Pluton, Poseidon, and Uranus

[Razza]

I don't think it is Pluton or Poseidon, although it would be a great place to keep it. Yet no one, except for the King, seems to know much about it. That's the only thing that's stopping me giving an outright no, that and it is big.

[Kaze]

Shortly before the blueprints were burned by Franky, he flipped through them in front of Spandam. He negated any claims from the latter of them being fake by pointing out Lucci and Kaku's reactions to those blueprints being the real deal. Considering they went undercover as shipwrights for 5 years in order to seek them out points to at least Pluton being a ship since their response wouldn't make sense otherwise.

Throw in that the Gorousei still see the ancient weapons as a threat in a mostly ocean covered world, and it wouldn't be an unreasonable assumption that all the ancient weapons are ships, or at least sea-based in nature.

That is unless they were the cause of One Piece world's current state, but that's a whole other topic.

Right, But calling them "ancient weapons" makes me think that rather than being more of a ship that can navigate through the oceans, it's more of a WMD. Made for wiping out things that shouldn't exist.

Okay so let's say they ARE in fact sea-based/ships, What kind of design do you think we'll see? Something out of a Gundam manga? An old Victorian type ship? We've already had several different types of ships, some that are one piece Originals and others that are from stories of the real world. I'm just curious to see what style Oda will use and creating the actual thing.

Another thing is, Doesn't it seem like all the One piece original/unique boats Get bigger and bigger as the story progresses? lol

Maxim - A floating/flying ship that belongs to the awesomely powerful villain, Enel.
Thriller Bark - An Island boat of horrors. Home to The Shichibukai, Moria.
The Ark - A super massive ship that's the size of Fishman island. It belongs to Neptune and the country of fish-men/women.

Which leads me to wonder if Oda will continue the trend and make them even bigger, or if he'll suddenly decide to change it up.

[Crossword]

I imagined them as city (or possibly island)-sized boats myself, bristling with weaponry.

[DooMinator]

I imagined them as city (or possibly island)-sized boats myself, bristling with weaponry.

I do think the same way. If 10 ordinary battleships are able to destroy a whole island (buster call), imagine what a ship at the size of an island could do.

[D.aelthasaar]

Nope, noone has that I know of. Perhaps you would like to share some of your reasoning in suggesting this?

Nothing major, just that Poseidon is related to water, since the name of the Ocean deity.
Also, like in many actual World cultures, the same thing can have a different name in different places.
If you discover something you don't know about, you just give it your name, since you don't know the original.
I don't think Prehistoric people actually called the T-Rex...hm...T_Rex.
Just a stupid observation...and after 63 volume it's quite about time we see an Ancestral Weapon. :p

[Kaze]

Nothing major, just that Poseidon is related to water, since the name of the Ocean deity.
Also, like in many actual World cultures, the same thing can have a different name in different places.
If you discover something you don't know about, you just give it your name, since you don't know the original.
I don't think Prehistoric people actually called the T-Rex...hm...T_Rex.
Just a stupid observation...and after 63 volume it's quite about time we see an Ancestral Weapon. :p

Kind of a bad comparison when you think about it. I say this because people and dinosaurs never lived in the same time frame.

I believe the names have simple meanings, Poseidon God of the ocean, makes me think this is a ship that rules all oceans AND or is a weapon that can destroy any ship/object in the sea no matter what. Pluton, if we think about what we used on Japan back in WWII, ((Fat Man a Plutonium Implosion bomb)), I believe Pluton could possibly is a WMD. While both of them are threatening weapons, I believe that Pluton is more of an actual "Weapon" or "Bomb".

And I'll bet money that Vega Punk will know more about this and or is trying to re-create one of the Ancient Weapons.

[chaosceptor]

Considering Vegapunks genius enough to recreate DF powers into robots, what are the chances hes also able to read the poneglyphs

[King Cannon]

Considering Vegapunks genius enough to recreate DF powers into robots, what are the chances hes also able to read the poneglyphs

If he was able to read the poneglyphs, wouldn't the Gorousei try to kill him?

