of Saudi Arabia ordered an operation to coax Jamal Khashoggi back to the kingdom in order to capture him. Khashoggi, a prominent critic of Mohammed bin Salman and the Saudi government, disappeared last week after he entered the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. A bipartisan group on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee invoked the Magnitsky Act to force the Trump administration to investigate the disappearance of Khashoggi, which requires the administration to respond within 120 days of potential sanctions against officials responsible for human rights violations. Trump said he is reluctant to cut off arms sales to Saudi Arabia, believing it "would be hurting" the U.S. economy. (Washington Post / Politico / CNN / Bloomberg)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...earance-892060

    2/ Trump pledged to "weed out" individuals inside his administration who he doesn't like or trust. When asked if that included Jeff Sessions, Trump replied that he is focused on the midterm elections. Melania Trump, meanwhile, said Trump has people working in his administration she doesn't trust and it is hard for the president to govern when "you always need to watch your back." Melania added that she is "the most bullied person on the world." #BeBest (Politico / ABC News / CNN / Washington Post)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...tration-893190

    3/ Trump spoke with Jeff Sessions' own chief of staff about replacing him as attorney general. It is not clear whether Trump wanted Matthew Whitaker to take over on an interim basis or to be nominated in a more permanent capacity. White House officials say they expect both Sessions and Rosenstein to remain in their positions at least until after the midterms. (Washington Post)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.3191dc0a0175

    4/ Trump is considering as many as five candidates to replace Jeff Sessions if he leaves as attorney general. The candidates include Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, Transportation Department general counsel Steven Bradbury, former Attorney General Bill Barr, Deputy Secretary of State John Sullivan and Janice Rogers Brown, a retired appeals court judge from the District of Columbia Circuit. Sessions isn't currently planning to leave, but has privately said he expects to be asked to resign. (Wall Street Journal)

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-i...ons-1539290740

    5/ Georgia's Secretary of State is holding more than 53,000 voter registration applications – nearly 70% from black voters – due to the state's "exact match" law, which requires that information on the application must match information on file with the Georgia Department of Driver Services or the Social Security Administration. Brian Kemp's office has cancelled over 1.4 million voter registrations since 2012 and nearly 670,000 registrations in 2017 alone. (Associated Press)

    https://apnews.com/fb011f39af3b40518b572c8cce6e906c

    poll/ 35% of young Americans ages 18-29 say they are absolutely certain to vote in the midterms, while 81% of seniors 65+ say they're certain to vote. 69% of Americans say their feelings about the state of the country are primarily negative. (The Atlantic / Public Religion Research Institute)

    https://www.prri.org/research/americ...erm-elections/

    Notables.
    Trump's legal team is preparing written answers to questions provided by Robert Mueller related to the investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians. The two sides have still not agreed on whether Trump will be interviewed in person regarding obstruction of justice related to the firing of FBI Director James Comey. (CNN)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/11/polit...ons/index.html

    The judge in one of Paul Manafort's criminal cases wants to move ahead with sentencing and whether Mueller's prosecutors will retry him on deadlocked counts. Manafort's plea deal, however, deferred sentencing until after his cooperation with Mueller's team concluded. It also pushed off the decision to retry him on 10 of the 18 counts that Virginia jurors couldn't agree on. Judge T.S. Ellis called the timeline in Manafort's plea deal "highly unusual," saying it didn't adhere to the usual schedule in his court. A hearing is set for next week. (Associated Press / NBC News)

    https://apnews.com/90fa9f48e4964be3b9b5862de2c4eef1

    Trump accused Hillary Clinton of colluding with Russia during the 2016 election campaign. "There was collusion between Hillary, the Democrats and Russia," Trump claimed during a campaign rally in Erie, Pennsylvania. His supporters chanted "lock her up." (NBC News)

