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    Quote Originally Posted by zuppamann View Post
    Magellan did something similar, or am I wrong?
    don't think so...magellan has been shown only to be able to coa himself with venom,not become it
    kartakuri is "special" because he can actually turn his body into the stuff,becoming a mixture between a mr 3 kind of paramecia and one like luffy that has his entire body become a certain material.
    but he shouldn't have the normal defensive abilities of logia either, but he compensate by dodging "creatively"

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    Quote Originally Posted by .access timeco. View Post
    I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed that we got this big reveal about Katakuri dodging Luffy attacks by simply doing what Akainu already did many arcs ago. I wonder if Oda forgot he had used that already since he is making such a big deal out of it (I can understand it being new to Luffy, but it seems like Oda is expecting it to be new to the reader too).
    The difference is that. Akainu is a Logia while Katakuri is a paramecia. For logias, changing the shape of their body comes naturally. I believe that paramecias would not only need to be awakened but would also need an insane COO to achieve such feat. I think the stress is over (hey this is what an awakened paramecia can do)

    Edit: Plus oh if you think COO is the least powerful of the haki attributes... think again
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    Prauline is a goddess. Loved Katakuri's Awakening attack as well, really bodes well as to what we can expect from future Awakening users, because Doflamingo was (understandably) not that impressive of a formal introduction.

    Gonna be Luffy's hardest fight yet for sure, but he's got this one way or another.

    As for Oven/Daifuku, I don't really care who Sanji fights. But now that a BM Pirate is in Sanji's vicinity, I'm now suddenly overcome with the urge to see him get that fight, despite previously being under the mindset that Sanji doesn't necessarily need one this arc.

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    So Luffy will be able to read the future too... takes me back to EL days when he first used gear 2nd.

    EDIT: why do I feel I also learned how to read it... I will show myself out
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    Oops. This seems to be the right place today.

    Ok so finally finally finally we get a decent explanation for what Akainu did(or may have done) when avoiding a hit from Vista and Marco at Marineford!

    This was a fun chapter! The fight has been so cool, seeing the kitchen and those giant cakes is so cool, and watching Praline siren her way to victory with symbols and horns being played under water is just so cool!
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    Still an awesome fight between Luffy and Katakuri, although Luffy wasn't really able to capitalize as much on Katakuri loosing his focus as I thought. I can really see this fight being his "New World Lucci 'bout", where he will be pushed to the absolute brink of defeat before breaking his limits and coming out on top. With Katakuri's Strong Mocchi punch we also saw that he seems to be slightly above what Luffy has shown since the timeskip in terms of raw physical destructive power (I'm aware the term "physical" might be debatable, seeing how his DF is involved, but still...). As mentioned in the chapter basically we're back to square one now with this fight and Luffy's only options are to either get Katakuri to loose his focus again or evolve throughout the fight and actually get better/faster/stronger than him. Also, maybe he still hasn't shown everything, but I'm pretty sure this is gonna be settled with G4 only. Either way, the tension in this fight is definitely still there I think. :)

    P.S. As mentioned before by some users, knocking his head into the ground to both regain his composure and prevent his back from touching said ground was such a badass move by Katakuri and really menacing as well.
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    This chapter was a million times better than the spoilers sounded, Luffy's is dang awesome and it's to see Luffy's Gear 4 can do.

    Honestly, didn't care for Sanji's part, wish we'd just get another focus chapter on Luffy's.
    I agree, thus really does feel like Luffy V.S Lucci of the New World. I'm wondering how Luffy will win.

    Could Sanji get a fight next? Who knows, Oda's unpredictable with his character this arc and not in a good way :/

    Over all enoyable. Are we getting a break again? UGH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralf21 View Post
    I'll suppose you meant abiding by the rules.
    "It's 101", shame on me for expecting something more interesting. You criticize my lack of creativity then go on to praise the bland old mixture you've been spoonfed for decades ...
    My problem with Katakuri's "weakness" is what it bodes for the future, how will Luffy defeat Kaido ? He'll find out mid-fight that if you tickle his right elbow he drops his CoA ?
    And then sure, MY mind doesn't want creativity, I lack objectivity, when all i'm asking for is to be pleasently surprised. I could give answer, but then it would turn too personnal. Have a nice day.
    Get personal, I'm not sensitive.
    It wouldn't be new for creative or interesting for Luffy to lose to an opponent though, which you seem to want, eh? We've seen that with Crocodile, Lucci, Ceasar, Magellan, the entirety of Marineford. It's not new, but I don't think it happening the way you seem to intend and right now would bode well at all for a fight with Kaido. If Luffy is to power up and be forced to get stronger, it should be for a Yonkou, not a lieutenant. If he doesn't have a way to get around a guy on Katakuri's level, the timeskip was a waste.

    Plus, we're at the right place with this. Luffy knows his weakness; actually vulnerability is a better term. That he needs extreme amounts of composure to use his color of observation the way he needs to. And it's not as if we all haven't been wondering what's made Katakuri so special, or how he seems to appear like a Logia. We were given an answer to that question and understand that his main strength is also one of his biggest vulnerabilities. Would you rather Luffy just come back, stronger, awoken, and better with Haki? I suppose that's an answer, but to me it's not the right one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luffyfan View Post
    Are we getting a break again? UGH!
    The opening post literally says no break, learn to read.

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    A meh chapter. Really kinda feels like filler to get us to the next big event in this arc.

    Really there is nothing else left to say.

    Yet, I look forward to this thread taking one part of the chapter and breaking it down to the bloody bone marrow for the next 6 days.
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    Turning the area into arms... now I'm seeing how luffy will use his awakening. Bounce house was just too lame, but this? Changes the whole thing!!

