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    Quote Originally Posted by O baba View Post
    I enjoy the chapter!

    but, how come falling on her knees make her bleed but a rocket trowing at her doens't?
    When she's doing that scream whatever inherent toughness she has seems to go away. Scraping her knees is the sign that's happened and that rockets CAN hurt her now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dranza View Post
    So does Yonji's eyes being all white indicate that he too passed out?
    He's up. It's Niji who seems to be hunched over in page where Sanji is on top of table, so I wonder if didn't he pass out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O baba View Post
    I enjoy the chapter!

    but, how come falling on her knees make her bleed but a rocket trowing at her doens't?
    They haven't shot her yet.

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    Going to Elbaf in a flashback does feel more unexpected and exciting than just knowing it's the next island on line. Hopefully it won't spoil too much but just gives the necessary information to anticipate it even more when we reach it

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    I don't know if someone has speculated about this before, but Big Moms weakness has a serious resemblance to the Achille's Heel tale with BM only bleeding from one knee and such without a particular reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tenth Strawhat View Post
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    Woo! Big Mom flashback hype! I wonder if we'll see Dorry, Brogy, Oimo, Kashi or Hajrudin in the background?

    Edit: Slightly ninja'd by Zacho
    Dorry and Brogy should already have their fight on Little garden by that time, but Oimo and Kashi are quite possible. Maybe even Roger, if the Location and the time jumps through BM's certain Points of her life (she got "tricked" by Roger so he was able to reach Raftel with her R-poneglyph).
    IIRC Law's flashback also skipped through the years of his disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STP_PS View Post
    I don't know if someone has speculated about this before, but Big Moms weakness has a serious resemblance to the Achille's Heel tale with BM only bleeding from one knee and such without a particular reason.
    There is a reason - her emotional despair during the portrait outburst causes her to become physically weak. If I went out onto the street wearing shorts and dropped to my knees without catching myself, they would probably get scraped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaido King of the Beasts View Post
    There is a reason - her emotional despair during the portrait outburst causes her to become physically weak. If I went out onto the street wearing shorts and dropped to my knees without catching myself, they would probably get scraped.
    Are we speaking about the same Lady/Monster who doesn't get harm even after fighting and sinking warships at sea? because I can hardly understand how falling to your knees could be more catastrophic than receiving a cannonball. More so when she is only bleeding from one of them. It's like the leaf that covered Achilles' heel when he bathed in Dragon Blood.
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    Review is out! Had a great time with this chapter. Pretty pumped for Elbaf!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by STP_PS View Post
    Are we speaking about the same Lady/Monster who doesn't get harm even after fighting and sinking warships at sea? because I can hardly understand how falling to your knees could be more catastrophic than receiving a cannonball. More so when she is only bleeding from one of them. It's like the leaf that covered Achilles' heel when he bathed in Dragon Blood.
    You ignored the part about the portrait rendering Big Mom physically weak. She just took a little scrape just like a normal human since that's what she's essentially become. Being as fat and old as she is probably amplifies the force and damage. If she was hit by a cannonball right now there would be a lot more damage, hence why the Firetanks are going after her with rocket launchers.
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    Have to say Sanji did look like a boss standing on the table smoking.

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    Do people here not read the manga? The entire plan is to have the picture break, show it to Big Mom because that's the only situation where she is vulnerable to physical attacks. Bege explained this, it's why all this is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokuonge View Post
    holy shit and its mother's day this sunday. ODA YOU GENIUS SON OF A B.....
    Nah mother's day was last Sunday.

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    I mentioned in the spoilers, but it's gratifying that BM screamed, less so that it's such an old woman they're up against.
    Bege seemed a little more pathetic in the re-read, though. Why no haki bullets? What use is he, period in combat if he can't do that much?
    Perhaps the question most worth repeating is, if (outside) Bege walked into a mirror that led inside himself, where would his body go
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaido King of the Beasts View Post
    You ignored the part about the portrait rendering Big Mom physically weak. She just took a little scrape just like a normal human since that's what she's essentially become. Being as fat as she is probably amplifies the force and damage. If she was hit by a cannonball right now there would be a lot more damage, hence why the Firetanks are going after her with rocket launchers.
    After reading your reply I noticed that we have different interpretations on the events.
    -As far as I understand you're seeing BM as someone who has been weakened in its entirety meaning that any attack directed at her right now would be effective.
    -From my point of view BM has entered a shock state where she displays her only weakness. Her right knee.

    For all I know I might be wrong but all we've got so far is that she has been weakened, we haven't been told in what way. That's why I think the missiles will be targeted at her injured knee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycrow View Post
    I mentioned in the spoilers, but it's gratifying that BM screamed, less so that it's such an old woman they're up against.
    Bege seemed a little more pathetic in the re-read, though. Why no haki bullets? What use is he, period in combat if he can't do that much?
    Bege wasn't the one shooting the guns, his subordinates were. Against a guy like Katakuri, who not only has a Logia but advanced Haki to boot, there was pretty much zero chance of taking him out by force and the gunshots were likely meant as distractions.
    Perhaps the question most worth repeating is, if (outside) Bege walked into a mirror that led inside himself, where would his body go
    Well he can enter himself (lewd)

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    Quote Originally Posted by STP_PS View Post
    Are we speaking about the same Lady/Monster who doesn't get harm even after fighting and sinking warships at sea? because I can hardly understand how falling to your knees could be more catastrophic than receiving a cannonball. More so when she is only bleeding from one of them. It's like the leaf that covered Achilles' heel when he bathed in Dragon Blood.
    Apparently people interpret it differently, but to me it's obvious that Big Mom's "iron balloonishness" stems from her haki and not some super thick skin. Her defense is simply strong and always active (similar to Whitebeard dodging stuff in his sleep). People calling her an untouchable iron balloon is a metaphor, just like Sanji calling Vergo "basically a mass of iron".

    The mental breakdown gets rid of her haki defense, which makes sense since Haki is considered manifested willpower.

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    I enjoyed the chapter and the moment when people start collapsing was awesome. It's funny. At the same time I both like and dislike how Oda portrayed what followed.

    As expected, BM has a "history" with Elbaf. With this arc's pacing, the flashback could be done in one chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabra View Post
    Apparently people interpret it differently, but to me it's obvious that Big Mom's "iron balloonishness" stems from her haki and not some super thick skin. Her defense is simply strong and always active (similar to Whitebeard dodging stuff in his sleep). People calling her an untouchable iron balloon is a metaphor, just like Sanji calling Vergo "basically a mass of iron".

    The mental breakdown gets rid of her haki defense, which makes sense since Haki is considered manifested willpower.
    I could get behind this.
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    There wasn't a reason for the Big Mom Pirates to step into Katakuri's fight - he was handling all of the alliance members perfectly fine and they only succeeded in getting Big Mom to freak out thanks to Luffy using his DF powers at the last second.

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