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...ck-her-n918836

    Andrew McCabe says the FBI is stalling publication of his book, "The Threat: How the FBI Protects America in the Age of Terror and Trump." The former deputy director of the FBI said he has been singled out for what he calls "irregular unfair treatment." McCabe was fired in March for what the Justice Department called a lack of candor following an inspector general report accusing him of misleading investigators. He has denied any wrongdoing. (ABC News / NBC News)

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fire...ry?id=58420204

    Michael Cohen changed his party registration from Republican to Democrat. Trump's former attorney pleaded guilty in August to eight criminal counts of tax fraud, making false statements to a bank and campaign finance violations. He implicated Trump by suggesting that the violations were at his direction. (Axios)

    https://www.axios.com/michael-cohen-...66deda15c.html

    Trump blamed the stock market correction on the "out of control" Federal Reserve, criticizing chairman Jerome Powell for "going loco." Trump said he won't fire Powell, but is "just disappointed." Presidents for more than two decades had avoided publicly criticizing the Fed's interest-rate policies as a way of demonstrating respect for the institution's independence. The Dow traded 200 points lower, bringing its two-day losses to more than 1,000 points (Bloomberg / CNBC)

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/11/trum...l-reserve.html

    Instead of discussing prison reform, Kanye West plunged into a 10-minute rant in the Oval Office, referring to himself as "a crazy motherfucker" akin to "tasting a fine wine" with "complex notes" for supporting Trump, complimented the president for making him "a Superman cape" by way of the red "Make America Great Again" hat, pitched the president on replacing Air Force One with a hydrogen-powered "iPlane 1" that he'd like Apple to design, and repeatedly complimented Trump, saying the president "is on his hero's journey right now." After West finished his soliloquy, Trump said: "That was quite something." (Reuters / NPR / Rolling Stone / BuzzFeed News)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1ML26N

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    Saudis preparing to admit Jamal Khashoggi died during interrogation, sources say

    This news days seems pretty stupid. It seems like Saudi Arabia is going to claim they killed Khashoggi by accident, meanwhile Trump is blaming the incident on "rouge killers." There's no way this should work.

    The article itself:
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    Ankara, Turkey (CNN)The Saudis are preparing a report that will acknowledge that Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi's death was the result of an interrogation that went wrong, one that was intended to lead to his abduction from Turkey, according to two sources.

    One source says the report will likely conclude that the operation was carried out without clearance and transparency and that those involved will be held responsible.
    One of the sources acknowledged that the report is still being prepared and cautioned that things could change.

    The Washington Post columnist was last seen in public when he entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in Turkey on October 2.

    Previously, Saudi authorities had maintained Khashoggi left the consulate the same afternoon of his visit, but provided no evidence to support the claim.
    Khashoggi's fiancée, Hatice Cengiz, who was waiting outside the consulate, says she did not see him re-emerge.

    The disappearance created a diplomatic rift between Saudi Arabia and the West. Amid the fallout, international firms pulled out of a high-profile investment summit, the Future Investment Initiative conference, due to take place later this month in Riyadh.

    The case also caused friction between Saudi Arabia and Turkey, which has repeatedly accused the Saudis of failing to cooperate with their investigation.

    Turkish authorities previously said they believed that 15 Saudi men who arrived in Istanbul on October 2 were connected to Khashoggi's disappearance and possible murder. At least some of them appear to have high-level connections in the Saudi government.
    On Friday, a source familiar with the investigation told CNN that Turkish authorities have audio and visual evidence that shows journalist Khashoggi was killed inside the consulate.

    CNN reporters saw Turkish investigators, including forensics officers, entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul Monday evening. Saudi officials had granted permission for the premises to be searched, a Turkish diplomatic source told CNN, and police were seen cordoning off the area before investigators arrived. Turkish officials also wanted to search the nearby consul general's residence.

    Earlier Monday, President Donald Trump suggested that "rogue killers" could be behind Khashoggi's disappearance, after a phone call with Saudi Arabia's King Salman about the case. Trump said King Salman told him "in a very firm way that they had no knowledge of it."

    Trump also said he dispatched Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to meet with King Salman, during a Sunday night phone call.