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    Praline


    I absolutely loved the confidence Sanji showed when proclaiming Katakuri's first lose to Luffy. Especially in light of everything he said about not believing in Luffy in front of the Vinsmokes. And yeah! Pound getting pounded by Oven outside while Pound's daughter baking pound cake in an oven.


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    How many times has Luffy gone down this arc? Reading the chapters it doesn't really feel bothersome, but it feels like the spoilers have mentioned that often.

    Also, how come no character suggested Aladine or Praline being the culprit? One being a guard under water(?), while the other is a sibling (to Mont' at least)?

    Edit: Interesting how Praline kept her singing ability secret if that's the case. Pudding's personality disorder (third eye to some?), Katakuri's mouth. I wonder what secrets other Charlotte members are hiding from others close to them.

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    This was a great chapter quite indeed! I enjoyed Luffy pummeling Katakuri very much! ^^

    Plus, the closure to this chapter was great, as it was a perfect way to end it! :)

    Anyways, I can't wait to see the next chapter! :3


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    Quote Originally Posted by ralf21 View Post
    Am i the only one hoping that for once the crew's blind fate in Luffy will get dashed ? Now that i've read this chapter, i'm confident that no matter how Oda spins it, i won't enjoy a Luffy win against Katakuri. The story calls for his defeat at this point, otherwise just hand him the crown already if his every opponent will end up defeated by an asspull.
    Bah, i was hoping for better in spite of all the indications to the contrary.
    You're in a specialised forum, are you seriously even so dumb that you still have to ask whether you're the "only one"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmetal-lich View Post
    A meh chapter. Really kinda feels like filler to get us to the next big event in this arc.
    Funny, I actually liked it. It took me back to the time of Alabasta and the fight against Crocodile, if you know what I mean.
    It's been how long since then, 15 years?

    I'm not bothered that Katakuri has a weakness, as long as it is not used in a lame way. In fact, it's not even a weakness, but more of an explanation of how Katakuri's powers work.
    Luffy has NOT surpassed Katakuri's CoO, and is "back to square one", as it was appropriately said.

    Unless next week we see Luffy asking the mirrors to mock Katakuri (please Oda, don't!), I can't complain.

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    so is Square mochi hands combining the properties of mochi and coa, like luffy combined elasticity of rubber and harness of coa in gear 4, or it-s another level of coa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelloss View Post
    Funny, I actually liked it. It took me back to the time of Alabasta and the fight against Crocodile, if you know what I mean.
    It's been how long since then, 15 years?

    I'm not bothered that Katakuri has a weakness, as long as it is not used in a lame way. In fact, it's not even a weakness, but more of an explanation of how Katakuri's powers work.
    Luffy has NOT surpassed Katakuri's CoO, and is "back to square one", as it was appropriately said.

    Unless next week we see Luffy asking the mirrors to mock Katakuri (please Oda, don't!), I can't complain.
    It all goes back to how you read this manga.

    There are two ways to read it: Week to Week and Binge reading.

    Chapters like these are fucking horrible to read week to week, but are great when read in a binge format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Get personal, I'm not sensitive.
    It wouldn't be new for creative or interesting for Luffy to lose to an opponent though, which you seem to want, eh? We've seen that with Crocodile, Lucci, Ceasar, Magellan, the entirety of Marineford. It's not new, but I don't think it happening the way you seem to intend and right now would bode well at all for a fight with Kaido. If Luffy is to power up and be forced to get stronger, it should be for a Yonkou, not a lieutenant. If he doesn't have a way to get around a guy on Katakuri's level, the timeskip was a waste.

    Plus, we're at the right place with this. Luffy knows his weakness; actually vulnerability is a better term. That he needs extreme amounts of composure to use his color of observation the way he needs to. And it's not as if we all haven't been wondering what's made Katakuri so special, or how he seems to appear like a Logia. We were given an answer to that question and understand that his main strength is also one of his biggest vulnerabilities. Would you rather Luffy just come back, stronger, awoken, and better with Haki? I suppose that's an answer, but to me it's not the right one.
    Creativity here isn't in the fact but in how it's presented, i wouldn't have minded him winning if it involved something other than exploiting a vulnerability tailored to fit, sure it's amusing, we all laughed at seeing Katakuri's true self, but i don't want Luffy's first solo victory against a top tier fighter to be because of a gag. As you said i'm not nearly as creative as Oda, so i couldn't offer you an alternative in this situation, but then again, he's the one who put himself there, so i'd expect him to solve the matter in a satisfactory manner.

    There was no mention of "extreme amounts" of composure, you need to be calm to use CoO that's all, it's nothing exclusive to Katakuri. As for his power i think it was made public a while ago that it was only changed from Logia because he isn't made of a natural element, so we didn't really learn much, we saw him move like a logia, create and shape matter like a logia, and go beyond that to control it at will. If anything his power is more OP than a logia.

    The thing is, Oda seems to want us to believe that Katakuri's only been doing so well thanks to his CoO when he's previously spent chapters showing us that he in fact outclasses Luffy in speed, power and technique. Now most people seem to think gear 4th makes Luffy a God (he clearly seems to think it himself), and that i don't buy, not after the struggle against Doflamingo or the lackluster performance against Cracker. Luffy shouldn't be able to win, and if the best Oda can think of is this, well I'll have to accept it and move on, but don't tell me it's creative or an interesting turn of events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    Is the King in the cover story the same King that showed up after Sugar's power was cancelled by Usopp?
    Not sure if anyone answered but no. I just checked. The hair, the beard, the crown its all different. Would have been an awesome catch though.
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