[Zack]

Considering Vegapunks genius enough to recreate DF powers into robots, what are the chances hes also able to read the poneglyphs

No. Because there was nobody there to teach him, and I doubt he has any interest in archaeology.

[Kaze]

No. Because there was nobody there to teach him, and I doubt he has any interest in archaeology.

while I agree, I bet he wants to create something just a s big or even better then the Ancient Weapons of the past. I mean there's no basis to this but I"m pretty sure if he can do what he did to kuma and to those df'S this is with in his capabilities.

[jxy007]

I think we will get to see the revival of those ancient weapons because otherwise there is no point in mentioning them. To revive those ancient weapons would mean the enemy has become so powerful that conventional ships and weapons won't cut it. The only enemies with that kind of power or potential are:
1. Blackbeard
2. World government

[Gizmo]

Thought it was appropriate to bring this up given the latest chapter.

Cool ideas from the spoiler thread of chapter 649 too.

spoilering just in case

Spoiler:

Facts:

Pluton is something that can be built. There's blueprints.
Shirahoshi is Poseidon.


Questions
Is the Gura Gura no Mi considered an Ancient Weapon?
What is Pluton exactly? Is it really a warship? Or is it something else?
Are the other ancient weapons considered "people" too?
Is Pluton really buried in Alabasta? Poseidon wasn't anywhere near Jaya/Skypiea. Was Crocodile wrong in his assumption? Or is there an ancient weapon really hidden there?

New thoughts. Old thread.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

The mermaid princess in the ancient history and also Shirahoshi nowadays are "Poseidon"...
also Tom was the keeper of the blueprints of Pluto, the second ancient weapon.

Could it be, that the fishman race was responsible in the ancient kingdom to protect/activate etc the ancient weapons.?
It could be that someone of the fishman race also possesses the third ancient weapon.
That could also be the reason why the WG never was able to find an ancient weapon, because they totally were going against fishman and so they never learned something about them..and by that never found out that they are the guardians of the ancient weapons.

[GetsugaZoro]

Cant the Pluton be Noah? or atleast an upgrade or something to Noah?(Franky would have noticed that though)

[kouch_lee]

Cant the Pluton be Noah? or atleast an upgrade or something to Noah?(Franky would have noticed that though)

I think that should be the key. Both Franky and Den should've noticed that Noah looks mighty similar to Pluton's blueprints.

I thought it was a great surprise that a person (well, in this case, a mermaid) can also be an Ancient Weapon. And I don't think if the Gura Gura no Mi would also qualify. As a big scale destruction it surely must be the most dangerous fruit, but I don't know. . .

Also, that means Weapons weren't CREATED, or at least, not all of them. Cause, you can't "create" a Mermaid. . .Although the fact that said mermaid is shown every x centuries, means there's something there? Just a legend? Maybe some. . ."genetics"?

This is all kinda confusing for now. All I know is that I really liked the twist, and I can't wait to know the whole Void Century history, implications, impact on the world, etc. . .

[Patta]

After exactly 6 years and ONE day this topic clears up.

[DemonX]

Read the first page, didn´t look at the date, and thought Ivotas was back :/

[dasia]

The mermaid princess in the ancient history and also Shirahoshi nowadays are "Poseidon"...
also Tom was the keeper of the blueprints of Pluto, the second ancient weapon.

Could it be, that the fishman race was responsible in the ancient kingdom to protect/activate etc the ancient weapons.?

Good point hadn't noticed that

[Md-Martin]

SHIRAHOSHI'S A CYBORG WEAPON!

Honestly I just got 10X more interested in the Void Century now.

[Baou Zakurga]

Luffy can hear the seakings cause their related to the ancient weapon/void century/poneglyphs.

If pluton can be built,can't wait to see what type of man-made warship it is/what it's powers are.like,if it's a nuke launching pad...lol