    On the airplane, State Department Spokesperson Heather Nauert told reporters that Secretary Pompeo "looks forward to meeting with King Salman."
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    Rouge is the most terrifying color.

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    https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday...10/15/day-634/

    Day 634: Who cares.

    1/ Trump suggested that "rogue killers" may be responsible for the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi because King Salman "firmly denied any knowledge" of what happened. "It sounded to me like maybe these could have been rogue killers," Trump said. "Who knows?" During an interview with "60 Minutes," Trump said that even though the Saudis denied involvement in Khashoggi's disappearance, it was still possible that they were responsible. "We're going to get to the bottom of it, and there will be severe punishment." (New York Times / Politico / CBS News)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...di-king-900193

    2/ The Saudis are preparing to admit that Khashoggi's death was the result of an interrogation gone wrong. Previously, Saudi authorities had maintained Khashoggi left the consulate the same afternoon of his visit, but provided no evidence to support the claim. Multiple sources said the Saudis are discussing a plan to admit that Khashoggi was killed after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, but that the operation was carried out without clearance in an effort to absolve Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of responsibility by giving him plausible deniability to say he didn't order the killing and didn't know about it.(CNN) / NBC News)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/middl...key/index.html

    3/ Jared Kushner appears to have paid almost no federal income taxes from 2009 to 2016. Kushner used a tax-minimizing loophole that kept his tax bill low by reporting real estate losses based on "significant depreciation," according confidential financial documents. Nothing in the documents indicate that Kushner broke the law. Despite Kushner Companies being profitable, Kushner has been losing money for years as far as the IRS is concerned, because the losses were driven by depreciation. Real estate investors deduct a portion of the cost of their buildings from their taxable income every year. (New York Times)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/13/b...ner-taxes.html

    The Re-up: Trump inherited his family's wealth through fraud and questionable tax schemes, receiving the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father's real estate empire. Trump has repeatedly claimed that "I built what I built myself." Trump and his siblings used fake corporations to hide financial gifts from their parents, which helped Fred Trump claim millions in tax deductions. Trump also helped his parents undervalue their real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars when filing their tax returns. In total, Fred and Mary Trump transferred more than $1 billion in wealth to their children and paid a total of $52.2 million in taxes (about 5%) instead of the $550+ million they should have owed under the 55% tax rate imposed on gifts and inheritances. Trump also "earned" $200,000 a year in today's dollars from his father's companies starting at age 3. After college, Trump started receiving the equivalent of $1 million a year, which increased to $5 million a year when he was in his 40s and 50s. Trump has refused to release his income tax returns, breaking with decades of practice by past presidents. There is no time limit on civil fines for tax fraud. [Editor's note: This is a must read. An abstract summary does not suffice.] (New York Times)

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...red-trump.html

    4/ Sen. Elizabeth Warren released the results of a DNA test that provides "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back six to 10 generations. Warren has been mocked by Trump and other Republicans for claiming she has Native American blood. (Boston Globe / NPR / Washington Post)

    https://www.npr.org/2018/10/15/65746...rican-ancestry

    5/ Trump denied offering Warren $1 million to take a test proving her Native American heritage. "Who cares?" Trump said when asked about Warren's DNA test. "I didn't say that. You better read it again." At a rally in July, Trump said: "And we will say, 'I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian … we'll see what she does. I have a feeling she will say no but we will hold it for the debates." (Washington Post / CNN / The Hill)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/polit...ion/index.html

    poll/ 41% approve of the job Trump is doing – up from 36% in late August. 54% disapprove of his work in office. (ABC News)

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=58469893

    poll/ 46% of Americans think Trump will win a second term while and 47% say he won't. In March, 54% of adults said they thought Trump would lose his bid for a second term. (CNN)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/14/polit...020/index.html

    poll/ 77% of registered voters say they are certain to vote in the midterm elections next month or have already voted. 54% of voters say they prefer the next Congress to be in Democratic hands as a way of providing a check on Trump – from 60 percent in August. (Washington Post)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...b1f_story.html

    Notables.

