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    Quote Originally Posted by sonnet View Post
    I don't think his genetic super-human traits have awakened yet.
    I thought those genetic super-human traits were erased when Sora took that drug.
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    the thing i find unbelievable is that in the onepiece world it's the 3 eyes girl that it's treatd like a freak..with all the poeple with animal parts,double elbow,half fishman and such it's a third eye that it's an abomination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dranza View Post
    Can't believe people were holding out on Sanji actually hitting Pudding for some comeuppance and were labelling it as "potential growth" for Sanji's character. You've clearly been reading the wrong manga because this is a character who'd rather die than do something like that, call it a quirk or a flaw, it doesn't matter, it's who Sanji is and it's here to stay.
    yeah,that would have been stupid.
    the moment sanji refused to hit a girl to save his life and robin's it was set that this is a quirk that he is going to bring to his tomb..and i don't particularly mind it myself,since it's kind of what i have been taught my whole life..of course in real life women are not super-powered pirate warriors so it really does not apply...but i don't think it's something to hate about sanji

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maju View Post
    the thing i find unbelievable is that in the onepiece world it's the 3 eyes girl that it's treatd like a freak..with all the poeple with animal parts,double elbow,half fishman and such it's a third eye that it's an abomination?
    Well to be fair most of the teasing done to her were from her kid siblings and kids can be quite juvenile and I think the BM being appalled by her third eye is an exaggeration, BM doesn't mind it just finds it a little "creepy" which is completely different to "I can't stand to look at you" maybe she was even doing her a favor by telling her to grow out her bangs because she knew her other kids would find it creepy too.


    Quote Originally Posted by KageKageKing View Post
    I thought those genetic super-human traits were erased when Sora took that drug.
    She took those drugs in attempt to rid them of those traits but there's no guarantee it would have worked if anything it could have lead to inhibiting them for a while and leading to a later onset to kick in.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kishido View Post
    Yep I am and now lets move on
    shortest flame ever lol
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    Man, that shot of multiple Luffys coming out of the wedding cake was awesome.

    Glad to see Sanji showing off his CoO proficiency, a battle with Dogtooth should be very interesting although I'll be disappointed if we miss out on him kicking Ichiji and Niji's heads in.

    Not sure how to feel about Pudding's seemingly paper thin reasoning for having qualms/a change of heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageKageKing View Post
    I thought those genetic super-human traits were erased when Sora took that drug.
    Well, yeah, this is what's been implied (that Sora succeed to leave at least one of his four sons with human qualities).
    But I feel like somehow the drugs will only suppress the super-human abilities on sanji for longer than compared to its brothers (after all the drug was not infallible considering that out of for affected only Sanji) but not erased completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dranza View Post
    Can't believe people were holding out on Sanji actually hitting Pudding for some comeuppance and were labelling it as "potential growth" for Sanji's character. You've clearly been reading the wrong manga because this is a character who'd rather die than do something like that, call it a quirk or a flaw, it doesn't matter, it's who Sanji is and it's here to stay.
    Or at least, Zoro should've to kill Tashigi too in order to become the greatest.

    Just kidding, it seemed ubelievable to me too.
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    So imagine as an actress you've been rehearsing how the play ought to have gone and then on the day of the play the other person doesn't say their line (or give the right reaction that you expected them to) you'd be a bit taken aback no? Especially if it's something so unexpected as a compliment of something you were made to feel ugly for your entire life. I can see that it might be a bit soft and overused when it comes to Oda but it's certainly a believable reaction from Pudding, if nothing else.



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    Interesting chapter, I want more, haha
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    Chapter looked great to me.

    Pudding meltdown wasn't execute perfectly but it's still decent. Maybe already seen like someone pointed out but still not so bad in my opinion. She's not (yet) a good person in a whim but at least worked decently.

    Katakuri seems the real badass here, not Mom, anything can happen at this moment. I thought that the Mother Carmel incident would take place before Luffy's entrance, let's see how Capone act from now on.

    Luffy has been awesome all arc long, a real flamboyant entrance. Funny how the struggle with the clones of the seducing woods fires back at BM.
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    Well wasn't expecting entrance like that,took while to reach the conclusion that it was Brule power doing.
    So can only recognize(besides Luffy) Jinbei ,Pedro ,Chopper the rest im not sure.
    Really liked the chapter.