    Trump said it doesn't matter whether Christine Blasey Ford was telling the truth, "because we won. It doesn't matter." Ford testified that Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her when they were in high school during the 1980s, telling the Senate Judiciary Committee that she thought she would "accidentally be killed" by Kavanaugh. (CBS News / CNN / NBC News / The Hill)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/14/polit...iew/index.html

    A Trump campaign donor and Mar-a-Lago member gave $150,000 to help current and former Trump aides caught up in Robert Mueller's Russia probe. (Politico)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...r-probe-900431

    A top National Security Council aide is leaving the White House after roughly five months on the job. Fred Fleitz served as John Bolton's chief of staff. (The Hill / CNN)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/polit...cil/index.html

    Trump suggested that Defense Secretary James Mattis could be one of the next administration officials to leave. "At some point," Trump said, "everybody leaves." (CBS News)

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-6...leave-cabinet/

    The federal budget deficit grew to $779 billion in Trump's first full fiscal year as president – the highest level in six years. The deficit rose nearly 17% year over year, from $666 billion in 2017, and is on pace to top $1 trillion a year before the next presidential election. (CNBC / Bloomberg / New York Times)

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/us-b...ng-surges.html

    Trump said that Sears had been mismanaged for years before it declared bankruptcy. Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin was a member of Sears's board from 2005 until December 2016. (Bloomberg)

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-on-its-board

    A Republican lawmaker took a student's cell phone from him while he was being asked about voter suppression in the state. The student asked Sen. David Perdue: "Hey, so, uh, how can you endorse a candidate — " before Perdue snatched the cell phone from his hands. Perdue eventually gave the phone back to the student and walked away without answering the question. (Washington Post)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.3e56084d2771

    The Department of Homeland Security said there's been an increasing number of attempted cyber attacks on U.S. election databases ahead of next month's midterms. The federal government does not know who is behind the attacks. (NBC News)

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...-ahead-n920336

    Trump hung a fictional painting in the White House that shows him seated at a table with past Republican presidents. Rep. Darrel Issa gave the painting to Trump, which is called "The Republican Club" by Andy Thomas. (Daily Beast)

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...in-white-house

    (For what it's worth, there's also a Democrats' Club painting)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgamer82 View Post
    Trump hung a fictional painting in the White House that shows him seated at a table with past Republican presidents. Rep. Darrel Issa gave the painting to Trump, which is called "The Republican Club" by Andy Thomas. (Daily Beast)

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...in-white-house

    (For what it's worth, there's also a Democrats' Club painting)
    Oh he made an updated one. The old one was the GOP presidents playing pool and Ike not beating Nixon to death with a pool cue for some reason.

    The Democratic one is marginally better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyan D. Funk View Post
    Spoiler:
    https://i.imgur.com/qsJXYii.jpg

    one of these things, is not like the others~
    one of these things, doesn't belong~
    I mean, you could make a case that Clinton and/or Wilson can get kicked out together with Jackson too

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    Anyway, the Elizabeth Warren news cycle has convinced me Trump will get reelected because the media pounces on some dumb non-issue again.

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    So while nationally it's been pretty depressing recently, at least I've been having good experiences working for Perry Gershon running in NY01.

    For one, about a week and half ago we were contacted by Warren as a part of her list of flippable congressional districts. Polling has us roughly 50/50 with Zeldin, the Republican incumbent, but we're getting more and more confident that we can beat him. Mainly because of petty things, like him repeatedly backing out of debates and his supporters stealing our lawn signs in LARGE numbers. But in more concrete evidence, polling puts us 50/50 right now, though Zeldin's name recogntion is somewhere near 93% in our district, where as Perry is only at roughly 40%. Meaning if we're 50/50 with so much less recognition, it means that the Democrats we've been talking to are motivated to vote, and that we can only increase our viability in this race.