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    The Pudding thing feels more like how the issue with the handcuffs was resolved. A surprise just inserted into the story that discounts the build-up we've had for Pudding so far.

    But the page with the Luffy's coming out... I don't know what's going on, but this is exactly the kind of crazyness that this arc is supposed to have. I'm going to say that this will be remembered as one of the most iconic shots of the series.

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    Do people seriously think Pudding is good now? No, it was just a way for Oda to explain how she became so sick and twisted, he was not trying to redeem her. It stunned her but she still wanted to kill him, Pudding hasn't changed. Was Arlong supposed to be redeemed because he had a sad backstory with the death of Fisher Tiger? Nope, so please stop thinking of it as redemption for Pudding, she's still evil. Great chapter though, I wonder how Luffy managed to pull that off and are we on a break because of Golden Week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobZilla View Post
    Not sure how to feel about Pudding's seemingly paper thin reasoning for having qualms/a change of heart.
    Yes, it's clearly not reasoning she rides on, but her emotions. She was planning to make Sanji's disgusted face as culmination and trigger to let her dump out her negative emotions she had built up by shooting him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatanas View Post
    Am I the only one who liked the part with Pudding? It's not only surprising to her, but also us readers. Big Mom, collector and uniter of all races, yet os disgusted by her daughters third eye? That's amazing in a way.
    It makes no sense for her to be disgusted by it considering that she would have to willingly get laid by a three eyed man to have Pudding, and just a few chapters before this she was shown creaming her pants with joy at the prospect of Pudding's 3rd eye awakening a remarkable power that can help her achieve one of her dreams. To which Pudding said that Big Mom asks about her awakening her power like that all the time. I'd even be willing to accept Pudding being singled out in a country where every species in the world coexists since she'd be the only one with 3 eyes, if Oda was at least consistent with how Big Mom thought of her.

    But now the woman who had sex with Pound is going "Ew that's gross" to the trait of a child she presumably had for the express purpose of utilizing that trait to achieve an extraordinary feat that almost no one else in the world can achieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatCaptainUsopp View Post
    Do people seriously think Pudding is good now? No, it was just a way for Oda to explain how she became so sick and twisted, he was not trying to redeem her. It stunned her but she still wanted to kill him, Pudding hasn't changed. Was Arlong supposed to be redeemed because he had a sad backstory with the death of Fisher Tiger? Nope, so please stop thinking of it as redemption for Pudding, she's still evil. Great chapter though, I wonder how Luffy managed to pull that off and are we on a break because of Golden Week?
    It's manga about pirates, so what difference does cliched good/evil make?

  17. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underworld1991 View Post
    Yeah it's a bullshit twist but it's Oda and females what can you fo other than shake your head.
    I really don't see how it's a bullshit twist .
    From earlier chapters we can see that children on island crazy and big mom hardly seems to care.
    I don't like it but it not hard to believe that big mom other children made fun of her because she had 3 eyes .
    From the pics she is the odd person out .
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    Daaamn, Sanji can be quite the ladykiller if he wants to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurloz View Post
    It makes no sense for her to be disgusted by it considering that she would have to willingly get laid by a three eyed man to have Pudding, and just a few chapters before this she was shown creaming her pants with joy at the prospect of Pudding's 3rd eye awakening a remarkable power that can help her achieve one of her dreams. To which Pudding said that Big Mom asks about her awakening her power like that all the time. I'd even be willing to accept Pudding being singled out in a country where every species in the world coexists since she'd be the only one with 3 eyes, if Oda was at least consistent with how Big Mom thought of her.

    But now the woman who had sex with Pound is going "Ew that's gross" to the trait of a child she presumably had for the express purpose of utilizing that trait to achieve an extraordinary feat that almost no one else in the world can achieve.
    even though i feel like pudding's part was full of BS, about big mom i feel like there is a possibility that she didn't know about that power at the time, but seems unlikely tho...

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    I can understand Chopper facing discrimination among the human population.
    But Pudding being discriminated in WCI where everyone look bizarre & consist of different races? What? And she was one of Big mom daughter & people still dare to bully her? A third eye is apparently too weird in WCI??
    Feel like forced drama where Pudding will really fall in love with Sanji & turn good. It's the Viola situation again. Oda will probably spin it to show how Sanji's kindness was a good thing.

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