    Plus I got to meet and take a picture with Alec Baldwin at a fundraiser last week, and get to meet Illana Glazer in two weeks So sometimes politics can be fun.
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    and his supporters stealing our lawn signs in LARGE numbers.
    Yeah that sounds like Suffolk.

    I'm seeing more Gershon signs than I ever did see Throne-Holst signs so that's something.


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    I see a relatively even split in local neighborhoods but I'd probably see more if Zeldin's base didn't see fit to be thieves.

    It's good to hear that Gershon is doing pretty well though. Suffolk's really needed a kick in the rear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyan D. Funk View Post
    Yeah that sounds like Suffolk.

    I'm seeing more Gershon signs than I ever did see Throne-Holst signs so that's something.

    I mean I don't know how she ran her campaign, but just looking at the numbers of people that voted in the primary for this year -a midterm- compared to a presidential year is astounding. So that gives me some hope. And she seemed very hands-off when it came to mentioning Zeldin, but it might be easier now since he's such a Trumper that it helps us use that against him.

    At the same time, none of us are basking in the positive numbers we've been getting. We keep reminding ourselves that this district is won by a small number of voters and need to do what we can to get every voter we can.


    Ironically, Zeldin's latest ad has been HELPING us because it's like he's trying to make a meme out of "I've got chocolate on my hands" Perry that it's working as a funny icebreaker as we're canvassing

    https://youtu.be/CjxXZFibzLs?t=21
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    Trump hung a fictional painting in the White House that shows him seated at a table with past Republican presidents. Rep. Darrel Issa gave the painting to Trump, which is called "The Republican Club" by Andy Thomas. (Daily Beast)

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...in-white-house

    (For what it's worth, there's also a Democrats' Club painting)
    Funny that Lincoln's face isn't showing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiolino View Post
    The first few paragraphs for context sake:

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday blamed rising federal deficits and debt on a bipartisan unwillingness to contain spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, and said he sees little chance of a major deficit reduction deal while Republicans control Congress and the White House.

    "It’s disappointing but it’s not a Republican problem," McConnell said in an interview with Bloomberg News when asked about the rising deficits and debt. "It’s a bipartisan problem: Unwillingness to address the real drivers of the debt by doing anything to adjust those programs to the demographics of America in the future."

    McConnell’s remarks came a day after the Treasury Department said the U.S. budget deficit grew to $779 billion in Donald Trump’s first full fiscal year as president, the result of the GOP’s tax cuts, bipartisan spending increases and rising interest payments on the national debt. That’s a 77 percent increase from the $439 billion deficit in fiscal 2015, when McConnell became majority leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgamer82 View Post
    Trump hung a fictional painting in the White House that shows him seated at a table with past Republican presidents. Rep. Darrel Issa gave the painting to Trump, which is called "The Republican Club" by Andy Thomas. (Daily Beast)

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...in-white-house

    (For what it's worth, there's also a Democrats' Club painting)
    Trump be looking mighty skinny in that painting ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyan D. Funk View Post
    Oh he made an updated one. The old one was the GOP presidents playing pool and Ike not beating Nixon to death with a pool cue for some reason.

    The Democratic one is marginally better.

    Spoiler:
    https://i.imgur.com/qsJXYii.jpg

    one of these things, is not like the others~
    one of these things, doesn't belong~
    All these are fun depending on your party. You just don't hang it in the fucking White House. For any president.

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    Funny, I actually saw those paintings in a picture store a few weeks ago.

    They're nice, but...yeah, maybe don't include any presidents from before the parties switched.

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    https://twitter.com/politico/status/1052307688732983296

    Justice Roberts: "Now the court has from time to time erred, and erred greatly but when it has, it has been because the court yielded to political pressure."
    The court will soon be lurching much further to the right than most Americans want as expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    The court will soon be lurching much further to the right than most Americans want as expected.
    Gee it sure was a good idea to vote for Donald Trump/Vote Third Party wasn't it?

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    So much for the calls for civility.
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